Can ministers remain if they they are no longer MPs?
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Just thought to ask, as I've no idea about this.
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theorically they can't coz they have lost the people endorsement. but heck who knows if the rules of the game change.Originally posted by lighthand:Just thought to ask, as I've no idea about this.
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they can keep because being a MP is not a pre-requisite for being a Minister.
remember Seet Ai Mee? the woman who mess around with education system and never got voted? She still kept her MOE position. -
hmmm.... but I thought to be a minister you must have the peoples endosement rite? I mean if you are going to be the head of a ministry, and be seen by the rest of the world it should be as an elected person rite?Originally posted by Ponders:they can keep because being a MP is not a pre-requisite for being a Minister.
remember Seet Ai Mee? the woman who mess around with education system and never got voted? She still kept her MOE position. -
No i dun, what she do ... Everything abt Education concerns me, Cos I am in IT.Originally posted by Ponders:remember Seet Ai Mee? the woman who mess around with education system and never got voted? She still kept her MOE position.
But then again, if u are a MP and a Minister, aren't u too busy, considering u still have a private portfolio ? -
The present system of electing MPs into parliament does not work as the elected MPs have consistently failed to solve people's problems - see the 20 major problems affecting Singapore as posted on page 11 of "Definition of True Democracy" thread.
Ministers after Dr. Goh Keng Swee and Hon Sui Sen have failed to implement new economic strategies to upgrade our economy from one that is basic industrialisation to third-wave model that is based on technology applications by the masses.
Because of this, Singapore cannot depend on elected MPs to fuel our future growth. We now need newer and more creative solutions from wider base of talents other than through elections.
The country will be more competitive if we have more people like Sim Wong Hoo, Bill Gate, Warren Buffet and Li Ka Shing. We should have a policy to induct such people as members of policy-making economic council who need not be ministers. Such council can incorporate the service of effective people like Alan Greenspan, who can be given specific role and more politically neutral functions to help run the country with competitive ideas in various economic think tanks which could push our economic competitiveness more holistically and oversee implementations of larger policies that affect economic competitiveness and entrepreneurship which the elected MPs are short of. -
Ministers are appointed from the Majority Party.They are MPs.
If an MP who is a Minister loses his seat, he is required to exit Parliament.The day that a Minister stays on after he has lost his legislative right to be in Parliament, it's contempt of Parliament.
A by-election need not be called.The MP can remain as a party member, his status as a legislator and MP is void. -
Hmm, my thinking is Minister is appointed by anybody whom the majority party think will does the job well. Therefore members of the opposition is eligible though majority party will not do this.
I haven't seen it done in Singapore but i dunno if it is because the law do not allow to be so or it just doesn't happen.
Because in other countries who has Westminster style parliament, their cabinet is from all of the shop. Since being a Minister and an MP is serving the different functions of a government. -
Don't worry, this was 1991. She is now some minster of state or something for community dev. not too sure.Originally posted by gd4u:No i dun, what she do ... Everything abt Education concerns me, Cos I am in IT.
But then again, if u are a MP and a Minister, aren't u too busy, considering u still have a private portfolio ?
What she did? she tried to turn primary school education upside down?
Ppl taking streaming twice, day-school program, etc etc. -
erm nt true actually. Ministers are appointed by the President on the advise of the PM and they are selected from among the MP's seated in parliament.
So to be a minister , u have to be an MP first -
Isn't that only for the bicameral Presidential system?Originally posted by Ponders:Hmm, my thinking is Minister is appointed by anybody whom the majority party think will does the job well. Therefore members of the opposition is eligible though majority party will not do this.
I haven't seen it done in Singapore but i dunno if it is because the law do not allow to be so or it just doesn't happen.
Because in other countries who has Westminster style parliament, their cabinet is from all of the shop. Since being a Minister and an MP is serving the different functions of a government.
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Correct. This is the Westminster system.Originally posted by zanza:erm nt true actually. Ministers are appointed by the President on the advise of the PM and they are selected from among the MP's seated in parliament.
So to be a minister , u have to be an MP first -
minister only the front pages only
every ministry still have Perm. Sect.
these then are the back bone of all different ministry
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Ok. So i am confused.
So to be a minister, MUST be MP. but it doesn't matter if the MP is of the same party right?
Because canada have ministers of different parties but they are MPs. -
Ok. So i am confused.
It doesn't matter, however , which party would volunterily elect members of other parties to be ministers ?
So to be a minister, MUST be MP. but it doesn't matter if the MP is of the same party right?
Because canada have ministers of different parties but they are MPs.
In the case of Canada , im unsure of what system its under, however, under the Westminister System, which singapore falls under, such a case only happens when a coalition government is formed.
That happens when the there is no clear majority in the votes and 1 party forms an agreement with the other party, they "pakat" to form the new gov.
When that happens , they choose a leader from 1 of the 2 parties and the ministers will be chosen from both parties. -
In a Coalition government, the Ministers are from a variety of parties that are elected to Parliament, therefore they are MPs, just that they are from different parties.
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K, understooded.
Zanza---> Canada is also westminster style. -
I am confused can someone finalize the ans
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In short and in SG context, all ministers and office bearers 'resign' from office for the duration of elections. Even the PM is technically NOT running the country during this period.
Should any of their constituents be contested and lost to opposition parties, that person can no longer hold office.
In short, if you're not an MP, you cannot qualify as a minister.