Should we try to organise a boycott of DELGRO COMFORT?
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HI MS,
SMRT the good old TIBS that provided affordable air-con bus service to the public under City Shuttle Bus.
From Leyland to Hino to Nissan Diesel affordable fare provide good service to the public. A good model for the GLC Public transport arm. -
I am from Finland, people call me santa claus, hohoho, merry christmas.Originally posted by MS:Please support your argument with proper facts.
I am from SBS Transit.
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So what....if you are from SBS Transit!!!Originally posted by MS:Please support your argument with proper facts.
I am from SBS Transit.
There are too many indirect taxes and fee charges that has driven operating cost higher!!! -
If this is true, then someone must find a way to air their dirty laundries.Originally posted by robertteh:Is it justifiable to pay civil servants or ex-MP seconded to work on public transport companies close to S$1,000,000.00 pa thereby making such public transport companies very expensive to maintain their operational costs.
It is not the oil price increases that cost the public so much. Excessive salaries paid to CEO and senior management are the main costs which should be reduced for the benefit of commuters.
Land costs should not be charged as lands were originally before corporation of transport companies into GLCs already paid by taxpayers.
It is the same as NKF refusing to admit internal high salary costs of staff which cause all the problems with high costs. Once this problem is admitted and solved by outsourcing of administration there should be no more problem with high costs.
All these while, I can't help but feel like we're all chickens laying eggs for them to collect. -
Be rationale, how can we boycott public transport like Buses and MRT..that is part of our life (except taxi) unless you walked to work.
Taxi is more for people with extra money to spend, no for common working people. Else the MRT will no be jammed with cummuters every morning.
Fuel price will kept on increasing hence transportation will definitely increase. Frankly speaking, I would think that it would be better to let the commuters decide for their own. -
I have watched the news n it says that after the increase of taxi-fares,the taxi rental fees are going to increase as well.Obviously,all the talks from the taxi companies saying the increase of the fares are actually wanted to help increase taxi drivers incomes are all bullsh!t!!![]Originally posted by qpicanto:Can somebody ask the operators especially the government-linked one, despite the sharp drop in COE and car prices, why taxi fares and rental has not been lowered ?
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The taxi companies like DELGRO only want to get more revenue from the public,and who control DELGRO?PAP(Pay And Pay)!!!!Go F**K spider Lee Kuan Yew,Goh Chok Tong and silver spoon kid Lee Hsien Loong!!!! -
I was taken aback when I read this in today papers:
'Comfort delgro's taxi- derived earnings make up the single biggest contribution to its bottom line. The group made $200 million in net profit last year - a repeat of 2004 's performance despite higher fuel costs.' -
There's a saying;
When the big old tree falls, all the monkeys in that tree shall fall with it. -
Please complain here
http://complainsingapore.blogspot.com -
Crude Oil price hoovering at USD70 per barrel.
I believe oil refinery will get big bulk discount from the oil producer.(especially oil refinery centre in singapore)
That work out to be USD70/200litres = USD0.35
USD0.35 x 1.6 = S$0.56
Cost of Refinery S$0.45 (approx) maybe lower
Total =S$1.01
Plus Govt tax 40% ( S$0.96 + S$0.384) = S$1.414 (so you can see the govt tax yields from oil price as it move up higher and higher)
retailing 40-45% gross profit (S$1.414 + S$0.57) = S$1.984 + 5% GST
Consumers pay S$2.083 per litre.(approx)
So you see the vicious and greedy world....... -
diesel prices at the designated comfort delgro pumps are less than a dollar.
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Let me say this to Delgro and all other cab operators:
The day will come, when you all have done enough of increases in Taxi fares and Taxi rentals to cab drivers, that you will have to instead reduce rentals so that PEOPLE, will come and drive your cabs.
The old generation of uncles and old men who have no other means to earn a living will now have no choice but to drive your cabs. When they all die off, the new generation will know driving your cabs can't make a living and so NO ONE will drive your cabs! Even as I speak now, there are drivers hnging up their car keys!
Just like the casinos in Singapore; when there are no more avenues, you all will have to make U-turns and make exceptions. -
COE...
Your can tell me this year on avg the price gone down by $7K a mth... Based on the 9 year stat lifespan allowed for cabs, that works out to max 2,000 cabs replaced per year... $7K 1 time off, goes down to abt $2.20 per day.. Even it's cheaper by $7K on avg now, can you garanutee that the COE prices will continue to remain at this rate for H2 06 and H1 07?
Even so, for now the rental is fixed for now, now it goes to the other component of the taxi rental scheme - Diesel cost... From 50c in 1995 to $1.10 now, it has gone up by double! For this I know you will blame the ruling party for everything, but never blame the West, Iran, North Korea for creating tensions in the global politics arena... I suggest even better go boycott esp the USA, oil producing countries by cycling on bicycle to school or to work.
Boycott Comfort??? Taking a can is deep rooted in many already, I see how the boycott can be done -
Then they will hire Bangla driversOriginally posted by ShutterBug:Let me say this to Delgro and all other cab operators:
The day will come, when you all have done enough of increases in Taxi fares and Taxi rentals to cab drivers, that you will have to instead reduce rentals so that PEOPLE, will come and drive your cabs.
The old generation of uncles and old men who have no other means to earn a living will now have no choice but to drive your cabs. When they all die off, the new generation will know driving your cabs can't make a living and so NO ONE will drive your cabs! Even as I speak now, there are drivers hnging up their car keys!
Just like the casinos in Singapore; when there are no more avenues, you all will have to make U-turns and make exceptions.
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This time around the fare increases are suppose to help Taxi Drivers to cope with increase in fuel charges.Originally posted by tiggersgd:diesel prices at the designated comfort delgro pumps are less than a dollar.
Is it any surprise that Comfort Delgro pumps are less than a dollar now, which will mean that after the next two months - the interim period for Singaporeans to recover from the increase taxi-fare shock - it will not be a surprise if Comfort-Delgro will increase the pump prices.
No prize will be given if anyone can guess who is the final beneficiary of this exercise in the increase to taxi fares - in any case, the Singaporean consumer will again be paying for another round of price increase.
Was NTUC Comfort being altruistic in helping Taxi Drivers get cheaper fuel supply, or was it to help themselves to a share of the pie that was exclusively the petroleum companies for the last few decades ? -
Originally posted by Atobe:
When the labour movement becomes the big boss, what becomes of the labour movement?
This time around the fare increases are suppose to help Taxi Drivers to cope with increase in fuel charges.
Is it any surprise that Comfort Delgro pumps are less than a dollar now, which will mean that [b]after the next two months - the interim period for Singaporeans to recover from the increase taxi-fare shock - it will not be a surprise if Comfort-Delgro will increase the pump prices.
No prize will be given if anyone can guess who is the final beneficiary of this exercise in the increase to taxi fares - in any case, the Singaporean consumer will again be paying for another round of price increase.
Was NTUC Comfort being altruistic in helping Taxi Drivers get cheaper fuel supply, or was it to help themselves to a share of the pie that was exclusively the petroleum companies for the last few decades ?
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There are only big bosses in Sgp and no labour movement. -
If this isn't SHEER STUPIDITY and GREED, I don't know what is.
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The New Paper
THE taxi fare hike is supposed to help drivers offset rising fuel prices.
--HEDY KHOO
But could it end up hurting cabbies instead?
Regular taxi commuters polled by The New Paper say they are likely to switch to taking the MRT and buses.
More than half of the 100 regular taxi users polled said they would reduce the frequency of their cab rides.
They were most turned off by the doubling in peak period surcharge from $1 to $2, affecting those who travel to work or school.
Particularly because traffic is usually heavier during the peak hours, between 7am and 9.30am, commuters felt it does not make sense to pay more to get stuck in a traffic jam.
Fifty-four of the 100 polled felt this way.
Mr Justin Zhuang, 22, an undergraduate at NTU, said: 'That increase is very steep. It's 100 per cent more.
'I am not willing to spend the extra money.'
Technician Brian Ng, 28, felt the 10-cent rise in flag-down fare is fine, but the peak surcharge hike is too much.
Property agent Eileen Lee, 29, aims to cut down on her sleep to save. She now takes the cab during peak hours at least three times a week.
'I will try my best not to take a cab because it is going to be very expensive,' said Ms Lee.
'I plan to wake up earlier in the morning to make sure that I don't miss my bus.'
One commuter said he would resort to renting a car.
Army officer See Wai Ming, 23, said: 'On days I need to go to more places, I would rather rent a car. I will take a cab only if I am very late for appointments.'
Taxi drivers have got an earful from passengers about the price hike. And they, too, are unhappy. (See other report.)
One ComfortDelGro driver, who gave his name as Mr Goh, said: 'I had a mother who told her son in my taxi that they have only a few more days to enjoy taking a cab to school.
COUNTDOWN
'It was a countdown until next Monday.'
He was skeptical about whether the fare increase will actually help drivers.
ComfortDelGro, which runs about three-quarters of the 22,000 taxis here, was the first to announce fare hikes.
This is the first fare increase in 12 years for the company.
SMRT and Premier notified the Public Transport Council (PTC) of their hikes on 3 Jul, but no details have been confirmed.
Operators must give two weeks' notice to the PTC, so their fares will go up on 17 Jul at the earliest.
Smart Automobile has said it is likely to raise fares, while Transcab will monitor the market for one or two weeks or more to see if the increases are accepted.
Mr Joseph Lim, 36, a manager, agreed with the cabbies' sentiments.
He said: 'Taxi drivers do not stand to gain from this hike unless taxi rental goes down.'
Those who take cabs at least once a week during peak hours will feel the pinch harder.
That's why more than half of them (55 per cent of 65) said they would change their transport routine to save money.
Miss Vivian Mok, 19, a polytechnic student, said: 'It gets too expensive because I take a cab every week.
'I'm going to try and arrange for my appointments to be after peak hour times.'
Will cabbies lose their more regular customers?
SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES
It remains to be seen whether their loss will be made up by passengers who cannot stop taking cabs because of special circumstances. (See report at right.)
Financial planner Tay Mong Seng, 57, has to take a cab during during peak hours when he takes his mother for medical check-ups at the hospital.
'It is the most convenient way for us because she can't move very well as she suffered from a stroke recently,' said Mr Tay.
There are also passengers who will continue to pay for the convenience and speed.
NUS undergraduate Lavinia Selvakumar, 22, said: 'I will think twice about taking the cab during peak hours but if I'm late, I have no choice.'
- Additional reporting by Amelia Tan, Melissa Pang, Ng Yao Min, Joyce Hooi and Rachel Lin
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For Comfort, CityCab and Yellow-Top taxis from Monday
FLAG-DOWN FARE
OLD
Normal taxi $2.40
Mercedes taxi $2.60
NEW
Normal taxi $2.50
Mercedes taxi $2.80
DISTANCE
OLD
1-10km
10 cents per 225m
Above 10km
10 cents per 200mNEW 1-10km
10 cents per 210m
Above 10km
10 cents per 175m
PEAK-PERIOD SURCHARGE
OLD
Mon-Sat,
7.30am-9.30am $1NEW Mon-Fri,
7am-9.30am $2No change to evening peak period: Mon-Sat, 5pm-8pm
BOOKING PRIME TIME
(when $4 surcharge applies)
OLD
Mon-Fri, 7.30am-9.30am
NEW
Mon-Fri, 7am-9.30am
No change to evening prime time: Mon-Fri, 5pm-11pm -
Ok, so now, thanks very much to Delgro, the handicap who can't switch to MRT or bus will just find living cost more.
It is just this sort of things that makes people here generally Ungracious, and self-preserving. Because they make life hard to get by!
Who else is to blame??? -
Is it cheaper to book a taxi from
Transcab Services Pte Ltd
Booking Hotline: 6287 6666
if they do not raise prices? -
It is NTUC to blame and the powers that took over NTUC and transformed it from a labour movement into a Bosses and Gahman mouthpiece.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Ok, so now, thanks very much to Delgro, the handicap who can't switch to MRT or bus will just find living cost more.
It is just this sort of things that makes people here generally Ungracious, and self-preserving. Because they make life hard to get by!
Who else is to blame??? -
We are so helpless here as a people.
Our government can dish out anything at their whim an fancy, and we CANNOT do or say anything about it!
Absolutely NO ONE, can do anything.
So we just keep towing the line, paying and paying, toil and toil till more and more people come down with hypertension, and what nought.
Nothing changed, even though LHL said he will look into reducing living costs.
Thanks to you people who helped make it 66.6%!! -
Originally posted by Atobe:
i raised the diesel pump price is not so that u guys can bash it. i stated the pump price so that u guys know its offered to the cab drivers to be an alternative towards lower operating costs and thereby they having a better take home pay.
This time around the fare increases are suppose to help Taxi Drivers to cope with increase in fuel charges.
Is it any surprise that Comfort Delgro pumps are less than a dollar now, which will mean that [b]after the next two months - the interim period for Singaporeans to recover from the increase taxi-fare shock - it will not be a surprise if Comfort-Delgro will increase the pump prices.
No prize will be given if anyone can guess who is the final beneficiary of this exercise in the increase to taxi fares - in any case, the Singaporean consumer will again be paying for another round of price increase.
Was NTUC Comfort being altruistic in helping Taxi Drivers get cheaper fuel supply, or was it to help themselves to a share of the pie that was exclusively the petroleum companies for the last few decades ?
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as of current, diesel pump prices in the open market is more than a dollar per litre.
as for ur last question on whether comfort delgro is helping cabbies to get cheaper fuel and at the same time having a lion's share to the already lucrative oil surges/profits, i guess we have to really ask around and source for information...concrete information and not something that is plucked out from the air. -
Many companies survive with losses every year because the bosses factor in their salaries and "perks" they get out of the business.
As long as the losses are less than the salaries and "perks" like free car use, the bosses are happy to continue to run the companies.
That these public service companies have the cheek to announce such obscene profits and then raise prices is obnoxious to the extreme.
It is just sheer exploitation of labour. Exploitation of the weak in society. -
Well casino_king,Originally posted by casino_king:Many companies survive with losses every year because the bosses factor in their salaries and "perks" they get out of the business.
As long as the losses are less than the salaries and "perks" like free car use, the bosses are happy to continue to run the companies.
That these public service companies have the cheek to announce such obscene profits and then raise prices is obnoxious to the extreme.
It is just sheer exploitation of labour. Exploitation of the weak in society.
That's because they know who they are, and we CANNOT object.
How long do you think this sort of dictatorship is going to last??
With every new generation, people are groing smarter, bolder, and brighter! -
Originally posted by tiggersgd:
Whether you have brought it up or not, Comfort Delgro pump price for taxi drivers is no big secret.
i raised the diesel pump price is not so that u guys can bash it. i stated the pump price so that u guys know its offered to the cab drivers to be an alternative towards lower operating costs and thereby they having a better take home pay.
as of current, diesel pump prices in the open market is more than a dollar per litre.
as for ur last question on whether comfort delgro is helping cabbies to get cheaper fuel and at the same time having a lion's share to the already lucrative oil surges/profits, i guess we have to really ask around and source for information...concrete information and not something that is plucked out from the air.
Giving two months for the Singapore Public to recover from the resentment of a Taxi Fare hike, mark my word that by about end-September 2006 Comfort-Delgro will increase its diesel fuel pump prices for Taxis.
For your information, ExxonMobil priced their diesel as follows:
Synergy-Diesel : S$1.07 per litre before increase to NEW PRICE of S$1.15 per litre - 5 January 2006.
Taxi drivers will get a whopping 22% discount from a loyalty program with ExxonMobil.
Caltex Retail Pump Prices as of 25 January 2006
Power Diesel : S$1.230 new pump price; or S$1.107 after 10 percent discount.
Singapore Petroleum Co (SPC) as of 7 January 2006
Diesel : S$1.07 old Pump Price to New Price of S$1.15 per litre.
Should the Singapore retail price be pegged to the moving averages of world crude oil prices, or should we pegged it to the moving averages of the retail prices of refined oil ?
According to the report from the International Energy Agency - Monthly Oil Market Report - on Page 33, or 7 of 19 PDF page - Singapore was reputed " to have offered the best prices across the markets, both for high and low sulphur materials. "
The markets that Singapore refined products have been compared with include that from leading Oil Trading Centres such as Rotterdam, Mediterranean, New York.
It will seem that price are dictated by market consumer demands, with the Refineries gearing their output to specifically lucrative seasonal demands, which result in an increase in price for those products that see a shortage in supply as production capacity has been transferred.
The market forces of supply and demand will find its equilibrium when capacities are switched to meet rising prices on those products that see shortages in supply or increase in demand.
It will seem that the tale of fuel price increases due to high prices of crude oil is only half of the truth.