Mr Brown's supporters protest in mrt station!
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When the public starts to condemn the police for investigating the 30 ppl supporting Mr Brown... The spokeperson will say cos SOMEONE lodged a police report ...
What can be more predictable ??? -
so now singaporeans cannot wear brown shirts?> -
Over 80 PRC PDMM protest outside Chinese Embassy. Why no one kena arrested? They r protesting against world class government for not letting them continue work as Tui-na ladies aka X X X ladies. Like tat also can.
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I read today's newpaper, says the police are currently investigating the matter and in search of the 30 people. 30 ppl who gathered at city hall mrt, not chinese embassy.
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I don't think the police will investigate much.Originally posted by ditzy:I read today's newpaper, says the police are currently investigating the matter and in search of the 30 people. 30 ppl who gathered at city hall mrt, not chinese embassy. Or was that clear enough?
Got ang mohs inside the protest group.
When it comes to ang mohs, the garhment will give more face. -
Who is that Chinese woman in the newspaper photo? The faces so clear...easy to find la..Originally posted by Cindyfeh:I don't think the police will investigate much.
Got ang mohs inside the protest group.
When it comes to ang mohs, the garhment will give more face. -
Find for what? Waste of police resources.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Who is that Chinese woman in the newspaper photo? The faces so clear...easy to find la.. More pressing issues. -
Can you blame them? The last time I told a person not to smoke in a no smoking area, he turned violent and abusive. Everyone else told me to mind my own business.Originally posted by BillyBong:The politically correct phrase is: subdued initiative.
The problem is people here are just too afraid of 'consequences' should they act on their conscience. That explains why we need 'enforcers' to fine errant smokers instead of citizens telling them off on their own.
'It's not my problem'....they say.
Apathy is truly an issue in our country. And the govt has played a supressive role in the 'brown incident'.
Its nothing to do with politics, but rather survival. Those who stand out like sore thumbs are first to get chopped when the axe swings. -
Why are people surprised about this? Its just a matter of time before Colin Goh offends our royal leeders enough and gets his turn.
Over the years, our leeders have established that singapore is not a place for personal opinions and alternative view.
Sure, you can whine about better ways of dressing, or doing your nails, but when you start to step on our leeders' toes, the question is not if they will suppress you, but when.
When the state controls the media and the judiciary, there is no longer a fear of backlash or negative opinion. -
With the govt's direction, our pursuit of money as the sole aim in life and their pursuit of continued means to siphon it, we have degraded into a mercenary society. We sacrifice ethics for richness, kindness for effrontery; we disregard rules and step on toes with impunity.Originally posted by SilverPal:Can you blame them? The last time I told a person not to smoke in a no smoking area, he turned violent and abusive. Everyone else told me to mind my own business.
Its nothing to do with politics, but rather survival. Those who stand out like sore thumbs are first to get chopped when the axe swings.
Our culture has forgotten how to hold doors for others, not to speak loudly in the library and learn patience and give way when we drive on the roads.
The govt may not have directly contributed to this, but they have certainly helped by doing NOTHING. They are paid astronomical salaries, yet Vivian Balakhrisnan demands solutions to problems from us common peasants and not empty satire.
Fee fi fo fum, who is the biggest gangster of us all? Who encourages us to speak up and provide feedback, yet lambasts us for critical satire? Who dictates what topics we can and cannot discuss? Who re-opens speakers corner, yet legislates a law that to speak on political issues, one must apply for a license?
A myriad of issues can explain why we are 'scared' of telling people off when they practice inexcusable and inconsiderate acts. We probably need another 1000 years before we mature into a gracious society. -
actually, i don't think the viv dude is capable of such stupidity..
besides, most if not all of these things that engage politically sensitive things come FROM THE PMO...
think about it
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It doesn't matter whether he is capable of such 'stupidity' or not.Originally posted by the Bear:actually, i don't think the viv dude is capable of such stupidity..
besides, most if not all of these things that engage politically sensitive things come FROM THE PMO...
think about it
Fact is he came forward and spoke on the matter. Those were his words. For him, the time is past whether or not you play the govt stooge.
The fact that he was a more 'radical' student activist in his schooling days no longer has any bearing over his attitudes today.
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soon there will not be any Brownies as a CCA in schools
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yeah..
the implication of my post was that he was a "radical" then... therefore his background would imply that he would not think much of mr brown's pretty tame satire...
however, there are forces beyond MICA who forced his hand...
and his capitulating, showed that he has lost his "radical" and "activist" cred in exchange for his current position and status, and would do anything, even as screwed up as this, in order to please his masters..
all this bodes ill for our nation..Originally posted by BillyBong:It doesn't matter whether he is capable of such 'stupidity' or not.
Fact is he came forward and spoke on the matter. Those were his words. For him, the time is past whether or not you play the govt stooge.
The fact that he was a more 'radical' student activist in his schooling days no longer has any bearing over his attitudes today.
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This shows that the whole package must be ditched, for the sake of national growth.Originally posted by SilverPal:Why are people surprised about this? Its just a matter of time before Colin Goh offends our royal leeders enough and gets his turn.
Over the years, our leeders have established that singapore is not a place for personal opinions and alternative view.
Sure, you can whine about better ways of dressing, or doing your nails, but when you start to step on our leeders' toes, the question is not if they will suppress you, but when.
When the state controls the media and the judiciary, there is no longer a fear of backlash or negative opinion.
We will not move on with such blinkers.
Think about it, if you really want to serve the nation, your pain threshold is higher and you are more able to withstand blows and expect blows.
Perhaps one day, people will understand why CSJ has to do the things he does, be it foolhardy or not. -
And who will the the first matyr for an ungrateful nation led by an even more ungrateful leeder? Who will sarcrific their, not pursuit of money but fight for survival in the face of such overwhelming opposition?Originally posted by LazerLordz:This shows that the whole package must be ditched, for the sake of national growth.
We will not move on with such blinkers.
Think about it, if you really want to serve the nation, your pain threshold is higher and you are more able to withstand blows and expect blows.
Perhaps one day, people will understand why CSJ has to do the things he does, be it foolhardy or not.
Once upona time I was very idealistic. I wanted to better MY country. After getting slapped in the face many times, called anti-establishment, I decided that, if this is not what I want, the door is always open, no one is stopping me from migrating.
I do applaud people like robertteh, atobe, chiam, slyvia for actually standing up for what they believe in, but until I can leave the clutches of those who decide my fate, I can ill afford the same fate as mr brown and csj. -
Politics is not the only field where we can improve this nation. It can come from many other fields, e.g academia or theatre too.Originally posted by SilverPal:And who will the the first matyr for an ungrateful nation led by an even more ungrateful leeder? Who will sarcrific their, not pursuit of money but fight for survival in the face of such overwhelming opposition?
Once upona time I was very idealistic. I wanted to better MY country. After getting slapped in the face many times, called anti-establishment, I decided that, if this is not what I want, the door is always open, no one is stopping me from migrating.
I do applaud people like robertteh, atobe, chiam, slyvia for actually standing up for what they believe in, but until I can leave the clutches of those who decide my fate, I can ill afford the same fate as mr brown and csj.
I'd rather groom students with similar mindsets, at least there is diffusion of ideas. -
why spore government so strict with all this kind of thing sia
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Originally posted by barhonda92:why spore government so strict with all this kind of thing sia
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In the Straits Times today, 13 July:
SINGAPOREANS will lose confidence in the Government if it does not rebut distorted views expressed in the mainstream media, said Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts Lee Boon Yang.
Dr Lee was responding to media queries yesterday about the Government's reaction to the mr brown column in MediaCorp's Today newspaper.
Full-time writer and blogger Lee Kin Mun, who writes under the monicker mr brown, commented on June 30 that hikes on taxi fares and electricity tariffs had come after the General Election and at a time when a government survey showed a widening income gap in the country.
The Minister's press secretary K. Bhavani issued a strong res- ponse which was also carried in Today. Last Friday, the freesheet's editors decided to suspend Mr Lee's column, drawing sharp criticism from bloggers and netizens.
Dr Lee said Mr Lee has made 'very unfair, unjustified comments' on key government policies and strategies as well as 'unfounded allegations' in the mass media.
'Should we just remain quiet, let it pass and treat it as just humour, laugh about it and forget about it?'
He stressed that the Government is 'duty bound' to set the record straight or these distortions 'will make it more difficult for the Government to rally Singaporeans for national objectives'.
At the end of the day, it is the ordinary folks who will suffer, he added.
In responding to Mr Lee's comments, he said the Government was merely exercising its right of reply.
If Mr Lee had posted his comments on his blog, it would be treated as 'part of the Internet chatter'.
'We understand that there will be certain elements of humour, sarcasm and cynicism expressed on the Internet and we just let it be. It is not our intention to chase after every single posting,' he added.
But the crux of the matter is that Mr Lee's comments were carried in the mainstream media, which the Government expects to be responsible, accurate and objective in its reporting.
'They must adopt the model that they're part of the nation- building effort rather than going out and purveying views that will mislead people, confuse people, which will in fact undermine our national strategy,' said Dr Lee. -
Ah I see... LBY's definition of 'rebutting' opposing views is shutting up the people who would come up with those opposing views.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:In the Straits Times today, 13 July:
SINGAPOREANS will lose confidence in the Government if it does not rebut distorted views expressed in the mainstream media, said Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts Lee Boon Yang.
Dr Lee was responding to media queries yesterday about the Government's reaction to the mr brown column in MediaCorp's Today newspaper.
Oh dear... I was a school debater once, and one of the first things I learnt was that to rebut an argument is to either provide facts that undermine the argument or to provide a counterargument with facts supporting the latter.
Typing 'define:rebut' in Google yields the following definition:
refute: overthrow by argument, evidence, or proof; "The speaker refuted his opponent's arguments"
refute: prove to be false or incorrect
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
There are several other similar definitions provided, all of them are in a similar vein. But I'll just focus on one for the sake of clarity.
So I suppose they're going to say that the Princeton definition of 'rebut' is wrong then? That to 'rebut' means to shut up the opposing side?
Truth be told, I am losing whatever remaining confidence I have in the Government from the way they're 'rebutting' Mr Brown.
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all they need to do is to correct mr brown's comment if they disagree.
why do TODAY need to suspend his column? -
We're no.140 in the world press freedom rankings mah....Originally posted by dragg:all they need to do is to correct mr brown's comment if they disagree.
why do TODAY need to suspend his column? -
sadly, no one country can truly claim to have a free press.
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I just wonder, does TNP pay Brown for his work ( writing )?