James Gomez arrested !!!!
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If no requirement is needed for an Indian canidate cert, why he went there?
Answer the question
In fact, when the boundary report came out 2 mths bef election came, it was stated clearly already what's the requirement esp TODAY published it
If you can say you got a source not from the ELD, state the link
Have you heard both sides of the story?
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This thread is a hoax... don't get so excited. They can't afford to turn Gomez into the next CSJ.
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why did you say so?Originally posted by casino_king:This thread is a hoax... don't get so excited. They can't afford to turn Gomez into the next CSJ. -
That This thread is a hoax... or They can't afford to turn Gomez into the next CSJ?Originally posted by dibilo:why did you say so? -
I find it comforting that everytime they try to 'fix' the opposition post-election, new ones arrive on the scene the next GE.
Onward and forward, I say. -
If anyone wants to see which GRC needs what
Green is Malay
Blue is Indian or other Minority
Section right below
http://www.elections.gov.sg/types_electoral.htm#2 -
all mod are sleeping?
If the suject is not true,close this thread now.
Very details will be revealed if this guy to be questioned.
There are other people involved:
play write,director,etc James will not be alone. -
Interesting to see how much passion JG stirs.... even for something that is a hoax
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Shucks! It's True!
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/060507/3/40lwi.html
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Sunday May 7, 9:26 PM Reuters
Singapore opposition candidate faces police probe
SINGAPORE, May 7 (Reuters) - A Singapore opposition candidate has been summoned for police questioning after a complaint by the Elections Department one day after a poll in the city state, a police official said on Sunday.
James Gomez, 40, a candidate from the emerging opposition Workers' Party (WP), came under attack from the ruling People's Action Party (PAP) after he wrongly claimed that the Elections Department, which comes under the Prime Minister's Office, had lost one of his polling forms.
Gomez, who apologised for his oversight, was repeatedly condemned as a "liar" by PAP leaders, who accused him of a ruse to discredit the election office.
"Police have received a complaint against Mr. James Gomez from the Elections Department. Police are investigating," police spokeswoman Siow Cheng Cheng told Reuters.
The police probe came a day after the election, which saw the PAP, led by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, winning 66.6 percent of the votes cast and sweeping 82 out of 84 seats in parliament.
As with previous polls, this election was also overshadowed by defamation lawsuits and personal attacks -- a timeworn PAP tactic that has bankrupted some opposition leaders, thus disqualifying them for parliament.
Just a week before the election, Lee and his father, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew, launched a defamation suit against the tiny Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) and its leaders. -
Click and seeOriginally posted by lionnoisy:all mod are sleeping?
If the suject is not true,close this thread now.
Very details will be revealed if this guy to be questioned.
There are other people involved:
play write,director,etc James will not be alone.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_POL_SINGAPORE_POLITICIAN_ARRESTED_ASOL-?SITE=ASIAONE&SECTION=SPECIAL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-05-07-07-49-18 -
Another one.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_POL_SINGAPORE_POLITICIAN_ARRESTED_ASOL-?SITE=ASIAONE&SECTION=SPECIAL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-05-07-07-49-18
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May 7, 8:35 AM EDT
Singapore opposition politician arrested for allegedly threatening election officials
By EN-LAI YEOH
Associated Press Writer
SINGAPORE (AP) -- A Singapore opposition politician was arrested Sunday for allegedly threatening the country's election officials, a day after he failed to win a seat in national elections, an aide said.
Workers' Party candidate James Gomez was arrested Sunday for alleged "criminal intimidation," his aide Jacob George said. Gomez was attempting to leave the country but was stopped by immigration officials, who turned him over to the police.
"We don't know the specifics, but it could be due to the minority certificate," said George, referring to an incident when Gomez initially accused officials of misplacing his election papers more than a week before Saturday's election.
He subsequently apologized after security camera footage showed he put the form into his bag. The academic claimed he was distracted.
Gomez was part of a five-member Workers' Party team that contested a multimember ward against the ruling People's Action Party, where a minority candidate is compulsory.
On Saturday, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong's PAP won 82 of 84 seats in Singapore's 10th general elections since independence in 1965.
"Police received a complaint against James Gomez from the Elections Department, and police are investigating," said police spokeswoman Siow Cheng Cheng. She did not elaborate.
A security official, speaking on condition of anonymity in line with policy, said Gomez has not been charged. If found guilty for criminal intimidation, Gomez could be jailed for up to seven years.
It is not immediately clear why the elections department waited till after the polls to file the complaint.
The incident was played up by ruling party politicians and local media, which rarely deviate from the government line.
Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Yew, called Gomez, 40, "a liar" and a "bad egg."
"He's not a fool ... He's saying he's got brains," elder statesman Lee was quoted on state-broadcaster Channel NewsAsia's Web site as saying. "Well, what do you use those brains for?"
Lee is the father of the current prime minister and wields considerable influence as "Minister Mentor" in his son's cabinet.
The PAP said they targeted Gomez, a researcher with a Stockholm-based institute, as it was an issue of credibility. -
Someone out to FIX him!
Too obvious liao lah!
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Police spokeswoman Siow Cheng Cheng you people siao liao ah?
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yes it is true
i wonder how that can be treated as a threat?
He was just reminding the staff that it is a very serious issue and asked them to double check b4 calling him which the staff did later and gomez accepted and even later apologized for any confusion and distress born by the staff.
And regards to the fact that he did not need the minority certificate
It was already explained that Gomez requested for such a certificate incase from the day he request for it to the nomination day,emergency situation warrent him to be transferred to be contested in another GRC.Not unreasonable to be well prepared? Shows that WP is more careful this time round and more serious? -
You go talk the same way to a civil servant, see what happens to you the next momentOriginally posted by Aveme:yes it is true
i wonder how that can be treated as a threat?
He was just reminding the staff that it is a very serious issue and asked them to double check b4 calling him which the staff did later and gomez accepted and even later apologized for any confusion and distress born by the staff.
And regards to the fact that he did not need the minority certificate
It was already explained that Gomez requested for such a certificate incase from the day he request for it to the nomination day,emergency situation warrent him to be transferred to be contested in another GRC.Not unreasonable to be well prepared? Shows that WP is more careful this time round and more serious? -
Time for WP to organise peaceful Rally against POLITICAL TERRORISM!
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Any lawyers around to comment on what's the min and max punishment for the offence he is being investigated?
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I read from a response that Low Thia Khiang made all the minority candidates apply for a cert, so that they could have the flexibility of fielding a candidate elsewhere should the need arise.Originally posted by sbst275:If no requirement is needed for an Indian canidate cert, why he went there?
In fact, when the boundary report came out 2 mths bef election came, it was stated clearly already what's the requirement esp TODAY published it
If you can say you got a source not from the ELD, state the link
I don't have a source so take it with a pinch of salt, though something like this is not inconceivable. -
well so far there is no recording released on this (or did i missed it out?) the recording is only from the phone call to gomez to tell him the CCTV filmed what happenedOriginally posted by sbst275:You go talk the same way to a civil servant, see what happens to you the next moment
the speech btw gomez and the civil servant is not there,only the footage showing him talking normally to the people there and asked them to do a double check as the matter was serious and there could be consequences (he did not mentioned specific consequence,did he say specifially if it is not found,he will come back and kill the staff? or that he will do something specifically to harm the staff?)
Consequences in this case can mean anything,like consequences that it could result in WP's plans to be affected,there is no specific speech to say that the consequences will 100% be negative on the election staff.Whatever is said to implicate him is only assumptions by the PAP.If they had proof (as in speech captured),the police would have already arrested gomez long ago,why wait until now?So we have to confirm on what truely happened b4 we make assumption ourselves -
As i understand from the dialect news, he was summoned to Cantoment place, not arrested.
The boys in blue are just trying to scare him....not enough evidence to charge him, and if they make it a civil case, then it is up to the elections committee to sue, not anyone else. -
You missed out a lotOriginally posted by Aveme:well so far there is no recording released on this (or did i missed it out?) the recording is only from the phone call to gomez to tell him the CCTV filmed what happened
the speech btw gomez and the civil servant is not there,only the footage showing him talking normally to the people there and asked them to do a double check as the matter was serious and there could be consequences (he did not mentioned specific consequence,did he say specifially if it is not found,he will come back and kill the staff? or that he will do something specifically to harm the staff?)
Consequences in this case can mean anything,like consequences that it could result in WP's plans to be affected,there is no specific speech to say that the consequences will 100% be negative on the election staff.Whatever is said to implicate him is only assumptions by the PAP.If they had proof (as in speech captured),the police would have already arrested gomez long ago,why wait until now?So we have to confirm on what truely happened b4 we make assumption ourselves
CCTV no voice, they took CNA's video
Actually, lying to a civil servant is good enough to put you in jail -
WP's Gomez detained over Elections Department complaint
SINGAPORE : James Gomez, the man at the centre of a controversy with the Elections Department over a minority candidate certificate, has been detained by police.
In a statement, police said they were investigating after receiving a complaint against Mr Gomez from the Elections Department.
Mr Gomez was stopped at Changi Airport on Sunday afternoon and prevented from leaving for Sweden.
Channel NewsAsia understands his passport and boarding pass have been confiscated.
Mr Gomez was taken to the Police Cantonment Complex at 4pm to have his statement taken.
During the hustings, Mr Gomez was embroiled in a controversy over his application for a minority candidate certificate.
He claimed to have submitted an application at the Elections Department, but security camera footage showed otherwise.
People's Action Party leaders later accused Mr Gomez of trying to discredit the Elections Department by claiming its staff had misplaced his form.
In a statement, Deputy Prime Minister Wong Kan Seng had charged that Mr Gomez stage-managed the entire episode from the start.
Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew called Mr Gomez a liar, a charge he repeated on Sunday before police confirmed they had detained the Workers' Party candidate.
Said Mr Lee, "When I call a man openly, you're a liar, you're dishonest, and you do not dare to sue me, there's something basically wrong. And I will repeat it anywhere and you can't go and say, oh, I have apologised; let's move on. Can you commit a dishonourable -- maybe even one which is against the law -- an illegal act and say, let's move on because I've apologised? You may move on but you're going to move on out of politics in time."
Mr Lee said that whether other Workers' Party members connived at Mr Gomez's doings was a matter still to be determined.
Meanwhile, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong was asked to comment on Mr Gomez's detention during his victory parade in Ang Mo Kio.
Mr Lee said he was not aware of what had happened, since the Elections Department filed a police report against Mr Gomez.
He said the matter was now in the hands of police.
At about 8pm, Workers' Party chairman Sylvia Lim and the party's defeated candidate in Ang Mo Kio GRC, Lee Wai Leng, were seen entering the police headquarters.
It is believed they are helping with investigations. - CNA /ct
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Ah.. you missed the punchline.... which is something like... raise one finger, look sternly at the public servant (Mr Ricky Tan, now quite famous) and say "there will be consequences".Originally posted by Aveme:yes it is true
i wonder how that can be treated as a threat?
He was just reminding the staff that it is a very serious issue and asked them to double check b4 calling him which the staff did later and gomez accepted and even later apologized for any confusion and distress born by the staff.
And regards to the fact that he did not need the minority certificate
It was already explained that Gomez requested for such a certificate incase from the day he request for it to the nomination day,emergency situation warrent him to be transferred to be contested in another GRC.Not unreasonable to be well prepared? Shows that WP is more careful this time round and more serious?
If he had said something like what Terminator had said to the police.."I'll be back"... then it is ok.
Well, if it was indeed for emergency purpose that he gets the minority certificate, then Ms Slyvia Lim shot him dead by saying there was no intend for him to contest anywhere except Aljunied.
My personal take/speculation/coffeeshop talk of the matter is that he found out that he had not submitted the application form sometime later in the day, knew he did not need the certificate, remembered that the cameramen filmed him filling up the form at election department AND saw an opportunity to take a cheap shot/revenge at the election department for saboing him the last election (you know his history right) and decide to "take the shot"/FIX the election department. Thus the "wayang" comment.
Bad news, forgot to check for security camera(s) and Oooooppssss! Sorry, yep will check, thanks for your precious time, see you next year, hope you did not take my threat seriously, i was just testing to see if you are alert.... -
i do not understand why do you want to 100% assume that it is lying?Originally posted by sbst275:You missed out a lot
CCTV no voice, they took CNA's video
Actually, lying to a civil servant is good enough to put you in jail
Do you mean that it is not possible he had truely forgotten and thought that he did so he told the staff that he did (yes his fault for forgetting and did not clarify his fact first,but can anyone of you tell me that you had never forgotten anything yourself and did not get facts right b4 speaking?)
He had already apologized for making this mistake of forgetting and causing confusion and distress to the staff.Is that not enough?
And if there is specific speech recording saying that he threaten specific actions (and not just saying there is consequences) why did the police not arrest him much earily and put up a convincing implication of Gomez during election time instead of just bombarding him? It shows that they do not have conclusive proof so stop your assumption ok if even the police cannot have conclusive proof) -
oh no.. my prophecy (read my other post regarding Political Life Cycle in Singapore) is coming true!!!
Gomez look so chinese to me that he needs to prove he is a minority.