'Quitters' contributed by PAP? our ruling party?
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Personally I think so.
The lack of freedom, democracy, an over-powering ruling party
and its policies are some of the reasons why we have so many "quitters".
And those who left , many are really talented individuals,
who sees the flaws in PAP policies,
who are smart enough not to be brain-washed.
who feel Spore is not a place for non-elite with talents to live, etc etc -
i heard pap offsprings are quiters too.
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You saying somebody's daughter issit?
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So you mean WP manifesto all right?
Calling for a destructive feeder bus compeition
I wonder have they done their sums
Usually 1 feeder bus sv operated by SBS or SMRT, the ridership is more or less fixed everyday. Allowing compeition only splits the passengers up
Another thing, some bus interchanges can no longer allow more services to be introduced as like at Toa Payoh or Tampines as of lack of berths
Say Sv X has an avg of 20,000 passengers a day, based on the avg $0.50 as some have transfer rebate, fare collected is $10,000. If the op cost to profit ratio is 7:3, the cost is $7,000
Now there's compeition, it's either I reduce the fleet which defeats WP's yesterday speech of creating more jobs
If they go head on by keeping the fleet, ridership may reduce as much as to 10,000, by now my revenue collected is $5,000 a day. SBS now makes a loss from this, may I know isn't this causing fare hike as well?
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They are WP, not PTC, not SMRT, not SBST, they are just WP.Originally posted by sbst275:So you mean WP manifesto all right?
Calling for a destructive feeder bus compeition
I wonder have they done their sums
Usually 1 feeder bus sv operated by SBS or SMRT, the ridership is more or less fixed everyday. Allowing compeition only splits the passengers up
Another thing, some bus interchanges can no longer allow more services to be introduced as like at Toa Payoh or Tampines as of lack of berths
Say Sv X has an avg of 20,000 passengers a day, based on the avg $0.50 as some have transfer rebate, fare collected is $10,000. If the op cost to profit ratio is 7:3, the cost is $7,000
Now there's compeition, it's either I reduce the fleet which defeats WP's yesterday speech of creating more jobs
If they go head on by keeping the fleet, ridership may reduce as much as to 10,000, by now my revenue collected is $5,000 a day. SBS now makes a loss from this, may I know isn't this causing fare hike as well? -
Even if it's WP, how can they come with a manifesto that ends up ppl believe in that's not economically viable?Originally posted by ditzy:They are WP, not PTC, not SMRT, not SBST, they are just WP. -
The manifesto never ask you to go and believe, it is up to you, the reader to read, and decide if it makes sense.Originally posted by sbst275:Even if it's WP, how can they come with a manifesto that ends up ppl believe in that's not economically viable? If it doesn't make sense to you, its nonsense, never ask you to believe. Remember, you have a choice! -
where is this feeder bus manifesto?
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Beats the fcuk out of me.Originally posted by boyish love:where is this feeder bus manifesto? Oei! sbst275, please make yourself clear, don't be another gomez. -
Any party would follow their manifestoOriginally posted by ditzy:The manifesto never ask you to go and believe, it is up to you, the reader to read, and decide if it makes sense. If it doesn't make sense to you, its nonsense, never ask you to believe. Remember, you have a choice!
But of course I'm not saying PAP's is all right, education system is 1 agenda -
So WP set the standard and benchmark, pap copy them right? Except pap got pictures right?Originally posted by sbst275:Any party would follow their manifesto
But of course I'm not saying PAP's is all right, education system is 1 agenda -
Because it should have been the case for public transport to be PUBLIC. Not some whitewash of a faint sense of affected welfare.Originally posted by sbst275:Even if it's WP, how can they come with a manifesto that ends up ppl believe in that's not economically viable? 
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Didn't you read the news?Originally posted by ditzy:Beats the fcuk out of me. Oei! sbst275, please make yourself clear, don't be another gomez.
Also, it's available here on page 36: http://www.wp.sg/ge2006/pdf/wp_manifesto_2006.pdf
"Inter-town feeder bus services should be de-regulated to allow indv private operators as in the case of the mini-bus system in Hong Kong. The high mobility and relatively low overheads of the private operators would give them the flexibility to effectively meet the requirements of the local residents" -
If 1 operator has no objective be it to make profits, they wun find cost effective measures to keep cost low. The way it's going on, they are willing to let the buses be losing moneyOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Because it should have been the case for public transport to be PUBLIC. Not some whitewash of a faint sense of affected welfare. -
actually the priv bus ok idea wat. just those ferrying from various parts of singapore not covered under sbs feeder bus. some priv condo got provide from mrt to their condo.
it can mabe affect ntc bottem line but they already make so much profits and still want to raise fares..after election..
got competition good. also this can help opposition wards where ruling party play tricks to devalue wards to "punish" non voters. -
Ferrying from pte condo, the condo mgmt has arranged mini shuttle buses like MaplewoodsOriginally posted by boyish love:actually the priv bus ok idea wat. just those ferrying from various parts of singapore not covered under sbs feeder bus. some priv condo got provide from mrt to their condo.
it can mabe affect ntc bottem line but they already make so much profits and still want to raise fares..after election..
got competition good. also this can help opposition wards where ruling party play tricks to devalue wards to "punish" non voters.
NTC? They are asking for pte operators to come in
Compeition is good? The number of passengers is fixed, any action is just to split the passengers. Also, are you willing to fork the cost of expanding some bus interchanges for this? -
i think the point is they talk about minibus can also say shuttlebus. mabe your idea is that same big sbs feeder bus.
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"As in the case of"... The idea is just like the Scheme B pte buses in SingaporeOriginally posted by boyish love:i think the point is they talk about minibus can also say shuttlebus. mabe your idea is that same big sbs feeder bus.
Certain feeder bus svs, if they use mini bus, I think the passengers will be complaining. Some svs like 242, 291 which runs at 2-4 mins frequency even has to use double decks -
here is an idea. i think if provide more choice for commuters why not. got so many taxi company came up... -
Why not?Originally posted by boyish love:
here is an idea. i think if provide more choice for commuters why not. got so many taxi company came up...
You want a bus stop that is forever clogged with empty buses as like in the 1970's?
Taxi, you think the cab co care? The cabbie just rent the cab from them -
so the mini bus will help?Originally posted by sbst275:"As in the case of"... The idea is just like the Scheme B pte buses in Singapore
Certain feeder bus svs, if they use mini bus, I think the passengers will be complaining. Some svs like 242, 291 which runs at 2-4 mins frequency even has to use double decks
private operators with good entreprenuer visions will take on this. at least this sector is opened up. its all about choice and self reliance. failure or sucess at least worth a try. -
Mini Buses, let's put it frankly, pte housing estates that 12m long buses have prob serving, then it's viableOriginally posted by boyish love:so the mini bus will help?
private operators with good entreprenuer visions will take on this. at least this sector is opened up. its all about choice and self reliance. failure or sucess at least worth a try.
The prob is that PTC already gave this 3 years back: http://www.ptc.gov.sg/news6.pdf -
times are different. again it is about opening to flexibility.Originally posted by sbst275:Why not?
You want a bus stop that is forever clogged with empty buses as like in the 1970's?
Taxi, you think the cab co care? The cabbie just rent the cab from them
taxi alot co come up like wat silver cab. i think about the same thing.
any way govt encourage us to take public transport. -
wat happened 3 years back?Originally posted by sbst275:Mini Buses, let's put it frankly, pte housing estates that 12m long buses have prob serving, then it's viable
The prob is that PTC already gave this 3 years back: http://www.wp.sg/ge2006/pdf/wp_manifesto_2006.pdf
really i see no prob. if hk can why not us? if fail too bad to those daring entreprenue, if success... -
Taxis, the cab co just collect the rent from them regardless is there biz or not... So defintely the cab co hope to have as many cabs as possible...Originally posted by boyish love:times are different. again it is about opening to flexibility.
taxi alot co come up like wat silver cab. i think about the same thing.
any way govt encourage us to take public transport.