Singaporean !!!Lets pray for Taiwan 's future
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I am a Singaporean but ever since i have starthub digital cable , I have been watching Taiwan news .
Taiwanese even fought in parliament infront of Taiwanese's Founding father sun yat san 's protrait . That's really a disgrace .
Imagine ur Mps fighting in ur parliament !!!
Then got a lot of corruption in Taiwan .
Then their economy sux too .
Taiwan has suffred under Chen Shui Bian 's reign . He's still onthe aeroplane , deciding where to go nxt . Even USA got sick of him .
After Mayor Ma came to singapore , I have decided to post this .
Lets pray that in 2008 ROC presidential election , a capable leader will emerge and bring Taiwan to a greater heights .
As for wad li ao said , just dun care abt him .
He's just a crazy politician andhistorian in Taiwan . -
And what else do you know about Taiwanese politics?
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i believe ma will eventually become the president.
he will do a good job. -
My fren, you think taiwan economy sucks??? ha
you should go find out more....
Most of the profiteering semicon fabs are owned and run by taiwanese companies.
And almost the whole world's PCs and laptops are designed and manufactured
in Taiwan.
Their economy influence is tremendous...
Thou I agree Taiwan politics is terrible now...
Its especially so becos Taiwan is now "sandwiched" among China, US, Japan.
Much like how singapore was in olden days.
And our media had us believe that is we vote for opposition, we would be like that...
haaa...this is so naive...
Wait, did you vote for pap jus because you actually believe what they said about taiwan???
Wakeup my fren...
But ok, back to taiwan now...
Yes, i hope Chen Shui Bian lose.
I heard he used underhand unethical methods to win votes....
Maybe you can compare them with us and see if there is any 'similarities' or 'differences'... -
i hope china invades and massacres all the taiwanese retards..then no more ah beng culture or retarded mando pop. if they invade i'll sponsor a napalm bomb.
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i thought a taiwanese said sg ppl was stupid..
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Chen shui bian won't win anymore .Originally posted by NuLife:My fren, you think taiwan economy sucks??? ha
you should go find out more....
Most of the profiteering semicon fabs are owned and run by taiwanese companies.
And almost the whole world's PCs and laptops are designed and manufactured
in Taiwan.
Their economy influence is tremendous...
Thou I agree Taiwan politics is terrible now...
Its especially so becos Taiwan is now "sandwiched" among China, US, Japan.
Much like how singapore was in olden days.
And our media had us believe that is we vote for opposition, we would be like that...
haaa...this is so naive...
Wait, did you vote for pap jus because you actually believe what they said about taiwan???
Wakeup my fren...
But ok, back to taiwan now...
Yes, i hope Chen Shui Bian lose.
I heard he used underhand unethical methods to win votes....
Maybe you can compare them with us and see if there is any 'similarities' or 'differences'...
He served his second term now , he step down in 2008 then other ppl will replace him .
The most possible ppl to replace him is mayor ma .
Asfor using unethical methods to win votes , he was shot be4 election day then he won the 2004 presidential election by a narrow margin .
being was believed to have altered the election results .
Taiwan economics really sux !!!
It's very obvious .
unemployment hi .
economic growth low and all that . -
so abvious from his name..Originally posted by Taiwanpolitics:Chen shui bian won't win anymore .
He served his second term now , he step down in 2008 then other ppl will replace him .
The most possible ppl to replace him is mayor ma .
Asfor using unethical methods to win votes , he was shot be4 election day then he won the 2004 presidential election by a narrow margin .
being was believed to have altered the election results .
Taiwan economics really sux !!!
It's very obvious .
unemployment hi .
economic growth low and all that .
are u the left winged activist? -
TAIPEI -- Taiwan's gross domestic product (GDP) grew by 4.09 percent in 2005 after a solid jump in the final quarter, exceeding market expectations, officials said Thursday.
In the October-December quarter, the GDP rose 6.40 percent year-on-year, compared with a previous growth estimate of 5.28 percent for the quarter and 4.38 percent registered in the third quarter, the Directorate General of Budget, Accounting and Statistics (DGBAS) said.
The DGBAS said it had decided to raise its 2006 GDP growth forecast to 4.25 percent from 4.08 percent.
Analysts had expected Taiwan to have difficulty attaining GDP growth of more than 4.0 percent because of a possible weakening in demand from the United States and China, the key markets for its exports
their economic growth is 4.09 % , whereas urs is higher than them .
they used to do better . -
You should pray for us...Originally posted by Taiwanpolitics:I am a Singaporean but ever since i have starthub digital cable , I have been watching Taiwan news .
Taiwanese even fought in parliament infront of Taiwanese's Founding father sun yat san 's protrait . That's really a disgrace .
Imagine ur Mps fighting in ur parliament !!!
Then got a lot of corruption in Taiwan .
Then their economy sux too .
Taiwan has suffred under Chen Shui Bian 's reign . He's still onthe aeroplane , deciding where to go nxt . Even USA got sick of him .
After Mayor Ma came to singapore , I have decided to post this .
Lets pray that in 2008 ROC presidential election , a capable leader will emerge and bring Taiwan to a greater heights .
As for wad li ao said , just dun care abt him .
He's just a crazy politician andhistorian in Taiwan . -
no.. he jus call us LP..Originally posted by blackchickenahkai:i thought a taiwanese said sg ppl was stupid.. -
anyway, acer, benq, asus, all these electronic products r taiwan brands..
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did u know that taiwan have the best watermelons
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li ao scold us stupid .
Mayor ma said we r not during his visit to s'pore .
few years back , chen tang shan scold us LP , suck PRC balls . -
i'd love to see one fine day our mp fight.
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my laptop is acer and i enjoy taiwan fruits when my relatives from taiwan gave me as a present .
I do hope that mayor ma wins the presidential election in 2008 .
he can relieve cross straits tension , he is also well respected in KMT and ppl .
If no problems poped out , he should be able to win . He is also trying to gain international recognition , he went to USA , s'pore and next stop should be australia .
No 1 in DDP ( ah bian 's party ) can win him in terms of popularity . -
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someone show that to li ao...
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Chen runs afoul of U.S. pressing for independenceOriginally posted by Taiwanpolitics:Chen shui bian won't win anymore .
He served his second term now , he step down in 2008 then other ppl will replace him .
The most possible ppl to replace him is mayor ma .
Asfor using unethical methods to win votes , he was shot be4 election day then he won the 2004 presidential election by a narrow margin .
being was believed to have altered the election results .
Taiwan economics really sux !!!
It's very obvious .
unemployment hi .
economic growth low and all that .
2006/5/14
By Peter Enav TAIPEI, AP
Taiwan's leader shook the hand of U.S. first lady Laura Bush at a ceremony this week in Costa Rica. Moments later, he approached her again and chatted briefly as his aide snapped a commemorative photo.
It's good that President Chen Shui-bian has a picture of the meeting because it might be the closest he'll get to a member of the American inner circle for quite some time.
Washington has been signaling its strong disapproval of Chen's efforts to encourage separateness from China on this island of 23 million people, 160 kilometers (100 miles) off the China coast.
Taiwan and China split amid civil war in 1949. Since then China has made it clear that any moves to formalize Taiwan's de facto independence would be met by force.
Lately American patience with Chen has started to wear thin. The trouble for the Taiwanese leader began on Feb. 27 when he scrapped a government body responsible for facilitating the eventual unification with the mainland.
The move provoked an angry reaction in Beijing, which saw it as part of Chen's deliberate drift toward independence. It also alarmed Washington, where the prospect of being dragged into a war across the volatile Taiwan Strait is viewed as a major security nightmare.
Testifying before the House International Affairs Committee on Wednesday, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Robert Zoellick made it clear that Chen's decision on the unification body was endangering American lives.
"We want to be supportive of Taiwan, while we're not encouraging those that try to move toward independence," he said. "Independence means war. And that means American soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines."
Another apparent sign of Washington's annoyance was its refusal to allow the Taiwanese president a stop in a key U.S. city as he traveled to Latin America, where he met Mrs. Bush. Chen has been allowed to make such stops before, and his inability to get permission this time was viewed as a major snub in Taiwan.
Washington decided to let Chen a short transit stop in Alaska, but the Taiwanese leader declined.
U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack reacted with icy indifference to Chen's decision. "I understand ... that he has chosen not to travel," McCormack said, conspicuously failing to mention Chen by name. "That's his decision."
Philip Yang of Taipei's National Taiwan University says a key question now is whether Chen has already burned his bridges with the United States, or whether he can somehow redeem himself during his final two years in office.
"It's still very hard to tell," he said. "But definitely the bridge for him is narrow."
Yang believes that Chen's problems are largely of his own making, the result of his constant attempts to push the envelope on Taiwanese independence, instead of understanding his dependence on American goodwill.
"The Bush administration may have started as the most pro-Taiwanese administration ever," he said. "But it's certainly not that way now."
Chen and his government have naturally tried to put the best face on their relations with Washington, blaming intrusive Chinese pressure for the American posture in limiting Chen to a transit stop in relatively isolated Anchorage.
But no less a light than Zoellick disagreed with them, suggesting that Chen had broken a promise to the U.S. in scrapping the mainland unification body.
He also denied that Chinese pressure had in any way influenced the American decisions on Chen's itinerary.
"We make our own decisions," he said in his House testimony. "We don't clear them with China. We don't negotiate them with China."
"It'll be extremely challenging for relations between Taipei and Washington to improve" during the remaining two years of Chen's presidency, said Lin Chong-Pin, president of the Foundation on International and Cross Strait Studies think-tank.
In an apparent slight, the United States offered to let Chen transit in remote Alaska or Hawaii this month instead of New York while on his way home from Latin America. Chen rejected the offer and was hailed a hero by some for standing up to Washington.
While Chen put on a brave face and tried to assure the public that the row with the United States would not impact bilateral relations, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Robert Zoellick appeared to harden parameters for ties.
Zoellick told a U.S. congressional hearing last week that Taiwan will "keep hitting into a wall" if it continues to test the "one China" policy under which Washington switched diplomatic recognition from Taipei to Beijing in 1979.
Zoellick also warned that Taiwan independence meant war with China risking the lives of American soldiers as he defended the administration against criticism by U.S. lawmakers for treating Chen is a "disgraceful" way.
"Washington's displeasure has been mainly targeted at Chen Shui-bian," said Lin, a one-time deputy defence minister and formerly one of Taiwan's top China policy makers.
Some saw the candid warning from Zoellick as a pre-emptive attempt to stop Chen from crossing China's red line -- formalizing Taiwan's de facto independence when amending the constitution in the run-up to the 2008 elections.
"The United States is worried Taiwan will move towards independence when it amends its constitution," said Lin, the political scientist.
Lin speculated that the White House appearance of Chinese President Hu Jintao last month may have prompted the United States to deny President Chen a stop in New York to avoid hurting U.S.-China ties.
Chen's woes began, analysts say, when he ignored U.S. warnings and held a landmark referendum alongside presidential elections in 2004. China's parliament passed the Anti-Secession Law the next year mandating armed conflict in one of Asia's most dangerous flashpoints.
Ignoring U.S. admonitions again, Chen scrapped a dormant but symbolic body and guidelines on eventual unification with China in February in what Lin, the former official, described as "the last straw that broke the camel's back." -
we cant even guarantee our own future.
who cares about taiwan?
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Please lah..China will have nothing distract attention if they take back Taiwan. Just like now, Malaysia don't wanted to talk to us..Originally posted by vito_corleone:i hope china invades and massacres all the taiwanese retards..then no more ah beng culture or retarded mando pop. if they invade i'll sponsor a napalm bomb.
Very boring watching "Tu Ka He" although very difficult to act, you know. -
no distraction? yasukuni, energy interests in latin america and africa, their old buddy kim jong il, growing japanese paranoiaOriginally posted by king108:Please lah..China will have nothing distract attention if they take back Taiwan. Just like now, Malaysia don't wanted to talk to us..
Very boring watching "Tu Ka He" although very difficult to act, you know. -
China only concentrated on developing those coastal province. Those inner provinces are no as well developed. Hence, it's a matter of time, the gap of the rich and poor surfaced and uncontrollable.Originally posted by vito_corleone:no distraction? yasukuni, energy interests in latin america and africa, their old buddy kim jong il, growing japanese paranoia
Besides that, even coastal provinces are competing with each others.. that will make things worst.
Who benefited? -
KSM??Originally posted by king108:Very boring watching "Tu Ka He" although very difficult to act, you know.
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every country concentrates on the development of major areas..even singapore. compare the prosperous and chic cbd with a more..."unglam" area like bedokOriginally posted by king108:China only concentrated on developing those coastal province. Those inner provinces are no as well developed. Hence, it's a matter of time, the gap of the rich and poor surfaced and uncontrollable.
Besides that, even coastal provinces are competing with each others.. that will make things worst.
Who benefited?