MM Lee owes Singaporeans an apology
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How true.Originally posted by freakass:What's with Singaporeans these days? I am not saying that we should listen blindly to the PAP, but are you sure that the opposition can govern Singapore better than PAP?
DO NOT VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT THE PAP DOES NOT DO THINGS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO BECAUSE THE OPPOSITION MAY NOT BE UP TO YOUR STANDARD TOO. ONLY VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION IF YOU THINK THEY CAN DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THE PAP.
I realise Singaporeans these days really like to complain a lot... I think this is the result of higher levels of education... Youngsters these days think and argue too much... It is a good sign but I think it's used in the wrong manner... Basically I see that people argue for the sake of arguing.. The whole point being that they do not want to lose the argument... Just take the LKY conversation on TV as an example... Those people have gone over the line lah seriously... They want LKY to respect the youngsters but are they respecting him? Think about it...
Only the foolish would vote for the opposition just because they are irked by the arrogance and complacent attitude of the Ruling party.
They should be voted for the right reasons and not because of some emotional tandrem.
And why should you even talk about whether the opposition can govern SG better than the Ruling Party? The issue is already moot.
The discussion should be whether they are capable of running a GRC town council better than the Ruling Party. Have you been so sidewinded by the speeches and rhetorics of the Ruling Party that you bought into their story of the opposition incapable of running SG?
They are using macro-issues to circumvent the multiple micro-issues that the opposition have raised, all with merit; that are now being totally sidestepped and hoodwinked by the Ruling Party.
And ask yourself this: with the quality of candidates that the WP has presented, do you for a moment doubt that it is INDEED POSSIBLE for them to run a GRC town council well if not better than the Ruling Party?
Why do you think the Ruling Party are so quick and sharp in their attacks, so eager to target individuals and not really addressing the policies and alternatives raised by opposition candidates?
For the first time in 3 elections, they are genuinely afraid of the opposition. Led by the WP, there is no doubt that they pose a serious threat. -
Originally posted by BillyBong:
i say liao..they are GODs...path of RIGHTEOUSNESS is thru THEM.....must built STATUES and Temple for them......
How true.
Only the foolish would vote for the opposition just because they are irked by the arrogance and complacent attitude of the Ruling party.
They should be voted for the right reasons and not because of some emotional tandrem.
And why should you even talk about whether the opposition can govern SG better than the Ruling Party? The issue is already moot.
The discussion should be whether they are [b]capable of running a GRC town council better than the Ruling Party. Have you been so sidewinded by the speeches and rhetorics of the Ruling Party that you bought into their story of the opposition incapable of running SG?
They are using macro-issues to circumvent the multiple micro-issues that the opposition have raised, all with merit; that are now being totally sidestepped and hoodwinked by the Ruling Party.
And ask yourself this: with the quality of candidates that the WP has presented, do you for a moment doubt that it is INDEED POSSIBLE for them to run a GRC town council well if not better than the Ruling Party?
Why do you think the Ruling Party are so quick and sharp in their attacks, so eager to target individuals and not really addressing the policies and alternatives raised by opposition candidates?
For the first time in 3 elections, they are genuinely afraid of the opposition. Led by the WP, there is no doubt that they pose a serious threat.
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At this rate, CENTURION MBT is going to have his hands full locking down threadsOriginally posted by duotiga83:i say liao..they are GODs...path of RIGHTEOUSNESS is thru THEM.....must built STATUES and Temple for them...... 
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ami not lieing?Originally posted by BillyBong:At this rate, CENTURION MBT is going to have his hands full locking down threads they are the BEST what...they are the ABSOULTE...so nothing can HINDER them
we are peanuts to them.......so do they listen to us carefully?
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freakass, let's just not feed the narrow-minded anymore. Perhaps, some of these people just have to learn things the hard way. Vote for the opposition if you so think they can be more capable than the PAP because you have the right. I am thankful that the opposition just does not have the substance, but if they do, I wish all of us good luck because we certainly would need a lot of it.Originally posted by freakass:What's with Singaporeans these days? I am not saying that we should listen blindly to the PAP, but are you sure that the opposition can govern Singapore better than PAP?
DO NOT VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK THAT THE PAP DOES NOT DO THINGS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO BECAUSE THE OPPOSITION MAY NOT BE UP TO YOUR STANDARD TOO. ONLY VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION IF YOU THINK THEY CAN DO THE JOB BETTER THAN THE PAP.
I realise Singaporeans these days really like to complain a lot... I think this is the result of higher levels of education... Youngsters these days think and argue too much... It is a good sign but I think it's used in the wrong manner... Basically I see that people argue for the sake of arguing.. The whole point being that they do not want to lose the argument... Just take the LKY conversation on TV as an example... Those people have gone over the line lah seriously... They want LKY to respect the youngsters but are they respecting him? Think about it... -
listen ass kisser. singapore was not a success solely because of Mr LKY. There were many other founding fathers. What about Toh Chin Chye. Mr Jeyaratnam etc. We owe nothing to Mr. Lee. Remember he is paid a million dollars a year. Its yours and my money. He doesnt work for free!Originally posted by manlovedoggie:That's MR LEE KWAN YEW to you all guys here! Stop disrespecting him here by making senseless remarks here!
Since when does the MM owes any S'poreans anything for that matter?
If he was not around, S'pore will not have anything at all.
Show some respect to the FATHER OF S'pore!!!
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This is the typical Lee after the 1970s..
Here is what really happened at the Foreign Correspondents' Association dinner (OBVIOUSLY NOT REPORTED IN THE ST)
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SINGAPORE (AFP) - Singapore's iron-willed founding father Lee Kuan Yew has said he will not allow the foreign media to tell his country what to do on domestic issues.
Speaking to the Foreign Correspondents Association late Friday, Lee said the tiny but affluent Southeast Asian city-state cannot fully emulate the political practices of other developed western countries.
"We're not going to allow foreign correspondents or foreign journalists or anybody else to tell us what to do," the 82-year-old former prime minister said.
"There are very few things that I do not know about Singapore politics and there are very few things that you can tell me or any foreign correspondent can tell me about Singapore," said Lee, who has successfully sued several media critics for libel.
Lee, whose son Lee Hsien Loong is the current prime minister, is admired worldwide for transforming Singapore into one of Asia's wealthiest nations in just over 30 years despite its lack of natural resources and limited manpower.
However, the government has also been criticised by human rights groups and the media for clamping down on dissent as well as curbing press freedom and other political rights.
Only one party, the People's Action Party (PAP), has ruled the country since independence in 1965. Opposition leaders have been crippled by financially draining defamation suits filed by PAP stalwarts.
But Lee, who holds the advisory post of minister mentor in his son's cabinet, said the system worked well for Singapore, and dismissed opposition candidates contesting the May 6 general elections for having no credible alternative program.
During the question-and-answer session, Lee also dressed down a Singaporean journalist working for a foreign news agency who had asked why it was difficult to get data on the salaries of cabinet ministers.
"Oh come off it, it's in the budget," Lee snapped. "I'll have none of it. You cannot pay the ministers without a proper budget," he said.
"I will not put up with any slur that we are trying to hide our salaries. It's rubbish, plain rubbish and as a Singaporean you ought to know that."
Raising his voice, Lee cut off the journalist in the middle of a follow up question.
"I'm telling you the reply before you finish the question, so please consider carefully what else you're going to make, what other slurs you're going to imply. You're not going to intimidate me, ever."
Lee told another Singaporean foreign correspondent she was "talking like an ignorant voter" when she asked why constituencies who had voted for the opposition are left out in government improvement projects. -
have a feeling LKY probably had to much to drink that night or either he is on some anti aging drugs that help him hallucinate that he is still in 1965. Wake up Mr Lee.! This is not 1965 and the world does not revolve around you and your son!Originally posted by Pronewbie:This is the typical Lee after the 1970s..
Here is what really happened at the Foreign Correspondents' Association dinner (OBVIOUSLY NOT REPORTED IN THE ST)
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SINGAPORE (AFP) - Singapore's iron-willed founding father Lee Kuan Yew has said he will not allow the foreign media to tell his country what to do on domestic issues.
Speaking to the Foreign Correspondents Association late Friday, Lee said the tiny but affluent Southeast Asian city-state cannot fully emulate the political practices of other developed western countries.
"We're not going to allow foreign correspondents or foreign journalists or anybody else to tell us what to do," the 82-year-old former prime minister said.
"There are very few things that I do not know about Singapore politics and there are very few things that you can tell me or any foreign correspondent can tell me about Singapore," said Lee, who has successfully sued several media critics for libel.
Lee, whose son Lee Hsien Loong is the current prime minister, is admired worldwide for transforming Singapore into one of Asia's wealthiest nations in just over 30 years despite its lack of natural resources and limited manpower.
However, the government has also been criticised by human rights groups and the media for clamping down on dissent as well as curbing press freedom and other political rights.
Only one party, the People's Action Party (PAP), has ruled the country since independence in 1965. Opposition leaders have been crippled by financially draining defamation suits filed by PAP stalwarts.
But Lee, who holds the advisory post of minister mentor in his son's cabinet, said the system worked well for Singapore, and dismissed opposition candidates contesting the May 6 general elections for having no credible alternative program.
During the question-and-answer session, Lee also dressed down a Singaporean journalist working for a foreign news agency who had asked why it was difficult to get data on the salaries of cabinet ministers.
"Oh come off it, it's in the budget," Lee snapped. "I'll have none of it. You cannot pay the ministers without a proper budget," he said.
"I will not put up with any slur that we are trying to hide our salaries. It's rubbish, plain rubbish and as a Singaporean you ought to know that."
Raising his voice, Lee cut off the journalist in the middle of a follow up question.
"I'm telling you the reply before you finish the question, so please consider carefully what else you're going to make, what other slurs you're going to imply. You're not going to intimidate me, ever."
Lee told another Singaporean foreign correspondent she was "talking like an ignorant voter" when she asked why constituencies who had voted for the opposition are left out in government improvement projects.
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His POVOriginally posted by gill_hfc:have a feeling LKY probably had to much to drink that night or either he is on some anti aging drugs that help him hallucinate that he is still in 1965. Wake up Mr Lee.! This is not 1965 and the world does not revolve around you and your son! 
Revolves ard him and his son -
Before you guys take in the entire story, please keep in mind the power of the pen... and also the writing and persuasive skills of a reporter... The same piece of news can be written to two extremes by two different reporters... Im not saying tht there's no truth in this article, but sometimes you have to give tough replies to the reporters because they were sent there to shoot you down.... if tht's the case, there's no need to be nice to them anyway...Originally posted by Pronewbie:This is the typical Lee after the 1970s..
Here is what really happened at the Foreign Correspondents' Association dinner (OBVIOUSLY NOT REPORTED IN THE ST)
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SINGAPORE (AFP) - Singapore's iron-willed founding father Lee Kuan Yew has said he will not allow the foreign media to tell his country what to do on domestic issues.
Speaking to the Foreign Correspondents Association late Friday, Lee said the tiny but affluent Southeast Asian city-state cannot fully emulate the political practices of other developed western countries.
"We're not going to allow foreign correspondents or foreign journalists or anybody else to tell us what to do," the 82-year-old former prime minister said.
"There are very few things that I do not know about Singapore politics and there are very few things that you can tell me or any foreign correspondent can tell me about Singapore," said Lee, who has successfully sued several media critics for libel.
Lee, whose son Lee Hsien Loong is the current prime minister, is admired worldwide for transforming Singapore into one of Asia's wealthiest nations in just over 30 years despite its lack of natural resources and limited manpower.
However, the government has also been criticised by human rights groups and the media for clamping down on dissent as well as curbing press freedom and other political rights.
Only one party, the People's Action Party (PAP), has ruled the country since independence in 1965. Opposition leaders have been crippled by financially draining defamation suits filed by PAP stalwarts.
But Lee, who holds the advisory post of minister mentor in his son's cabinet, said the system worked well for Singapore, and dismissed opposition candidates contesting the May 6 general elections for having no credible alternative program.
During the question-and-answer session, Lee also dressed down a Singaporean journalist working for a foreign news agency who had asked why it was difficult to get data on the salaries of cabinet ministers.
"Oh come off it, it's in the budget," Lee snapped. "I'll have none of it. You cannot pay the ministers without a proper budget," he said.
"I will not put up with any slur that we are trying to hide our salaries. It's rubbish, plain rubbish and as a Singaporean you ought to know that."
Raising his voice, Lee cut off the journalist in the middle of a follow up question.
"I'm telling you the reply before you finish the question, so please consider carefully what else you're going to make, what other slurs you're going to imply. You're not going to intimidate me, ever."
Lee told another Singaporean foreign correspondent she was "talking like an ignorant voter" when she asked why constituencies who had voted for the opposition are left out in government improvement projects. -
one way of another....they are protraying you as a CHARACTER, in interview/s shows that people wants to know you more....how you able to cope your difficulties....Originally posted by freakass:Before you guys take in the entire story, please keep in mind the power of the pen... and also the writing and persuasive skills of a reporter... The same piece of news can be written to two extremes by two different reporters... Im not saying tht there's no truth in this article, but sometimes you have to give tough replies to the reporters because they were sent there to shoot you down.... if tht's the case, there's no need to be nice to them anyway...
else in the 1st place the interview is for who? -
My sentiments exactly, ellisbeck... I shall stop posting replies in this thread...Originally posted by ellisbeck:freakass, let's just not feed the narrow-minded anymore. Perhaps, some of these people just have to learn things the hard way. Vote for the opposition if you so think they can be more capable than the PAP because you have the right. I am thankful that the opposition just does not have the substance, but if they do, I wish all of us good luck because we certainly would need a lot of it. -
Granted. But the reporter did ask a very valid question. No matter in what tone I still feel he should've answered it instead of doing his typical "I was once a cross examiner so let me challenge you" bollocks.Originally posted by freakass:Before you guys take in the entire story, please keep in mind the power of the pen... and also the writing and persuasive skills of a reporter... The same piece of news can be written to two extremes by two different reporters... Im not saying tht there's no truth in this article, but sometimes you have to give tough replies to the reporters because they were sent there to shoot you down.... if tht's the case, there's no need to be nice to them anyway...
Besides, the AFP is a very respected and higly regarded press agency. -
no wonder they say
the older you are, the grumpier you get.
I respect LKY. But sometimes what he says just is too arrogant. It's not the 1965, he's not the only one that's educated.
Sadly, most sillyporeans don't really see both sides of the picture- of him. We always see the good side in the media, but the other side? Only international media knows... -
As I would like to self-educate and improve myself, please tell me how I've been narrow-minded towards this General Elections.Originally posted by ellisbeck:freakass, let's just not feed the narrow-minded anymore. Perhaps, some of these people just have to learn things the hard way. Vote for the opposition if you so think they can be more capable than the PAP because you have the right. I am thankful that the opposition just does not have the substance, but if they do, I wish all of us good luck because we certainly would need a lot of it. -
die liao........all the posters here better pack their bags and flee by boat to batam tonight by 1 am before the cops knock on your doors loudly.
die liao.......even FI cannot tahn this time. -
my mom use to say...."if you dont face any challenges in life, you wont learn anything".......Originally posted by freakass:My sentiments exactly, ellisbeck... I shall stop posting replies in this thread... -
Such a pity, I thought my reply to you was very fair and "un-narrowminded"Originally posted by freakass:My sentiments exactly, ellisbeck... I shall stop posting replies in this thread... -
The PAP thinks that LKY is their saviour at the end of the day. But they dont realise that among the younger generation he is an over used console.
The bottom line is he lablled us Singaporeans in general as Riff Raff. I am clearly insulted and annoyed by the old hag and his rambllings -
Why bother answering the 'blind'?Originally posted by Pronewbie:As I would like to self-educate and improve myself, please tell me how I've been narrow-minded towards this General Elections.
For they feel the tail of an elephant and say they are holding a snake.
Let them continue with their eyes closed and their ears tuned to only Ruling Party frequencies. Political ignorance is but the bane of many a brainwashed citizen. -
check history lar...without Lim Yew Hock...today Singapore is still under British sia...no him...we are English now leh...(but pound worth more than Sing Dollar)...
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Boys and girls,
Look at what you have now: A safe place to work, play, study and bring up your family. If not for a good Governmnet, you think these things drop from the sky?
Like I say before, if you travel enough and see the insides of other countries, you will appreciate your home here.
Learn to treasure what you have. -
You speak with the knowledge of a leaned sage, yet you deliver it with the same arrogance as the Ruling Party.Originally posted by sportsmandom:Boys and girls,
Look at what you have now: A safe place to work, play, study and bring up your family. If not for a good Governmnet, you think these things drop from the sky?
Like I say before, if you travel enough and see the insides of other countries, you will appreciate your home here.
Learn to treasure what you have.
What are you if not a parrot echoing rhetorical sentiments? -
are we COMPLACEMENT?Originally posted by sportsmandom:Boys and girls,
Look at what you have now: A safe place to work, play, study and bring up your family. If not for a good Governmnet, you think these things drop from the sky?
Like I say before, if you travel enough and see the insides of other countries, you will appreciate your home here.
Learn to treasure what you have. Complacement till the age where wedont think liao..."HEAVEN" will provide everything we need -
Originally posted by BillyBong:
Cool down Bill.
Why bother answering the '[b]blind'?
For they feel the tail of an elephant and say they are holding a snake.
Let them continue with their eyes closed and their ears tuned to only Ruling Party frequencies. Political ignorance is but the bane of many a brainwashed citizen.
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Guys and gals, lets refrain from labelling outers. If we do so, we would be just as impolite as the pap right?