Thais burn pictures of LSH, Ho Ching and Merlion
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http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/18Mar2006_news14.php
I didn't know others see our Merlion as a Singapore image.. -
mus burn durians next
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How about throwing chicken rice
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The Thais are teaching the Singapore Government - aka the Ruling Political Party - some lessons concerning National Pride and the People's Right to Participate in the National Interests.
With the Singapore Government aka Ruling Political Party being insensitive to Singaporeans - ( who have long arrogantly ignore the protests towards their policies that affect us ) - is it not surprising that the same Singapore Elites will also arrogantly think that the Singapore Reserves can be used to buy up any assets that others treat as National Pride ?
It is time that those beyond the reach of the arbitrary rule of the POWER OF ONE, will teach some true lessons concerning National Pride - and not the self-serving lessons from purposeful designed propaganda to preserve the POWER OF ONE. -
Let's boycott Thailand rice.
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Maybe we should spit toward the thai embassy when we past it
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Originally posted by Atobe:
Get this straight, in business sense there is only one thing and that is PROFIT. Even if Temasek is not the one that buy Shin Corp, some other will do it, so why let ppl gain and not us instead?
The Thais are teaching the Singapore Government - aka the Ruling Political Party - some lessons concerning National Pride and the People's Right to Participate in the National Interests.
With the Singapore Government aka Ruling Political Party being insensitive to Singaporeans - ( who have long arrogantly ignore the protests towards their policies that affect us ) - is it not surprising that the same Singapore Elites will also arrogantly think that the Singapore Reserves can be used to buy up any assets that others treat as National Pride ?
It is time that those beyond the reach of the arbitrary rule of the POWER OF ONE, will teach some [b]true lessons concerning National Pride - and not the self-serving lessons from purposeful designed propaganda to preserve the POWER OF ONE.
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The thing now does not come that Temasek is state owned or whatever
If they cannot use peaceful means by not burning even SIA model planes, these opposition are not wanting peace -
these oppositions as i see it, are sly and evil persons.
they rejected elections??? this is the most democratic means, and why? because they know they cannot win? but why they cannot win? because only a small number of citizens are supporting them actually.
Further, they are destructive. -
The so-called 'democratic' protestors are actually bourgeoise scum not too dissimilar to the elitists in our own country. They purport to speak for democracy, when the man on the street's vote is actually for Thaksin.
Abhisit and the rest of his transvestite corps are a poignant example of what will happen when the elites in Singapore are finally toppled- they will cover themselves in fancy sounding rhetoric and pretend to be the protectors of the people and democracy, and attempt to regain power at the expense of us common folk.
Balls to him and his Oxford education I say. -
All these protesting against Thaksin are politically driven. The opposition politicians are just taking this opportunity to over throw him. Thaksin had been gaining power over the years of rule and he had won many supporters especially the farmers and villagers. If the opposition don't take this opportunity to bring him down, they won't have any chance later. It was reported that he still had about 70% of Thai support.
Too bad, S'pore's money driven Temasek became part of the Thai opposition's scape goat. -
Everyone in business knows that in business the only thing that counts is PROFIT.Originally posted by strikefreedom:Get this straight, in business sense there is only one thing and that is PROFIT. Even if Temasek is not the one that buy Shin Corp, some other will do it, so why let ppl gain and not us instead?
However, Temasek Holdings is not merely a business entity - it is also the National Icon as THE SINGAPORE Inc. - a business ambassador with a PREMIER STATUS that has no equal, its capital is the National Savings of SINGAPORE !
Temasek Holdings is part of the Singapore Government and perhaps it should conduct its business with more circumspect instead of 'gung-HO' profit drive at the expense of Singapore's Public Image - which now seems similar to the Ugly Americans of the 1970s.
Can Temasek's purchase of Shin Corp be profitable IF all the Thais decide to boycott the goods and services that are provided by Shin Corp after the take-over ?
What if this takeover by Temasek embitter the traditional good relations between Thailand and Singapore, causing diplomatic fallout and affecting other Singaporean-Thai businesses ?
Is there any profitability in this takeover ?
Do the Thais and their Opposition Parties have any case against Thaksin ?
Too much shady transactions and 'late' transfer of shareholdings that only occurred in such suspiciously co-incidental way - ( before the transaction has taken effect ) - gave the Thais and their Opposition sufficient cause to assert their right to voice the indignation towards their National Leader - who is supposed to be above contemptible transactions.
If you will note, such rights to assert their dismay towards the Government is not available to Singaporeans.
The 'gung-HO' actions by Temasek Holdings should have been tampered with caution, considering their recent experiences in attempting to take over National Assets of other countries - which caused a national ruckus - such as the Australian Telco - OPTUS, Britisch Cable & Wireless, USA Global Crossings.
Wealth is the parent of luxury and indolence, and poverty of meanness and viciousness, and both of discontent.
Plato (427 BC - 347 BC), The Republic
Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value. ~Albert Einstein -
Somehow i think we just provide Thaksin with his "election war chest"
Anyway it is very likely that the elite arent getting what they want out of Thaksin. Hmmm most likely that with corruption being curbed, the rich find that their ways of doing business can no longer work. They probably want to place a puppet where they can then exploit the poor and the many.
If you think about it. Those who can afford to stage a sit-in protest must be pretty free aka poor+jobless/rich+richer. The poor are most probably psychoed to blame Thaksin for everything. They dont have an idea that a new PM is not going to just open a budget and feed them for the rest of their lives. -
u sure can gain anotOriginally posted by strikefreedom:Get this straight, in business sense there is only one thing and that is PROFIT. Even if Temasek is not the one that buy Shin Corp, some other will do it, so why let ppl gain and not us instead?
yr father pay a lt of tax huh 
talk so big ...kns\\
or u last life fortune teller,so cocksure can earn money frm dis deal
so zhun,u can go buy 4D liao,no nid work le,,,,,,,or better ,go to casino gamble.... -
Originally posted by Atobe:
Strikefreedom has not heard of ethical and values-based economic models.
Everyone in business knows that in business the only thing that counts is PROFIT.
However, Temasek Holdings is not merely a business entity - it is also the National Icon as THE SINGAPORE Inc. - a business ambassador with a PREMIER STATUS that has no equal, its capital is the National Savings of SINGAPORE !
Temasek Holdings is part of the Singapore Government and perhaps it should conduct its business with more circumspect instead of 'gung-[b]HO' profit drive at the expense of Singapore's Public Image - which now seems similar to the Ugly Americans of the 1970s.
Can Temasek's purchase of Shin Corp be profitable IF all the Thais decide to boycott the goods and services that are provided by Shin Corp after the take-over ?
What if this takeover by Temasek embitter the traditional good relations between Thailand and Singapore, causing diplomatic fallout and affecting other Singaporean-Thai businesses ?
Is there any profitability in this takeover ?
Do the Thais and their Opposition Parties have any case against Thaksin ?
Too much shady transactions and 'late' transfer of shareholdings that only occurred in such suspiciously co-incidental way - ( before the transaction has taken effect ) - gave the Thais and their Opposition sufficient cause to assert their right to voice the indignation towards their National Leader - who is supposed to be above contemptible transactions.
If you will note, such rights to assert their dismay towards the Government is not available to Singaporeans.
The 'gung-HO' actions by Temasek Holdings should have been tampered with caution, considering their recent experiences in attempting to take over National Assets of other countries - which caused a national ruckus - such as the Australian Telco - OPTUS, Britisch Cable & Wireless, USA Global Crossings.
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There are firms who will not invest in China despite good business sense, because it clashes with their beliefs in human rights.
Furthermore, we think it's just profits and we EXPECT others to think in our frame of mind, how callously arrogant is that? Extremely.
And if they have read the interview with the leader of the rallies, they are anti Singapore Government , not anti Singaporeans.Two different things, and this separation of state and population is an idea many Singaporeans are unable to understand, due to 40 years of propaganda that the party is the state and the state is the people. Balls understand... -
What are you guys talking about??
Relax......
This protest and burning, how long will it last? How big is it anyway?
After a while everybody forgets about it. Dont worry. -
I agree with you that the party is not the state. However, in my opinion, your second assertion is completely false. People and the nation-state are inseparable. What is the concept of a nation state? It is a group of people of whom share the same national conciousness. In our case, Singaporeans share a common Singaporean identity.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Two different things, and this separation of state and population is an idea many Singaporeans are unable to understand, due to 40 years of propaganda that the party is the state and the state is the people.
Now I don't mind the Thais burning pictures of certain people (you know who), since those two are political figures and are therefore not embodiments of our country, but to burn our national icons is tantamount to spitting in the face of all Singaporeans- imagine if we burned a picture of King Bhumibol like the Cambodians did over the Angkor Wat incident back in 2003. I doubt that our embassy in Bangkok would remain standing should we foolishly try desecrating a revered national symbol of Thailand in that fashion.
Granted, I feel no sense of attachment to the fish-lion mutant that Abhisit and his harem of cross-dressers are currently roasting.
However, let's not forget their intent- they are destroying our national symbols (yes, I'm still proud of SIA despite its service or lack of it) simply to spite us. As distasteful as it sounds, we should rally behind Temasek on this matter- its high time that foreigners who think they can get away with pushing Singapore and Singaporeans around be brought to account.
NO to the Thai elitist opposition, support Thaksin!!! -
We are talking about Temasek "selling plastic flowers" to the Thais - but the Thais prefer their own real orchids that has its own unique fragrances.Originally posted by Li Ka Shing:What are you guys talking about??
Relax......
This protest and burning, how long will it last? How big is it anyway?
After a while everybody forgets about it. Dont worry.
Who needs foreign 'plastic flowers' when one has the real thing in one's possession ?
If the heat continues, those 'plastic flowers' will melt and it will be hard for anyone to trace the money that has been paid out - surely Li Ka Shing will be worried if those treasured 'plastic flowers' are lost for good ? -
My apologies for intervening with this response.Originally posted by Typhoon:I agree with you that the party is not the state. However, in my opinion, your second assertion is completely false. People and the nation-state are inseparable. What is the concept of a nation state? It is a group of people of whom share the same national conciousness. In our case, Singaporeans share a common Singaporean identity.
Yes, while your definition and understanding on the concept of nation state is laudable, is the your interpretation being held by those at the helm of Singapore ?
If the people and the nation-state are inseparable, surely the sanctity of the People's Rights are inseparable from that of the Nation-State too ?
Yet the propaganda to instill NATIONALISM is distorted for the self-serving purpose of preserving those in authority, by rallying Singaporean to such reactions as yours to defend the misguided policies of Temasek Holdings.
By the way, who is at the helm of Temasek Holdings ?
Since when did the 'gung-HO' personality at Temasek Holdings become a Political Figure ?
Why split your feelings about national icons ?
Now I don't mind the Thais burning pictures of certain people (you know who), since those two are political figures and are therefore not embodiments of our country, but to burn our national icons is tantamount to spitting in the face of all Singaporeans- imagine if we burned a picture of King Bhumibol like the Cambodians did over the Angkor Wat incident back in 2003. I doubt that our embassy in Bangkok would remain standing should we foolishly try desecrating a revered national symbol of Thailand in that fashion.
If in times of crisis, where is our sense of national pride and national values, when the destruction of images of inanimate objects take precedence over national figures ?
Those 'national symbols' happen to be linked to Temasek Holdings, which unfortunately is behaving like the UGLY AMERICANS of the 1970s, shoving and flaunting their wealth, as if everyone under the SUN can be bought with the Singapore Wealth.
Granted, I feel no sense of attachment to the fish-lion mutant that Abhisit and his harem of cross-dressers are currently roasting. However, let's not forget their intent- they are destroying our national symbols (yes, I'm still proud of SIA despite its service or lack of it) simply to spite us. As distasteful as it sounds, we should rally behind Temasek on this matter- its high time that foreigners who think they can get away with pushing Singapore and Singaporeans around be brought to account.
NO to the Thai elitist opposition, support Thaksin!!!
Incidentally, the Singapore Wealth has never been acknowledged by the Ruling Political Party aka the Singapore Government as belonging to SINGAPOREANS - whom the Ruling Elite owe no transparency or accountability even to the Elected Presidency or to Parliament.
The POWER OF ONE Rules Supreme. -
Burn pics of LHL and Ho Ching? How come didn't inform Singaporeans earlier...quite a number would have travelled there to join them
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very well said indeed ...Originally posted by LazerLordz:There are firms who will not invest in China despite good business sense, because it clashes with their beliefs in human rights.
Furthermore, we think it's just profits and we EXPECT others to think in our frame of mind, how callously arrogant is that? Extremely.
And if they have read the interview with the leader of the rallies, they are anti Singapore Government , not anti Singaporeans.Two different things, and this separation of state and population is an idea many Singaporeans are unable to understand, due to 40 years of propaganda that the party is the state and the state is the people. -
that is really funnyOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:Burn pics of LHL and Ho Ching? How come didn't inform Singaporeans earlier...quite a number would have travelled there to join them -
I wouldn't take sides in Thai politics.Originally posted by Typhoon:I agree with you that the party is not the state. However, in my opinion, your second assertion is completely false. People and the nation-state are inseparable. What is the concept of a nation state? It is a group of people of whom share the same national conciousness. In our case, Singaporeans share a common Singaporean identity.
Now I don't mind the Thais burning pictures of certain people (you know who), since those two are political figures and are therefore not embodiments of our country, but to burn our national icons is tantamount to spitting in the face of all Singaporeans- imagine if we burned a picture of King Bhumibol like the Cambodians did over the Angkor Wat incident back in 2003. I doubt that our embassy in Bangkok would remain standing should we foolishly try desecrating a revered national symbol of Thailand in that fashion.
Granted, I feel no sense of attachment to the fish-lion mutant that Abhisit and his harem of cross-dressers are currently roasting. However, let's not forget their intent- they are destroying our national symbols (yes, I'm still proud of SIA despite its service or lack of it) simply to spite us. As distasteful as it sounds, we should rally behind Temasek on this matter- its high time that foreigners who think they can get away with pushing Singapore and Singaporeans around be brought to account.
NO to the Thai elitist opposition, support Thaksin!!!
But you're right, attacking our icons is tantamount to an insult. -
we can kiss our $3billion investment in Shin Corp goodbye. Once you have a company that is tainted politically; its market value gradually starts to erode. So who is going to be responsible for the eventual singapore tax payers loss on the investment?
From the outset, any smart investment banker would have seen right through the potential political fallout as the original owners of Shin Corp were closed linked politically. For example for Thaksin to push the level of foreign ownership up overnight, prior to the sale, would have been a clear sign that the potential of a Thai political fallout was high from the start. -
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