Singaporeans should say NO to vote buying....
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Progress Package, free abalone, free swatch watches, Free breakfast, free sharkfin(at hougang?), free Metro vouchers.........& what have you?
These PAPpy dogs think they can buy ppl integrity wif these cheap bribes of theirs.....
SIINGAPOREANs! PLS SHOW THAT WE'RE NOT CHEAPSTAKES WHO SOUL CAN BE BOUGHT OFF !!
SAY NO TO VOTE-BUYING, & VOTE THE OPPOSITIONs!!!!!!![/color=brown][/color] -
Then you return the progress package lor. Kaoz He gives everyone the same amount no matter PAP supporter or not. Even you vote oppo also like that. As if he gives you only if you vote. That's not really considered buying. votes... Further more. This is not the first time. The previous few times don't see people complaining. Maybe it happened to be near election...
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That is if they give after the election and not just b4 the election.It is so clear that cut case?Originally posted by banzie:Then you return the progress package lor. Kaoz He gives everyone the same amount no matter PAP supporter or not. Even you vote oppo also like that. As if he gives you only if you vote. That's not really considered buying. votes... Further more. This is not the first time. The previous few times don't see people complaining. Maybe it happened to be near election... -
Yah lor...agree with banzie...
Progress package is not vote buying....
.....lift-upgrading then is vote buying...
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ok maybe not vote buying but it is certain vote influencing
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are you influenced by the progress package ? ...Originally posted by Aveme:ok maybe not vote buying but it is certain vote influencing
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not me since mine area is a walkover area but it will certainly be vote influence for a certain segment of the population who need to voteOriginally posted by Fatum:are you influenced by the progress package ? ... -
well .. my point is this ... looking around at this forum, you think people's votes are being swung by a paltry few hundred dollars ? ....Originally posted by Aveme:not me since mine area is a walkover area but it will certainly be vote influence for a certain segment of the population who need to vote
it's an insult to them and their intelligence, no ? ... we're all entitled to our opinions and our votes of course, but we shouldn't get all sanctimonious and self-righteous about it yah ...
whatever the reasons the pappies gave out the moolahs for, that tiny windfall got me a new pair of shoes and a tank of petrol ... how I'll vote shall be a seperate matter, and I reckon it would be so for the majority of the people, no ? ....
(oops ! ... yeah ... I don't get to vote too, but I'm certainly not complaining about the money ... ) -
That's because you do not need the money. I imagine that someone who earns $600/month will be extremely grateful to the government.Originally posted by Fatum:well .. my point is this ... looking around at this forum, you think people's votes are being swung by a paltry few hundred dollars ? ....
it's an insult to them and their intelligence, no ? ... we're all entitled to our opinions and our votes of course, but we shouldn't get all sanctimonious and self-righteous about it yah ...
whatever the reasons the pappies gave out the moolahs for, that tiny windfall got me a new pair of shoes and a tank of petrol ... how I'll vote shall be a seperate matter, and I reckon it would be so for the majority of the people, no ? ....
(oops ! ... yeah ... I don't get to vote too, but I'm certainly not complaining about the money ... )
Of course, as stated by Chris Neo, the government could really be regarded as benevolent and generous only if this was their money! But this isn't. This is the tax payers' money. -
I dun mind them buying my votes as long as they are able to provide me with free food, free lodging, pay all my utility bill for the next 5 years
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Haiya, they give just take lor..
Vote still vote for opposition. -
i said a certain segment? the segment that is not highly education,have poor pay and live each day as it is esp the older generationOriginally posted by Fatum:well .. my point is this ... looking around at this forum, you think people's votes are being swung by a paltry few hundred dollars ? ....
it's an insult to them and their intelligence, no ? ... we're all entitled to our opinions and our votes of course, but we shouldn't get all sanctimonious and self-righteous about it yah ...
whatever the reasons the pappies gave out the moolahs for, that tiny windfall got me a new pair of shoes and a tank of petrol ... how I'll vote shall be a seperate matter, and I reckon it would be so for the majority of the people, no ? ....
(oops ! ... yeah ... I don't get to vote too, but I'm certainly not complaining about the money ... ) -
i wan shark fin oso -
The leader said it was crucial to benchmark ministers millions' salaries to the highest paid private sector executives or bosses to prevent corruption.
If Jack Welch or Bill Gates work in Singapore, our ministers' salaries might be benchmarked another 10 times or more I believe. Now our GLC CEOs like MediaCorp, Comfort, PSA and seconded ex-army or ex-politicians are being paid millions by way of benchmarking or upgrading as if to justify ministers' salary push.
That is why our economy has been declining since the 1970s losing out in competitiveness because of the super-inflated salaries of CEOs and the top layers. But workers would be the ones to get their wages and CPF cut in any recessions not the top layers.
Union did not raise objections or alternative solutions to problems regarding competitiveness due to self-rewards of highest salaries pushed by questionable benchmarking practices.
Hundreds of thousands are not good enough to make men desist temptation. This kind of leadership is based on concepts and assumptions.
Well UMNO had sacked one minister for corruption - buying of votes is a corrupt act. We are supposed to be a first wprld country. Yet our leaders say giving of free monies to citizens 6 days before polling is not corruption despite receiving the million dollar to prevent corruption.
By coincidence perhaps a few days before last election similar goodies or monies were given to the electorate in the form of ERS. So what is corruption and who defines corruption. Will the judges refer to the statutory definition which states : giving of monies, kind or gratuities in exchange or expectation of favour is corruption. If not will they refer to Oxford or Chamber. If they still cannot come to a definition of corruption, then who will define corruption.
We are placed at the top of the corruption free index. Is the index updated to include distribution of monies to electorate in election. Is it reliable? -
well, to the two bros>
yes you're right, I'm fortunate enough not to really need this sum, and yes, I think it would be fair to say that for lower income families, it's like receiving a two or three months bonus.
but my guess is that the blue collar chaps are the ones that are most likely to be anti-pappies ... cos they are the chaps that are most affected by higher costs of living, and depressed wages, not the professionals, civil servants, the comfortably middle class.
I am uncomfortable with this line of thought, because isn't that tatamount to saying that democracy can't really work ? ... that (some) people shall be suceptible to "vote-buying" ? ...
... that a sum of money, wherever that came from, can sway a person's political allegiance at the ballot boxes ? ...
I like to think, or at least I hope, that people are more conscientious about their votes than this .... do you ? ... -
Vote buying?
I think the opp have learnt to be smarter aren't they?
Now at rally they say Progress Package not enough... Might as well as ask them to say hold election on Sunday so that you can get extra 1 day of break? -
i received the letter for lift upgrading.
knn, still have to pay for it when i dont need the upgrading at all.
it is a silly thing to do.
so what after upgrading? sell, then i sleep at the bus stop?