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personally, i really dont care who is in power. I just want 2 solid parties to represent the people and i want the human rights which we all deserve. I want out govt to practice true transparency and not hide everything behind the media..
it is impossible to have a perfect govt. but i want our govt to at least TRY to be perfect. By controlling everything, even the people's voices, they are obviously trying to remove democracy from this nation. -
Well, in time to come, 50% of our population will comprise mainly of foreigners.
The trend of locals immigrating is every increasing - those who have the means will surely do so.
New generations will likely more globally mobile, affluent, highly educated, and family or parents likely well travelled and financially capable.
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shut the fark up lah.....its true what..Originally posted by sgdiehard:Another piece of s h i t from down under. His understanding of kiasu is wrong; do we execute more people per head a year? Do we really have “one of the most homogeneous race profiles in the world” ? do we see the need for racial harmony from the lesson of The Maria Hertogh case? and are we Singaporean truly “unaware” the issues affecting us? For somebody who needs to travel along way before they see the world, it is arrogance to think he knows Singapore better than Singaporean, and it is naive to think he can speak for the people of the world.
I donÂ’t really care about the dispute between Michael and Eddie, make fun of Singapore as you wish, and ridicule PAP if you dare, but do not generalize Singaporean. We know there are inadequacies in our society, our system, our country, just like any other country. Criticize us but donÂ’t say things we already know, give us some analysis of the problem to show you understand, offer some solutions, even if they are academic, to show you are constructive. Otherwise, stay down under and shut up.
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A number of people I spoke to said that it was a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea when it comes to voting.Originally posted by LazerLordz:it will push both major parties to be honest.
still, many do not dare take the plunge.
And some of them would rather deal with the former's certainties than face the unknown that comes with the latter.
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Well you can't really blame them. Many people are risk averse and would rather stick to doing or choosing what they are familiar with, even if its something that they are not happy with.Originally posted by fudgester:A number of people I spoke to said that it was a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea when it comes to voting.
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realise that when the pap brings in the foreigners, and gives them citizenship, the foreigners will always vote pap??Originally posted by ShutterBug:Well, in time to come, 50% of our population will comprise mainly of foreigners.
The trend of locals immigrating is every increasing - those who have the means will surely do so.
New generations will likely more globally mobile, affluent, highly educated, and family or parents likely well travelled and financially capable.
What do you think? Will locals stay on to all of these that people have posted in here??
maybe its one way to secure votes due to an increasing number of internet savvy singaporeans.
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is that all you can say? sad.Originally posted by valentinoo:shut the fark up lah.....its true what..
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You forget that these foreigners are not used to being muzzled. India, and I dare say China, has a more flourishing scene with regards to local politics and freedom of opinion, and the ability of interest groups and caucuses to pressure the state to get things done.Originally posted by OO_OO_OO:realise that when the pap brings in the foreigners, and gives them citizenship, the foreigners will always vote pap??
maybe its one way to secure votes due to an increasing number of internet savvy singaporeans.
*shrugs*
In the short-term, these people may vote out of the gratitude commonly attributed to new migrants throughout the world, but in the long run, either they will use us as a stepping stone, and move out, or they will see through the wayang.
Most of them are sharper than your average heartlander.And it is this truth that is painful, and it is something the party will regret, if it thinks that the by-product of immigration is political stability, and that it will be so.. -
Cant be bother.. Just live as the way it is.
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Another fine example of sheer political apathy here.Originally posted by Evanglion:Cant be bother.. Just live as the way it is. -
LL, very true, very sharp observation!!Originally posted by LazerLordz:You forget that these foreigners are not used to being muzzled. India, and I dare say China, has a more flourishing scene with regards to local politics and freedom of opinion, and the ability of interest groups and caucuses to pressure the state to get things done.
In the short-term, these people may vote out of the gratitude commonly attributed to new migrants throughout the world, but in the long run, either they will use us as a stepping stone, and move out, or they will see through the wayang.
Most of them are sharper than your average heartlander.And it is this truth that is painful, and it is something the party will regret, if it thinks that the by-product of immigration is political stability, and that it will be so.. -
so whose fault is that? the government? no, its the fault of our cowardly, politically apathetic, ignorant countrymen who couldn't care less about anything and continue to let themselves me manipulated and exploited by the ruling elite. if the mass majority of whom are retards have to suffer for their own actions, so be it. they've brought it upon themselves
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Just a point to mention abt "foreign talent" (FT). The other day i was at the airport queuing up at the ticketing counter to book my seat. Before i even reached the front, i alrdy noticed this "hell of a stunner" gal seated behind the booth. Guess what, when we spoke, i realised from her accent that she's from China. I wondered, "why is this job not given to a local?!?!?!"Originally posted by LazerLordz:You forget that these foreigners are not used to being muzzled. India, and I dare say China, has a more flourishing scene with regards to local politics and freedom of opinion, and the ability of interest groups and caucuses to pressure the state to get things done.
In the short-term, these people may vote out of the gratitude commonly attributed to new migrants throughout the world, but in the long run, either they will use us as a stepping stone, and move out, or they will see through the wayang.
Most of them are sharper than your average heartlander.And it is this truth that is painful, and it is something the party will regret, if it thinks that the by-product of immigration is political stability, and that it will be so..
If FTs come in because they can pass on a certain expertise or do dirty jobs eg construction and cleaning, so be it. But a job like this?
Another eg is my experience when i worked in Metro retail once. At that time in 2002, there were abt 20+ supervisors who were from China. They were distributed over all the Metro retail stores. Guess their salary a mth? $2,000. (Very high salary in the local retail scene)
Gdness! Why are FTs imported to do jobs which pay them so well? Are they gonna pass on some super skill? Why can't a S'porean auntie or uncle do the same job?
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2.see for urself the PAP's version:
Geoffrey Robertson, QC, writing last month for the Open Democracy Foundation, describes how torture was used in Singapore in the 1980s. A group of young lawyers, Catholic aid workers and women playwrights were rounded up by Singapore's Internal Security Department and detained without trial because they were suspects in an alleged Marxist conspiracy. They were not terrorists, they were political activists. The worst they seemed to have done was distribute Marxist literature.
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how to vote opposition in? the blardy election department head is one of the toadies of the ruling party..
Besides, before you can vote anyone in.. The fellas will be bankrupt for some stupid reason or be jailed for like 1 day.. They might even dig up some dark secret from ya past and destroy your credibility.. everyone has skeletons in their closets and they have this knack of diggin it up.. -
Well, Backman has a personal reason for getting personal; he was more or less expelled from Singapore in 2003 after he wrote a commentary in TODAY criticizing the lack of media freedom in Singapore. SO, he is biased, but that doesn't make what he says untrue, I think...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I wouldn't deny that this is the truth, but somehow, I feel that the last part got a bit too personal. -
really? wow. i cant believe the editors allowed it to get published then.. i think the editor must have suffered the same fate :pOriginally posted by pikamaster:Well, Backman has a personal reason for getting personal; he was more or less expelled from Singapore in 2003 after he wrote a commentary in TODAY criticizing the lack of media freedom in Singapore. SO, he is biased, but that doesn't make what he says untrue, I think... -
If the vast majority of our countrymen are retards, ignorant and are willing to be exploited, and deserve to suffer, would it be a great place for those who are smart and knowledgable to make use of such opportunities, at least make money out of them.Originally posted by vito_corleone:so whose fault is that? the government? no, its the fault of our cowardly, politically apathetic, ignorant countrymen who couldn't care less about anything and continue to let themselves me manipulated and exploited by the ruling elite. if the mass majority of whom are retards have to suffer for their own actions, so be it. they've brought it upon themselves -
in other words, they lack the guts to take a risk for a possible change for the better?Originally posted by DriftingGuy:Well you can't really blame them. Many people are risk averse and would rather stick to doing or choosing what they are familiar with, even if its something that they are not happy with.
i mean seriously, if majority of singaporeans are so gutless, they do indeed deserve to live and suffer under the thumb of the PAP. And the minority who have the guts probably deserve to leave the country for a better place. A place and a chance to be a respected 2nd class citizen than a marginalized 3rd class citizen in THEIR OWN GODAMNED COUNTRY. -
A lot of ignorant fools. Very much a stack of the stupid + pasty bin.Originally posted by HENG@:in other words, they lack the guts to take a risk for a possible change for the better?
i mean seriously, if majority of singaporeans are so gutless, they do indeed deserve to live and suffer under the thumb of the PAP. And the minority who have the guts probably deserve to leave the country for a better place. A place and a chance to be a respected 2nd class citizen than a marginalized 3rd class citizen in THEIR OWN GODAMNED COUNTRY. -
if they are, and my personal view is that they ARE, then yes they deserve to suffer. but lets be honest here. we ALL know that in singapore being smart and knowledgeable brings u nowhere, and such opportunities at the cost of the rest of the ignorants, are only open for those who are BORN into families of privilege and connection to the ruling party. So no matter how u try to angle it, singapore is not a great place even if u're smart and knowledgeable, because the privileged have a stranglehold on exploitation of the stupid.Originally posted by sgdiehard:If the vast majority of our countrymen are retards, ignorant and are willing to be exploited, and deserve to suffer, would it be a great place for those who are smart and knowledgable to make use of such opportunities, at least make money out of them. 
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to be honest, they are starting to move out of the pasty bin and into the realms of the looney bin. of course the delicious irony is that those of us who can see are the ones thought to be in the looney bin by the looney bin inhabiters.Originally posted by LazerLordz:A lot of ignorant fools. Very much a stack of the stupid + pasty bin. -
Let's go and see Rooney get binned for fighting on the pitch at WC. More fun than watching Looney.Originally posted by HENG@:to be honest, they are starting to move out of the pasty bin and into the realms of the looney bin. of course the delicious irony is that those of us who can see are the ones thought to be in the looney bin by the looney bin inhabiters. 
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him? he won't be fighting nobody, not unless his foot gets healed. speaking of which, do u know the song From Paris to Berlin by Infernal? I love that song n the MTV but they actually came up with a WC version, which is lame. -_-"Originally posted by LazerLordz:Let's go and see Rooney get binned for fighting on the pitch at WC. More fun than watching Looney. -
in a hypothetical dream world cup.Originally posted by HENG@:him? he won't be fighting nobody, not unless his foot gets healed. speaking of which, do u know the song From Paris to Berlin by Infernal? I love that song n the MTV but they actually came up with a WC version, which is lame. -_-"
what's the song about? is is some eurodance thing?