Is PAP Gov dishonest? (the cigarette storyÂ…)
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Is PAP Gov dishonest? (the cigarette storyÂ…)
- contrary to the original purpose of the GRC concept.- (The GRC concept works best when 1 minority candidate participates as part of a 3 or 4 membered team).- i.e. at least 25% minority representation.
- Raising the stakes – having 5 or more memb GRCs = theory that: selling 20 stick cig packs only in SG instead of 10stx pks will deprive young experimenters by making cigs unaffordable. (current law)
“*12 Number of cigarettes in package “ (http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_retrieve.pl?&actno=Reved-309&date=latest&method=part ) "prescribed number of cigarettes" means — (a) 20 cigarettes, ……
BUT PAP used this same packaging theory to ALSO disadvantage the opposition bc they know tt the opposition are mostly small groups- not big, rich ‘behemoth’ PAP players…
So like cigarettesÂ… GRC has made elections a commodity --- ill-accessible to the common man.
PAP- All the ideas to make us
Pay And PayÂ….
Until we go extinctÂ… (baby rate so low [last3 in 2005 survey of 226 countries]- 4yr NS in 17 yrs time!- http://info.channelnewsasia.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=24175 )
SighÂ…..
Also : tying upgrading to PAP votes is criminal ‘CBT’…
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=183968- HDB should be an impartial body bc it uses national funds tt are contributed to by everybodyÂ… we are SingaporeÂ… one familyÂ… not PAP supporters vs. Opposition supportersÂ… all work for the good of SGÂ….. So all should have EQUAL access based on necessity to use national funds.
SighÂ… -
Originally posted by bic_cherry:Is PAP Gov dishonest? (the cigarette storyÂ…)
- contrary to the original purpose of the GRC concept.- (The GRC concept works best when 1 minority candidate participates as part of a 3 or 4 membered team).- i.e. at least 25% minority representation.
- Raising the stakes – having 5 or more memb GRCs = theory that: selling 20 stick cig packs only in SG instead of 10stx pks will deprive young experimenters by making cigs unaffordable. (current law)
“*12 Number of cigarettes in package “ (http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/non_version/cgi-bin/cgi_retrieve.pl?&actno=Reved-309&date=latest&method=part ) "prescribed number of cigarettes" means — (a) 20 cigarettes, ……
BUT PAP used this same packaging theory to ALSO disadvantage the opposition bc they know tt the opposition are mostly small groups- not big, rich ‘behemoth’ PAP players…
So like cigarettesÂ… GRC has made elections a commodity --- ill-accessible to the common man.
PAP- All the ideas to make us
Pay And PayÂ….
Until we go extinctÂ… (baby rate so low [last3 in 2005 survey of 226 countries]- 4yr NS in 17 yrs time!- http://info.channelnewsasia.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=24175 )
SighÂ…..
Also : tying upgrading to PAP votes is criminal ‘CBT’…
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=183968- HDB should be an impartial body bc it uses national funds tt are contributed to by everybodyÂ… we are SingaporeÂ… one familyÂ… not PAP supporters vs. Opposition supportersÂ… all work for the good of SGÂ….. So all should have EQUAL access based on necessity to use national funds.
SighÂ…
A Big Yes From Me ! Just by looking at how NKF SAGA being gone silence !
We should not talk about issues that will back fire, such as "COE, PARF, CIGARETTE, GRC, OPPOSITION, HDB UP-GRADING...etc..." because they're are too good to tell our Singaporean's that it is for our own good by good facts.
Let's narrow down to what that the Ministers had promised and make our clarifications further.. Persistence to get an satisfy answer until our peoples knows that who is the bad and who is the Ugly.
Scandals Exposure can only bring the Bad Leaders down, G.Bush will not help us because there is'nt any oil field in Singapore.
Can we have more leads to lift up all the covers ? Please help........ -
If you followed the media and press report, you will realised that the focus is on the changing of leaders and the upcoming candidates.
All is written on what they have "done" and yak yak yak.
But, throughout the two months of happy hand-shaking, not a single candidate dare to tackle the real problem of the people - HIGH LEVEL OF COSTING but instead focusing on the minute issue of wiping out the Opposition.
The ruling party is more keen of playing their cat and mouse game assuming by giving the "progress package" that the people will be happy.
It was funny that when the CPF issue was brought up during the dedate with the PM, it was flagged down immediately by a lackey within the audience without PM answering the query.
The debate is basically a wayang and did not address any real issues but just gave a show on the "openess" of the PM. -
Higher cost of living or is it because expectations of Singaporeans have risen?
30 years ago, when your child has a fever and cough, you go to the Chinese provision shop an buy some herbs, at most some antelope horn scrappings if you can afford it. Now, you rush to see a specialist.
30 years ago, to get from City Hall to Pasir Ris, you take a long, slow bus to the Tampinese area and share with 5 other passengers in a small volkswagen run by illegal taxi operators for the last leg of the journey. Now we get there cheaper in air-conditioned comfort but we still complain about the MRT train.
30 years ago, we live in crowded zinc-roofed buildings, draw water from a well and stare at the fishes below as we do our business over a river. Now we live in flats that are more spacious than our wealthier neighbours in Hong Kong.
Yes, costs have risen...but I dare say our expectations have risen much faster... -
all i can say to this is expectations change with time and it is very reasonable and expect.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Higher cost of living or is it because expectations of Singaporeans have risen?
30 years ago, when your child has a fever and cough, you go to the Chinese provision shop an buy some herbs, at most some antelope horn scrappings if you can afford it. Now, you rush to see a specialist.
30 years ago, to get from City Hall to Pasir Ris, you take a long, slow bus to the Tampinese area and share with 5 other passengers in a small volkswagen run by illegal taxi operators for the last leg of the journey. Now we get there cheaper in air-conditioned comfort but we still complain about the MRT train.
30 years ago, we live in crowded zinc-roofed buildings, draw water from a well and stare at the fishes below as we do our business over a river. Now we live in flats that are more spacious than our wealthier neighbours in Hong Kong.
Yes, costs have risen...but I dare say our expectations have risen much faster...
i'll put to you a more extreme example why not we compare your 30 years ago with some more years back of ppple living in caves?? -
I feel its actually still the same just that peoples expectation rise.
Like he said. Sick = specialist.
and whats not. Rather than the rate of living actually rising i feel it is the WAY of living that people try to achieve. They earn 50$ they try to live like they earn 51$ then they blame the govt saying the standard of living is high.
I have a friend whos dad earns 2k a month. he has 3 siblings. They are surviving better than another friend of mine whose dad is a manager in a big firm earning a 5 digit salary every month.Why ? cause of their way of life.
you see eventually its not "standard of living rising" though yes it definitely has risen over the years. But which country hasn't ?
And you notice that the ones complaining are probably the general singaporeans who aren't that well to do. As the saying goes, the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. The more the poor tries to act rich, the poorer they get. -
Please be more reasonable to those who are been refered by GP to see Specialist.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Higher cost of living or is it because expectations of Singaporeans have risen?
30 years ago, when your child has a fever and cough, you go to the Chinese provision shop an buy some herbs, at most some antelope horn scrappings if you can afford it. Now, you rush to see a specialist.
30 years ago, to get from City Hall to Pasir Ris, you take a long, slow bus to the Tampinese area and share with 5 other passengers in a small volkswagen run by illegal taxi operators for the last leg of the journey. Now we get there cheaper in air-conditioned comfort but we still complain about the MRT train.
30 years ago, we live in crowded zinc-roofed buildings, draw water from a well and stare at the fishes below as we do our business over a river. Now we live in flats that are more spacious than our wealthier neighbours in Hong Kong.
Yes, costs have risen...but I dare say our expectations have risen much faster...
To endure the pains, anxiety and consultation charges, can you kindly name items that Singaporean can do away to save more ? -
I read thru the paper Ikea's GM still prefer to drive his Hyundai Accent than to drive in Merc or BMW to work. Seriously it boiled down our pursuit ofOriginally posted by Rynax:I feel its actually still the same just that peoples expectation rise.
Like he said. Sick = specialist.
and whats not. Rather than the rate of living actually rising i feel it is the WAY of living that people try to achieve. They earn 50$ they try to live like they earn 51$ then they blame the govt saying the standard of living is high.
I have a friend whos dad earns 2k a month. he has 3 siblings. They are surviving better than another friend of mine whose dad is a manager in a big firm earning a 5 digit salary every month.Why ? cause of their way of life.
you see eventually its not "standard of living rising" though yes it definitely has risen over the years. But which country hasn't ?
And you notice that the ones complaining are probably the general singaporeans who aren't that well to do. As the saying goes, the rich gets richer and the poor gets poorer. The more the poor tries to act rich, the poorer they get.
lifestyle. -
Dearest will4,Originally posted by will4:I read thru the paper Ikea's GM still prefer to drive his Hyundai Accent than to drive in Merc or BMW to work. Seriously it boiled down our pursuit of
lifestyle.
I'm touched and greeted my deepest respect to the Lady CEO for being practical in her lifestyle in this small City State of Singapore.
Let me remind you that many Singaporeans had sold their car and took public transport for the sake of Costs and Causes.
Let's us live within our means and solve our own problems, the saying goes "Jia Jia Yo Ben Nan Nain De Jing" is really true !
But never continue in using the pay if you don't care type of counter measures to deal with problems that might affect the peoples lifestyle, Business Impact and mis-undestandings.
Shall we try looking to work good and effective Campaigns to motivate our peoples of the consequences, rather not just leave it to the economic impact of supply and demands.
Need more of your advises, please............... -
Don't worry... The "IMPACTS" would COME LATER.... SOON after the ELECTION....Originally posted by SG,LauBaiXing:Dearest will4,
I'm touched and greeted my deepest respect to the Lady CEO for being practical in her lifestyle in this small City State of Singapore.
Let me remind you that many Singaporeans had sold their car and took public transport for the sake of Costs and Causes.
Let's us live within our means and solve our own problems, the saying goes "Jia Jia Yo Ben Nan Nain De Jing" is really true !
But never continue in using the pay if you don't care type of counter measures to deal with problems that might affect the peoples lifestyle, Business Impact and mis-undestandings.
Shall we try looking to work good and effective Campaigns to motivate our peoples of the consequences, rather not just leave it to the economic impact of supply and demands.
Need more of your advises, please...............
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EXPECTED...Originally posted by Medicated Oil:If you followed the media and press report, you will realised that the focus is on the changing of leaders and the upcoming candidates.
All is written on what they have "done" and yak yak yak.
But, throughout the two months of happy hand-shaking, not a single candidate dare to tackle the real problem of the people - HIGH LEVEL OF COSTING but instead focusing on the minute issue of wiping out the Opposition.
The ruling party is more keen of playing their cat and mouse game assuming by giving the "progress package" that the people will be happy.
It was funny that when the CPF issue was brought up during the dedate with the PM, it was flagged down immediately by a lackey within the audience without PM answering the query.
The debate is basically a wayang and did not address any real issues but just gave a show on the "openess" of the PM. -
I believe that the best way to judge the cost of living is to look into the purchasing power of a dollar compare to now and to then. There is also a need to remember that the inflation rate of money per year is higher than that of the safety interest rate of the bank. This means that the money kept in the bank is constantly depreciating along with the purchasing power. With pay being stagnant for most worker and the price of goods increasing it can be concluded that the cost of living have risen considerably. However whether they have enough to spend depends largely on the person lifestyle.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Higher cost of living or is it because expectations of Singaporeans have risen?
30 years ago, when your child has a fever and cough, you go to the Chinese provision shop an buy some herbs, at most some antelope horn scrappings if you can afford it. Now, you rush to see a specialist.
30 years ago, to get from City Hall to Pasir Ris, you take a long, slow bus to the Tampinese area and share with 5 other passengers in a small volkswagen run by illegal taxi operators for the last leg of the journey. Now we get there cheaper in air-conditioned comfort but we still complain about the MRT train.
30 years ago, we live in crowded zinc-roofed buildings, draw water from a well and stare at the fishes below as we do our business over a river. Now we live in flats that are more spacious than our wealthier neighbours in Hong Kong.
Yes, costs have risen...but I dare say our expectations have risen much faster... -
Alot of things happening recently dont make much sense to me - I am perplexed.
Why the need to time the "progress package" with the General Election?
Wouldnt it look better to announce the PP after the GE? That way, heartlanders would not be cynical about the PP, but right now they are mostly suspicious about this unexpected "windfall".
Another big puzzle - why is the Government giving away money, this is not their style!
Historically, our Government only takes and rarely part with their cash pile. They only give one-time token sums when need to pacify us during GST increase or some other tax increases.
Is something awful going to happen? Are heartlanders very angry with them. Just a guess. -
Your advise is like we are going to see lot's of Devil's soon after the GE.Originally posted by Devil1976:Don't worry... The "IMPACTS" would COME LATER.... SOON after the ELECTION....
My ding dong is now going to drop-off for such a scary future living here...... -
CNA forums i saw this:
"Well in my opinion NS enlistment age should be changed to 23 or 24 to allow young Singaporeans to pursue tertiary education locally or overseas & for some who managed a trade cert.,a chance to gain some work experiences before enlistment.With the changes it means that MINDEF will have a group of better trained enlistees,hence SAF vocational training period should be reduced drastically and at age 23 or 24,youngmen are more mature and have a better understanding of the real working environment,reducing the risk of serious accident.In fact,with this changes MINDEF may see more of the NSF signing on to a SAF career because they are placed in a vocation that's relevant to their course of study which are normally their interest as well.
So all we need is 3-months basic military training and 9 months vocational SAF unit attachment to utilise & sharpen thier knowledge & skill acquired from their study.
Last & not the least,reservist liability should also be reduced to 36,even Taiwan & S.Korea in much more riskier zones have their military liability up to around this age; a 12 years reservist liability is more than enough because at age 36,most are at the peak of their career and in a global economy,many are required to be posted overseas,under normal circumstances for long term overseas posting the exit permit is on going,ie approved every year,so it just like finishing his reservist liability at age 36,so why not make it accross the board to be fair to all NSF,otherwise it's those working locally serving a longer period of reservist than those posted overseas. "
the govt will not put the enlistment age to anything above 21 so that guys cant denounce citizenship and escape Ns... -
Hmm... I had MacDonald's for lunch yesterday.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Higher cost of living or is it because expectations of Singaporeans have risen?
30 years ago, when your child has a fever and cough, you go to the Chinese provision shop an buy some herbs, at most some antelope horn scrappings if you can afford it. Now, you rush to see a specialist.
30 years ago, to get from City Hall to Pasir Ris, you take a long, slow bus to the Tampinese area and share with 5 other passengers in a small volkswagen run by illegal taxi operators for the last leg of the journey. Now we get there cheaper in air-conditioned comfort but we still complain about the MRT train.
30 years ago, we live in crowded zinc-roofed buildings, draw water from a well and stare at the fishes below as we do our business over a river. Now we live in flats that are more spacious than our wealthier neighbours in Hong Kong.
Yes, costs have risen...but I dare say our expectations have risen much faster...
A pack of small fries used to cost me 50 cents about 15 years back. It cost me $1.50 now.
A MacDonald temp staff used to earn about $5 an hour. They are paid about $6.50 an hour now.
The average increment is about 3%-5% per annum. The average inflation is about 4%. The bank interest rate is about 2% and for the last 2 years, our CPF contribution has been reduce by 45.8%.
Our PM says it's better to loose money than and to keep the job during his last TV Meet-the-people. Are there no other ways to keep business cost down other than to take from the people? -
That reminds me... As much as I couldn't be bother (hate) politics... During the past years which I've grown... I just felt that 'emptiness', 'helpness' and 'despair'... Each time our ruling party wins over a zone...
TRULY, such DISAPPOINTMENT and SADNESS... -
its actually only $3 per hour now...i dunno bout the past...Originally posted by anonymouscoward:A MacDonald temp staff used to earn about $5 an hour. They are paid about $6.50 an hour now.