PAP keep nagging about James Gomez..
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Actually if WP win then it's good news...coz next election comes PAP is going to give everyone in aljunied GRC a free COE to win it back...Originally posted by ditzy:Me too, my folks say it'll be a wake up call for pap.
And aljunied has always been lousy under pap. -
hope they win. i dun know is the same for u, but keep hearing mr yeo speaking his shaaarp voice with a tone of haolian-ess on tv, turnoff.
gomez superstart 1900-WP-GOMEZ -
they keep attacking his integrity.
PAP should stick to the relevant issues. -
Once broken, considered sold.Originally posted by Himbo:Actually if WP win then it's good news...coz next election comes PAP is going to give everyone in aljunied GRC a free COE to win it back... Once WP secures aljunied, no way to take it back. PP and hougang will merge, aljunied will become 7 man grc. Oh forgot, 4 man can contest 5 man grc. -
PAP has no other relevant issues, other than that issue.Originally posted by dragg:they keep attacking his integrity.
PAP should stick to the relevant issues. Day in day out, nothing but gomez and lift upgrading, gomez and lift upgrading. -
maciam reality show, whack the Gomez and get free lifts.Originally posted by ditzy:PAP has no other relevant issues, other than that issue. Day in day out, nothing but gomez and lift upgrading, gomez and lift upgrading.
this is Singapore politics, Uniquely Singapore. -
In any entrapment, silence is golden. The more one tries to explain, the more the "hunter" will distort the explanations to make the whole thing look worse.
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To anyone who actually believes that James Gomez is dishonest and a liar etc.. I suggest that you attend the WP rallies and listen to what they have to say, instead of relying on the media for information. Please do remember that this is the media ranked 140th out of 167 in the world.
I have followed every election keely since 1997 and I have also read extensively about the incidents in 1988 with regards to Francis Seow. While I am not so foolish as to take what the opposition says at face value, I urge everyone here not to do the same for the PAP. Read factual accounts, based on past trends and make your own judgement.
The Defamation Suit Trap
To me, it is clear what the PAP is trying to do. They are trying to round on Gomez and assassinate his character. He is in a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't situation. Watch what happens. It is perfectly conceivable now that he says "I am not the liar, Wong Kan Seng in the liar" and I assure you that defamation suits galore will immediately start pouring in. This is based on the "doctrine of innuendo" that the Singapore courts have evolved, to which there is completely no objective test. I have provided 3 examples of precedents for this:
1. Tang Liang Hong
In 1997, they labelled Tang Liang Hong "a dangerous man", a "racist", "Chinese chauvinist" etc, allegations which were all untrue. The fact is that Teo Chee Hean had heard Tang speak at a dinner function in 1994, where the latter urged more members from the Chinese community to step forward, as the number of English educated in the Cabinet was disproportionate to their actual number in society.
Strange then that they waited 3 years to bring this up. Just like Inderjit Singh in this case, Teo was the 'whistle blower' whose intention was to warn Singaporeans of this so-called dangerous man.
Tang refuted their claims by calling them 'lies', and this invited 13 defamation suits, with damages totalling some $6+ million, because this implied 'by innuendo' that the Ministers were morally bereft, dishonest and therefore unfit for office. Tang's assets were frozen BEFORE the court had reached a verdict, and his wife (who had nothing to do with it at all) was made a co-defendant in the case.
2. J.B. Jeyaretnam
At a rally during the same election, J.B. Jeyaretnam held up a police report which Tang had made against the PAP leaders for slandering him and tarnishing his reputation. Police reports are supposed to be confidential.
However, Wong Kan Seng retrieved the police report (so much for the separation of powers) and passed it on to Lee Kuan Yew, who released it to the press. Then 13 PAP leaders sued both Tang and Jeyaretnam for defaming them, by insinuating that the leaders were guilty of a criminal offence and therefore unfit for office.
Jeyaretnam was also sued for saying "I have a police report which Mr Tang has made against Mr Goh Chok Tong.." because this was implying that Goh was a criminal and therefore unfit for office. In the first instance, the court awarded "derisory damages" to Goh because it held that the lawsuit had been brought frivolously. "Derisory damages" amounted to $20,000 - hardly "derisory".
This was largely due to Goh admitting, under cross examination from Charles Gray QC (now Mr Justice Gray) that he had had "an excellent year", in contrast to his claims in his affidavit that his reputation, both locally and internationally, had been severely impugned by Jeyaretnam's words. Interesting then that the trial judge, Rajendran J, was subsequently removed, and Mr Justice Gray is now barred from appearing as counsel in Singapore courts because he is a person of 'questionable moral character'.
Goh appealed against the judgement of Rajendran J on the basis that the damages awarded were "manifestly inadequate", and the Court of Appeal duly increased the sum ten-fold, to $200,000. Jeyaretnam, who had already paid off millions in damages, still remains an undischarged bankrupt to this day.
3. Chee Soon Juan
During the 2001 elections, Chee Soon Juan asked Goh Chok Tong during a community walkabout, using a loudhailer, "Prime Minister, where is the money?" This was held to be an insinuation that Goh was corrupt, dishonest and unfit for office. Duly, Chee was made to pay $500,000 in damages, and, as the court held in a 'summary judgement' earlier this year, was subsequently made a bankrupt. How convenient that the elections were to be held this year, eh?
Note, I am by NO MEANS a supporter of Chee Soon Juan, I think he is a completely inept politician and woe betide his foolish constituents if ever he is elected into Parliament. But from a strictly legal point of view, this absurd doctrine that the Singapore courts have evolved, is certainly a 'world first' - is this what they mean when they say 'Uniquely Singapore? -
The WP is not stupid, they learn from their mistakes to be able to reach the stage they are today. If this isn't sheer determination, you tell me what it is. Sheer luck? Anyone who can outplay and outwit the PAP in their own game definitely gets my vote.
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i think WP stands a good chance of creating an upset.
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Yes, george yeo will be quite upset, actually he already is.
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Ditzy,Originally posted by ditzy:The WP is not stupid, they learn from their mistakes to be able to reach the stage they are today. If this isn't sheer determination, you tell me what it is. Sheer luck? Anyone who can outplay and outwit the PAP in their own game definitely gets my vote.
WP Sylvia Lim will definitely wins your precious vote......
She attack PAP laudable with nice and plesant laughters.
I'm glad to see this great lady stepped forward into our Singapore err........politics
God must bless her fairly to wins as many as she could. -
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Gomez is a liar?
George is a betrayer. Confirmed.
He suggested casino. To bloom economy? To attract the rich to come? Rich or active gamer need wat? eat, drink, sex and gamble. Does IR provide all this? of course. Eat, drink and gamble come first. Follow by prostitution (high class one).
Casino lust core hard gambler and prostitute. Don't be surprise our generation or next, your near kin be one of them.
How many of us will be suffering and how many souls will be lost? This Judas has betrayed his believe and Singaporean.
I wish that I can rather die of hunger than living without soul. Hoping that myself and my near kin will be fine after 5 years. CASINO you are so tempting.
Pick A Pig as mandatary? Why not to Wise Persons -
I see sylvia lim around the aljunied area the past few years already, george yeo on the other hand, I never see at all. Or maybe my timing lousy.Originally posted by SG,LauBaiXing:Ditzy,
WP Sylvia Lim will definitely wins your precious vote......
She attack PAP laudable with nice and plesant laughters.
I'm glad to see this great lady stepped forward into our Singapore err........politics
God must bless her fairly to wins as many as she could. Really lousy. -
He's totally rude!
Being rude to the officer and did not make an personal apology to him and her. -
gomez is a PAP mole..
so is CSJ
i mean, no one can be THAT dumb!
place moles in the strongest opposition camps to throw them into utter chaos..
what do you think? -
why keep on attacking James Gomez.?
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It's overatedOriginally posted by hoganrock:why keep on attacking James Gomez.?
But, I dun it's fair to the staff involved -
They were never involved, until pap made it such a big thing.Originally posted by sbst275:It's overated
But, I dun it's fair to the staff involved -
Originally posted by sbst275:It's overated
But, I dun it's fair to the staff involved -
Rude?Originally posted by sbst275:He's totally rude!
Being rude to the officer and did not make an personal apology to him and her.
Get on with the times la, I suppose you think the youngsters were rude to LKY?
That's why we need an independant Elections Department.So no one can use it as an issue..and the Elections Dept will be the final arbiter of matters. -
He insisted onto arguing with them that he 'submitted' the form and started pointing fingersOriginally posted by hoganrock:
"Thank you for your side of story", if you was the lady, you also get fed up -
Yes, they were rude to MM LeeOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Rude?
Get on with the times la, I suppose you think the youngsters were rude to LKY?
That's why we need an independant Elections Department.So no one can use it as an issue..and the Elections Dept will be the final arbiter of matters.
Indep? How indep?
If you think he wasn't rude? You put yourself being the lady on the phone -
rudeness has nothing to do with the election.Originally posted by sbst275:He insisted onto arguing with them that he 'submitted' the form and started pointing fingers
"Thank you for your side of story", if you was the lady, you also get fed up
being polite is not one of the criteria.