2.SG PM met NZ's opposition leader openly.I dunt knowOriginally posted by Atobe:Even PM LHL called on the leader of the Oppostion during his recent visit to Australia, and it has also been the habit of MM LKY and SM GCT to call on the leader of the opposition when they visit those countries that practices democratic politics.
Are our political leaders not interfering in the domestic political agenda of other countries ?
Responding, lawyers for PM Lee and MM Lee rebutted any suggestion that the leaders were shying away from a hearing in open court.fr The Star Friday June 16, 2006
“Applications for summary judgment are made in cases where the defendants have no defence but try to waste the court’s time.
“The High Court hears thousands of such applications. During such applications, defendants are given the opportunity to persuade the court that they have a defence which should go for trial.
“They are given every chance to present their evidence and case,” the statement said, urging the Chees to focus on preparing their arguments to the court.
“In doing that, they will no doubt remember... the Singapore Democratic Party, and all their fellow CEC (central executive committee) members have accepted that there is no defence.”
Originally posted by lionnoisy:Yes, SG PM was able to meet the NZ's opposition leader - as well as MM and SM were both able to meet the Opposition Leaders of other practising democracies - was entirely due to the open minded and generous attitude of a true Government Leader of a PRACTISING DEMOCRACY.
Quoted from post by Atobe:
Even PM LHL called on the leader of the Oppostion during his recent visit to Australia, and it has also been the habit of MM LKY and SM GCT to call on the leader of the opposition when they visit those countries that practices democratic politics.
Are our political leaders not interfering in the domestic political agenda of other countries ?
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2.SG PM met NZ's opposition leader openly.I dunt know
CSJ made known to public that he met then OPP party
leader,now PM of NZ, in NZ High Comm
in Sg which is a rectricted area.
I guess CSJ now not happy NZ's PM not push his case to LHL
and now disclosed his meeting with her.
Oh how I marvel at your child-like wonders.Originally posted by mancha:The Chees will not be interested in the trial.
They will employ all the delaying tactic they can muster.
Its publicity they want.
They want to sully the government of Singapore.
CSJ wants revenge.
Don't for one second believe that he is fighting for the rights of Singaporeans.
CSJ is not stupid, that he got himself into such a mess.
He is motivated by hate.
He couldn't care less for the SDP.
Do you think he care for Singaporeans.
He wants to embarrass the Singapore government, for what they did to him when he was a lecturer.
He was caught using university funds for his wife's thesis.
Oh! the embarassement of petty thievery of a learned person.
At least he is right about one thing... The embuzzling of the funds... Where as the LEE family after so many years had yet to embuzzle any of the government funds... dispite the early trying years of Singapore. At least they had not taken any without making it legal for them to take. Which of course accounted for the clean government we have.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Oh how I marvel at your child-like wonders.
2.will CSJ be arrestd just meeting opp party leader?do u think CSJOriginally posted by Atobe:
Will our political leaders from the PAP - forming the Singapore Government of the day - have such open minded attitude of tolerance ?
It is probably out of deference to the highly sensitive nature of our Singapore Political Leaders that any contacts with Singapore Opposition Members have to be conducted behind the secure close doors of the respective Foreign Embassies.
3.u mean they are corrupted and make it legally?Say it openly lah.Originally posted by banzie:. At least they had not taken any without making it legal for them to take. Which of course accounted for the clean government we have.
It is not so much that CSJ will be arrested for meeting the foreign opposition leaders, but more to the fact that the foreign opposition leaders have to consider the SENSITIVITY of the Singapore Authorities aka the Ruling Political Party, and its attitude towards such foreign interest in Singapore Opposition Members.Originally posted by lionnoisy:Original post by Atobe:
Will our political leaders from the PAP - forming the Singapore Government of the day - have such open minded attitude of tolerance ?
It is probably out of deference to the highly sensitive nature of our Singapore Political Leaders that any contacts with Singapore Opposition Members have to be conducted behind the secure close doors of the respective Foreign Embassies.
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2.will CSJ be arrestd just meeting opp party leader?do u think CSJ
action hv not been noticed?
Lawyer to face highest disciplinary committee.
He(M Ravi)could be struck off the rolls for being rude in court
Mr M Ravi has dedicated himself to these cases and has, as with previous cases, worked tirelessly and pro bono. He needs all the assistance he can get.pro bono, free of charge services.
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Looking ahead, there are many younger and very talented Singaporeans who can take up the torch and continue the struggle for democracy in our nation. Mr M Ravi, Mr Yap Keng Ho and members of the Think Centre are but a few examples.
if you don't know anything about what goes on in Chee's circle, don't try to act smart.Originally posted by lionnoisy:STimes 29.06.2006 Thurs,page H2.
pro bono, free of charge services.
2.it seems chee chose the wrong lawyer.
Mr Ravi's first stop is Budapest, Hungary where he will participate in a human rights course at the Central European University organized by the Open Society Institute. The five-day course will cover subjects on the teaching of human rights, the organizing of group protests, the reform of the rule of law, and the advocacy of human rights & good governance.
In such societies, there will inevitably emerge a ruling class that will seek to dominate those around it. For the dominated, remaining focused on food and shelter to the exclusion of protecting their right to have a say in how society is run is to invite exploitation and, ironically, eventual deprivation of oneÂ’s basic necessities.-----unknown author.
He(CSJ)is aiming for a much bigger goal: bringing down the city-stateÂ’s one-party system of government. His weapon is a campaign of civil disobedience against laws designed to curtail democratic freedoms.----Chee Soon Juan's interview with FEER--Far East Economics Review
“You don’t vote out a dictatorship,” he(CSJ) says. “And basically that’s what Singapore is, albeit a very sophisticated one. It’s not possible for us to effect change just through the ballot box. They’ve got control of everything else around us.” Instead what’s needed is a coalition of civil society and political society coming together and demanding change—a color revolution for Singapore.2.Just few times and call numberous.
He has already served numerous prison terms for this and other political offenses, including eight days in March for denying the independence of the judiciary. He expects to go to jail again later this year.
"There has been a spate of executions of African nationals across Asia, which had gone unnoticed. The Australian and Western counterparts get different treatment in the media," Ravi wrote on the web site.--http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,486030,00.html
For instance, German national Julia Bohl, who was convicted for drug trafficking in 2002, escaped the gallows in Singapore when she was released from prison and exiled in 2005.
Julia Bohl, 23, was spared the gallows after tests revealed this week that the amount of pure cannabis in the stash seized was below 500 grams.
(6) Unauthorised traffic in cannabis where the quantity is —MISUSE OF DRUGS ACT,(CHAPTER 185)Second Schedule.
(a) not less than 330 grammes and not more than 500 grammes
Penalty--Maximum 30 years or imprisonment for life and 15 strokes
1. Why was NKF's IPC reinstated despite misgivings about its operations from many quarters including that of the National Council of Social Services (NCSS)? What transpired between the Ministries of Finance and Health, NCSS and the NKF when this took?
2. Reports on the torture and abuse of ISA detainees and the use of the ISA by the PAP to crush the opposition especially during the 1960s, 70s and 80s.
3. The appointment of Lee & Lee, the law firm owned by Mr Lee Kuan Yew's family members, as one of the few law firms to conduct conveyancing for the HDB and the amount of cases Lee & Lee has handled for HDB.
4. The business dealings between the GIC and Mr Lo Hsing Han, a Burmese drug lord.
5. The failure of the Suzhou Industrial Park project in China and the finances of the project.
6. The pricing of HDB flats vis-Ã -vis the labour and material costs that go into constructing the flats.
Because these matters are in dispute and require evidence to be adduced, summary judgement cannot be the means by which the matter is decided.
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Is there anything wrong with advocating the reform of our political system? One party rule is a detriment to this nation.Originally posted by lionnoisy:CSJ is an revolutioner
2.Just few times and call numberous.
2.can u show me multiple parties sure can make the lifeOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Is there anything wrong with advocating the reform of our political system? One party rule is a detriment to this nation.
5. Discussions commenting on the similarity of the operations of the Government and the NKF in the Internet was rife:2.An PhD is really an PhD!!so smart!
Publish the salaries of PAP ministers for all to see
http://omekanahuria.blogspot.com/2005/07/publish-salaries-of-pap-ministers-for.html
T T Durai, Defamation Lawsuits, And The PAP Government
http://www.myapplemenu.com/singapore/2005/12/22/
Be Open on HDB Flat Pricing --- Open Letter to PM Lee
http://forums.hardwarezone.com/showthread.php?t=1235459
NKF Saga III: Transparency & Accountability?
http://singaporealternatives.blogspot.com/2005/07/nkf-saga-iii-transparency.html
WhereÂ’s the defamation?
http://singabloodypore.blogspot.com/2006/04/wheres-defamation.html
The Similarities Between Durai's NKF & the PAP
http://www.talkingcock.com/html/viewtopic.php?forum=6&topic=1439
Singapore's Greedy Ministers Compared With Other World Leaders
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sg_Review/message/1826
NKF Scam Places Spotlight On Rediculous Minister Salaries
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sg_Review/message/1811
Understanding Legitmized Corruption - The NKF Scam
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sg_Review/message/1808
The Board Behind The NKF Scam
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sg_Review/message/1802
NKF=PAP=CPF
http://search.blogger.com/?as_q=NKF&ie=UTF-8&ui=blg&bl_url=xenoboysg.blogspot.com&x=61&y=4
This latest development comes after both leaders won in their defamation suit against the Singapore Democratic Party on June 7 2006.
The High Court ruled in their favour after the SDP failed to file its defence.
The alleged defamatory article “Govt’s Role in the NKF Scandal” is reproduced below for readers to judge for themselves if it makes allegations anywhere close to what the Lees have imputed.----Govt’s Role in the NKF Scandal
Loh Chee Kong
[email protected]
In an unusual development, the judge presiding over the defamation suits against Opposition politician Chee Soon Juan and his sister disqualified himself from the case.
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This followed an application by Mr M Ravi, the lawyer for the Chee siblings, who had claimed that Justice Woo Bih Li may be biased against him.
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The lawyer and the judge had been involved in a sharp, widely-reported exchange in court some three years back in a completely unrelated case.
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It came back to cast a shadow over the current one in which the Chee siblings are being sued by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew. They are accused of publishing allegedly defamatory remarks in their party newsletter, The New Democrat. The two People's Action Party (PAP) leaders had applied for a summary judgment, which allows the court to reach a verdict without open trial.
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Yesterday, Mr Ravi was to challenge the legitimacy of a summary judgment in a defamation suit. After that, Justice Woo was to hear the application made by the PAP leaders.
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Instead, after about an hour, Principal Senior State Counsel Jeffrey Chan, who was representing the Attorney General's Chambers, emerged from the closed-door session and said that Justice Woo had decided to disqualify himself, to avoid any perception of bias.
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"It was the first time a judge has disqualified himself in my years of experience," said Mr Chan. He added: "We were quite surprised. I never expected the application to be made. Usually, application for the judge to be disqualified is based on bias against the litigant and not the solicitor."
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In 2003, Mr Ravi was representing convicted drug trafficker Vignes Mourthi, 22, who had been sentenced to death and had exhausted all avenues of appeal. Despite that, Mr Ravi sought a retrial and insisted on arguing even after the judge explained the case had run its course. He also sat down while the judge was taking notes.
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"I find your conduct improper and I have to make a complaint to the Law Society," Justice Woo told him then.
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To that, Mr Ravi had replied: "I have no fears ... I am migrating to Australia next month." Mr Ravi was subsequently fined.
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Yesterday, he said he had made the application for the judge to recuse himself on behalf of his clients who felt that Justice Woo might be biased against him.
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But Mr Ravi added: "I was assured by Justice Woo that he would not be biased against me". However, the judge accepted that the public's perception had to be taken into consideration, he said.
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Said Mr Ravi: "(Due to) the fact that (the exchange) was played out in the media again and again, the judge also felt that it was not healthy in the interest of justice that he continues to hear the matter."
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The hearing for a summary judgment against the Dr Chee and his sister and fellow Singapore Democratic Party member, Ms Chee Siok Chin, has been adjourned until a new judge is named.
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Mr Davinder Singh, who was representing the PAP leaders and was present outside the chambers yesterday, left shortly after he was informed of the latest development.
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Mr Ravi, who has been penalised four times by the Law Society, also told reporters that he has been served a letter of notice on Wednesday to appear before the Court of Three Judges — the legal profession's highest disciplinary body — over his latest disciplinary run-in, in which he was deemed to be disrespectful to a female district judge three years ago.
It has notified four publications - the International Herald Tribune, Financial Times, Newsweek and TIME - that the exemption granted to them will be lifted when their current permits expire.CNA 04 Aug 2006
This means they will then have to appoint a legal representative in Singapore and post a bond of S$200,000.
Since the two men(Senior and Junior Lee) are not willing to take the witness box in Singapore, perhaps they are more amenable to doing it in a Hong Kong court.
SDP's comment: After nearly half-a-century of uninterrupted PAP rule, this outcome signals an utter and complete failure of the population-control policy.As i always said,there is one fact but thousand opions.
First in was the Stop-At-Two policy, then came the hare-brained Graduate Mothers Scheme, and now its the the have-more-if-you-can-afford desperate measure coupled with the Foreign Talent Policy.
These policies have wreaked untold hardship on the people (the social impact of the foreign recruitment policy may yet prove disastrous for Singaporeans) and yet there is no way that the population can hold the PAP accountable.


state that the decisions in other common law jurisdictions “are decisions borne of the special circumstances in England, Australia and New Zealand and which have no relevance in Singapore.”2.Even sg is a common law system,Why Sg need follow rulings not
The Development of an Autochthonous Legal System5.so Spore do not change the law now just to fix CSJ.
1.2.28 In the 1970s and 1980s, there was an implicit casual comfort with the inherited traditions, practices and laws of England. The drive to create an autochthonous legal system gained increased momentum in the late 1980s and accelerated with the appointment of the current Chief Justice Yong Pung How in September 1990. This coincided with the period of intensive constitutional remaking to develop an autochthonous government and parliamentary system of Singapore. The departure from the Westminster-inspired parliamentary system was evident through the innovations, which attempted to handle the unique political circumstances here....
1.2.31 11 July 1994: The landmark Practice Statement on Judicial Precedent declared that the Privy Council, Singapore’s predecessor courts, as well as the Court of Appeal’s prior decisions no longer bound the permanent Court of Appeal. The Practice Statement reasoned that ‘[t]he development of our law should reflect these changes [that political, social and economic circumstances have changed enormously since Singapore’s independence] and the fundamental values of Singapore society’. Increasing confidence in the growing maturity and international standing of Singapore’s legal system as well as the concern that Britain’s increasing links with the European Union would render English law incompatible with local developments and aspirations gave impetus to the legal autochthony effort....
SECTION 3 COMMON LAW IN SINGAPORE
The Doctrine of Judicial Precedent
1.3.2 In essence, the common law system of Singapore is characterised by the doctrine of judicial precedent (or stare decisis). According to this doctrine, the body of law is created incrementally by judges via the application of legal principles to the facts of particular cases. In this regard, the judges are only required to apply the ratio decidendi (or the operative reason for the decision) of the higher court within the same hierarchy. Thus, in Singapore, the ratio decidendi found in the decisions of the Singapore Court of Appeal are strictly binding on the Singapore High Court, the District Court and the MagistrateÂ’s Court.
The court decisions from England and other Commonwealth jurisdictions are, on the other hand, not strictly binding on Singapore. Other judicial statements (obiter dicta) made by the higher court in the judgment which do not directly affect the outcome of the case may be disregarded by the lower court.
1.3.6 Two recent examples shall suffice at this juncture as a manifestation of SingaporeÂ’s desire to develop an autochthonous legal system and body of laws. In the law of torts, the Singapore courts have consciously deviated from the exclusionary rule in the English case of Murphy v Brentford District Council (1991) so as to allow recovery for pure economic losses arising from negligent acts or omissions based on Anns v Merton (197 8 ) . More recently, in the law of contract, the Singapore Court of Appeal in Chwee Kin Keong v Digilandmall.com Pte Ltd (2005) has chosen not to adopt the position in the English Court of Appeal decision in Great Peace Shipping Ltd v Tsavliris Salvage (International) Ltd (2002) on equityÂ’s jurisdiction in the case of unilateral mistake. This need for the autochthony of Singapore law is further driven by the European Union legal developments and their impact on the British system.