Latest Election Lawsuit
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Yeah, put that aside. The two individuals who commented on NKF, now that might be a better example.Originally posted by sbst275:That lawsuit, SPH also has it own agenda
Sounds like being a glorious quitter = not having to feel so embarassed everyday at what the chappies up there are doing.
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It's all hard reality of lifeOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Yeah, put that aside. The two individuals who commented on NKF, now that might be a better example.
Sounds like being a glorious quitter = not having to feel so embarassed everyday at what the chappies up there are doing.
The lower you are, the higher output you have to do... Yet you get nothing
As for the 2 indv, they should have taken photo of the plane trip seating arrangement
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Originally posted by sbst275:It's all hard reality of life
The lower you are, the higher output you have to do... Yet you get nothing
As for the 2 indv, they should have taken photo of the plane trip seating arrangement
let's all move to Perth, I know a good spot of real estate, great sunsets and a small fishing club nearby.
and they do have very stable satellite broadband internet Swee! -
u might as well say, lets pool our money, buy over an island somewhere and name it neo-Singapore.Originally posted by LazerLordz:
let's all move to Perth, I know a good spot of real estate, great sunsets and a small fishing club nearby.
and they do have very stable satellite broadband internet Swee! -
Christmas Island!!Originally posted by Ito_^:u might as well say, lets pool our money, buy over an island somewhere and name it neo-Singapore. Hey, we need to get a large investor to build Club Med and a oceanographic institute though -
Dr Chee if not wrog, somebody claimed he served NS a policeman. If it is true, being a cop should already knew how to collect evidence.Originally posted by BillyBong:Proof of claim.
It is the onus of the defendant to prove that the statements bear merit with hard evidence. Word of mouth and 'gut feeling' do not qualify. Likewise presumed general sentiments of the public.
It seems Dr Chee does not learn from his mistakes. Time and again, all he succeeds in doing is getting himself back into jail with his wishy-washy antics. His latest action is threatening to derail SDP's planned campaign.
It's a wonder Ling How Doong is desperately claiming that there is no in-fighting within the party.
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He's ASP(NS).Originally posted by will4:Dr Chee if not wrog, somebody claimed he served NS a policeman. If it is true, being a cop should already knew how to collect evidence. 
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Apologies AND damages...you read carefully...another half a million maybe? Last time it was half a million, this time could well double the amount because he had breached his previous undertaking. How come CSJ has so much money to give away?Originally posted by sgdiehard:there is no law suit yet, just demand for apologies or else.
This is a good way to earn money....maybe CSJ should defame me in future for a change. I charge half price...quarter if a million enough already -
There will be more to come after the GE. This has been the norm for many GE. What happen to Francis Seow, Tang Liang Hong, Jeya, CSJ. Those on the run are still on the run, those served their terms are now bankrupt.
Btw, you think after the apologies the case is over? It's just the first step to prove that you admit to defamation. The next step is the amount of damage to be paid... -
Originally posted by sbst275:12 letters have been served
10 to the SDP excecutive council members
1 to SDP itself
1 to the mag printer owner If all the information is true, it will be very interesting... Poor mag printer. 
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The thing is, in 2001, if he had not retracted back the apology, things could have been diff... But we can't go backOriginally posted by Archie_boy:There will be more to come after the GE. This has been the norm for many GE. What happen to Francis Seow, Tang Liang Hong, Jeya, CSJ. Those on the run are still on the run, those served their terms are now bankrupt.
Btw, you think after the apologies the case is over? It's just the first step to prove that you admit to defamation. The next step is the amount of damage to be paid...
Also, that 'peanuts', is really damaging.. It's not a PAP party member that said it -
if Dr Chee kana sued again. But he cant pay deframation cost as he is already a bankrupt.. means they will jailed him this time?
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This nation has too liberal an interpretation of the meaning of defamation. Politics is a dirty business, you can't take the heat, don't play and don't delude yourself into thinking you can co-opt politics and make it clean.
Asswipes.There's nothing more shameful than politicians who can't take the heat and throw lawsuits after lawsuits.I've had it with how this place is run, and frankly, if one day all the talented people leave and society struggles, they jolly deserved their pickings.
Whoever thinks this climate will allow Singapore to survive and flourish for the next 50 years is smoking grade A marifarkingjuana.
Rather be the honest quitter any day, politics here just makes me throw up more than a pregnant mother with sextuplets. I give up. -
I wonder how many of the citizens out there will vote for them in the coming election
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I like to comment his rank is equivalent to SAF Major but he behaved like a hooligan. What kind of leadership is he showing?Originally posted by LazerLordz:He's ASP(NS). -
Whether something said is defamatory or not depends on the listeners. The court of judges should perceive the effect of statements alleged to be defamatory on the common man in the street.
A panel of jury will be better able to decide whether something said is in fact defamatory than the judges as such statements are more often than not questions of facts rather than laws.
It is sad that jury system has been abolished and today we have left every issue of fact and law completely to the judges.
Thus, in our defamation cases, we have to depend solely on the judges for interpretations whether statements made are defamatory.
Judges' interpretations may or may not reflect true intent and purpose of the words as used and heard by the public layman who might regard certain things said as either jokes or humour or public knowledge and not any deliberate allegations. For example when something has been published in the newspapers very often and someone just utter the same matters should any one regard such published knowledge as defamation caused by the person alleged to make the statements.
Jury might interpret too what constitute justifications or duties of the state to be accountable and forthcoming with criticism of policies which went wrong.
So we need to look at our defamation laws and the method of trial in our courts for such cases so that the future trials will take all these facts into account and not completely trust the facts and interpretation of facts to the judges who might interpret facts on his own views rather than impact on ordinary man in the street.
Defamation or lowering of opinion of the party said to be defamed should not be left to the judges but through perception by a group of ordinary men in the street who hear those words claimed to be defamatory. -
However, if you look at other Oppositions, they dont do that!!Originally posted by LazerLordz:This nation has too liberal an interpretation of the meaning of defamation. Politics is a dirty business, you can't take the heat, don't play and don't delude yourself into thinking you can co-opt politics and make it clean.
Asswipes.There's nothing more shameful than politicians who can't take the heat and throw lawsuits after lawsuits.I've had it with how this place is run, and frankly, if one day all the talented people leave and society struggles, they jolly deserved their pickings.
Whoever thinks this climate will allow Singapore to survive and flourish for the next 50 years is smoking grade A marifarkingjuana.
Rather be the honest quitter any day, politics here just makes me throw p more than a pregnant mother with sextuplets. I give up.
Dont you think it is not very nice to spread rumours about yourself. Also imagine the Ruling party doing that to you. You will not be happy as well.
I admire Dr. Chee courage but he do it at in a open way. -
Chee was called a gangster and a liar a few years back. So the river flows both ways.Originally posted by antoh:However, if you look at other Oppositions, they dont do that!!
Dont you think it is not very nice to spread rumours about yourself. Also imagine the Ruling party doing that to you. You will not be happy as well.
I admire Dr. Chee courage but he do it at in a open way.
I think although he should be more restrained, get himself into Parliament, then start his issue-raising, the fact that defamation in this country seems to be too freely used, is not a good sign. -
But if he can learn from CST or LTK to look at bread and butter issue more 1st, he could gain more supportOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Chee was called a gangster and a liar a few years back. So the river flows both ways.
I think although he should be more restrained, get himself into Parliament, then start his issue-raising, the fact that defamation in this country seems to be too freely used, is not a good sign.
But sometimes, he himself is asking for trouble... The peanuts wasn't from the mouth of a PAP member, yet he go make fun -
Well, in politics, you need to have your activists too.This is a sign of growth of civil political space, and though he seems not to be attracting a lot of support, it's a start.Originally posted by sbst275:But if he can learn from CST or LTK to look at bread and butter issue more 1st, he could gain more support
But sometimes, he himself is asking for trouble... The peanuts wasn't from the mouth of a PAP member, yet he go make fun
Time will tell if he made his choice well.
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Maybe you should try Lancelin instead. It is a lovely fishing and diving spot just over 100 km north of Perth.Originally posted by LazerLordz:
let's all move to Perth, I know a good spot of real estate, great sunsets and a small fishing club nearby.
and they do have very stable satellite broadband internet Swee! -
See howOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Well, in politics, you need to have your activists too.This is a sign of growth of civil political space, and though he seems not to be attracting a lot of support, it's a start.
Time will tell if he made his choice well.
But if the case goes on, SDP might just be destroyed under his hands... -
A lot of NKF donors will not be happy with the latest case. It might turn the tide against PAP.Originally posted by sbst275:See how
But if the case goes on, SDP might just be destroyed under his hands...
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But it's neither right to go make personal insultsOriginally posted by iveco:A lot of NKF donors will not be happy with the latest case. It might turn the tide against PAP.
Also, he can be dealt by the high court if he goes overbored -
Yah, why sue?Can't debate?PM & MM have stated their stand.So pls debate!Originally posted by ShutterBug:Every election, opposition will get sued for something they say.
Why sue? I mean, if SDP made such remarks, then surely they have some way to prove what they say is true! Otherwise, why don't PAP prove them wrong instead of just sueing?
But if SDP remarked without any subtsantial evidence, then they are just plain foolish. How can they do battle with PAP when all they have are sticks and stones, while PAP weilds a mighty canon? OBLIERATION of the opposition will result.
From past experiece,it look like SDP sure lose.
Why sue?The want to give donation to charity