Are you happy?!?
-
We hve shared the same thought!Originally posted by ShutterBug:While it is good that Singapore and its people excels globally. But our gov shouldn't forget those who merely just wants to be able to make a living, meaning to be able to make enough to survive and save some for old age.
We are not comprised of bright and successful entrepreneurs, scholars, CEOs, and whatever. Even in motor racing, there are races for slower or lower capacity cars. Hence to say, those whose time is running out, and or who simply either don't have money or what it takes in terms of intellect to keep up and "progress together", need a way to carve out their living in a MEANINGFUL way, or in ways they know how.
From observation, if things don't change, Singapore in decades to come will be made up of foreigners, and locals of the older generation will be shipping out, cashing out their savings and living out their old age elsewhere - where the money in savings counts into larger digits. The younger generations here will be globally mobile, and can take flight anytime as they will have their nest already setup elsewhere.
Likeliness of this happening is very high.
I am 50 years old now and we hve planned to migrate to other less stressful place or countries when my son had served his bond with gov.
We dont want to be like our parents working until they drop!!!
We are not anti-gov nor opposition parties supporters but to tell the gov why we are not happy!!! -
You right!!!Originally posted by zzzdidi:We hve shared the same thought!
I am 50 years old now and we hve planned to migrate to other less stressful place or countries when my son had served his bond with gov.
We dont want to be like our parents working until they drop!!!
We are not anti-gov nor opposition parties supporters but to tell the gov why we are not happy!!!
I would do it like you if opportunity arises. S h i t place..a singapooreans with no sense of belonging!!@!
I was telling my children to find oportunities in Canada or Australia to migrate...upon settling there. Please arrange me old man to live with them together. -
i si bei du lan.
-
I've been reading many threads regarding migration to Australia or New Zealand. It's interesting that as more Singaporeans realise that the world does not centre around a tiny red dot, we are more willing to venture abroad for a relaltively better life.
Just like to share some of my mom's and my own experience concerning coming over to Sydney/Melbourne. My mom (bless her, strong lady) came over here back in 1984 when I was serving my NS and her main reason for the move was due to a lack of education (she does not have PSLE) and the high cost of running a business (yes, even back in 1986 it was expensive). She took the plunge to set up a food business in Sydney with 2 of her friends. With elementary knowledge of English she found the going very tough. Also she faced many difficulties, including being mistaken for a drug pusher and having her premises searched. Nothing happened to her as it was a case of misunderstanding and the people in charge returned personally to apologise. Good thing for them my mom didn't understand the concept of police brutality or privacy rights or she would have sued their butts off
Anyway she worked her way through the tough years and picked up English over there (she sounds sooo funny with the Aussie twang!). Expanded her business to Melbourne (where she's residing now) and got resident status after much unwillingness on the part of the Singapore CID in issuing a certificate of good conduct. She even got married to a jolly RAAF veteran recently. Now she may apply for an Aussie pp anytime she desires without having to go through Singapore authorities because of her long residency in Australia.
As for me, went over to Sydney to study after getting out of NS during the mid-80s. School fees was really CHEAP compared to Singapore uni because mom managed to obtain resident status for me as family. I think I paid about two hundred over for tuition per term, compared to about two thousand per year I would have paid for SU. The great thing was not so much the cheaper fees but the opportunities that were available. Small-time employers were always on the look-out for students in and out of term time. Remember working in an orchard, picking fruits for 12 bucks an hour, and a dive shop in Cairns for around the same rate during vacation.
Anyway, to get back to point, the whole idea of going away from Singapore is to take advantage of opportunites. I believe that there are only limited chances in Singapore. Most of my friends who stay in Singapore have more or less fixed jobs and opportunities. Maybe I'm not good at running the rat race to survive but over here in Melbourne there are plenty things that a person can do as long as you're able-bodied. Heck, even the disabled gets social support! I'm proud to say that I've not collected unemployment benefits though it's tempting and some say a given right since I'm a tax-payer too.
My personal advice to people who are contemplating leaving Singapore is this: the only limiting factor is your heart and mind. I believe that if an uneducated 40-year-old widow is able to make it here, any of you in that small island state certainly is capable! -
We hve planned for our life after 55 years old but Singapore is the country we loved for we are born here,our parents came here and built it with their sweat and blood,unless we hve no alternative ,we will not leave this country for we are still proud of as being Singaporean even though we are not happy!!!Originally posted by caramon.:I've been reading many threads regarding migration to Australia or New Zealand. It's interesting that as more Singaporeans realise that the world does not centre around a tiny red dot, we are more willing to venture abroad for a relaltively better life.
Just like to share some of my mom's and my own experience concerning coming over to Sydney/Melbourne. My mom (bless her, strong lady) came over here back in 1984 when I was serving my NS and her main reason for the move was due to a lack of education (she does not have PSLE) and the high cost of running a business (yes, even back in 1986 it was expensive). She took the plunge to set up a food business in Sydney with 2 of her friends. With elementary knowledge of English she found the going very tough. Also she faced many difficulties, including being mistaken for a drug pusher and having her premises searched. Nothing happened to her as it was a case of misunderstanding and the people in charge returned personally to apologise. Good thing for them my mom didn't understand the concept of police brutality or privacy rights or she would have sued their butts off
Anyway she worked her way through the tough years and picked up English over there (she sounds sooo funny with the Aussie twang!). Expanded her business to Melbourne (where she's residing now) and got resident status after much unwillingness on the part of the Singapore CID in issuing a certificate of good conduct. She even got married to a jolly RAAF veteran recently. Now she may apply for an Aussie pp anytime she desires without having to go through Singapore authorities because of her long residency in Australia.
As for me, went over to Sydney to study after getting out of NS during the mid-80s. School fees was really CHEAP compared to Singapore uni because mom managed to obtain resident status for me as family. I think I paid about two hundred over for tuition per term, compared to about two thousand per year I would have paid for SU. The great thing was not so much the cheaper fees but the opportunities that were available. Small-time employers were always on the look-out for students in and out of term time. Remember working in an orchard, picking fruits for 12 bucks an hour, and a dive shop in Cairns for around the same rate during vacation.
Anyway, to get back to point, the whole idea of going away from Singapore is to take advantage of opportunites. I believe that there are only limited chances in Singapore. Most of my friends who stay in Singapore have more or less fixed jobs and opportunities. Maybe I'm not good at running the rat race to survive but over here in Melbourne there are plenty things that a person can do as long as you're able-bodied. Heck, even the disabled gets social support! I'm proud to say that I've not collected unemployment benefits though it's tempting and some say a given right since I'm a tax-payer too.
My personal advice to people who are contemplating leaving Singapore is this: the only limiting factor is your heart and mind. I believe that if an uneducated 40-year-old widow is able to make it here, any of you in that small island state certainly is capable!
We had been given PR status in Australia when we were 45 years old as we are professionals in our own fields.
We have a 5 years plan to decide when we will to leave this country if there is no improvement here!!! -
Personally, what I see is that in other countries, as a citizen you are in true possession of your RIGHTS to speak your mind. If there's anything you object to, you are allowed to voice it. And if you are wrong about your opinion, you will be corrected but NOT encarcerated.
IN other countries, it may not be as safe and convenient, but at least you are at your own free will and right to survive the best you can or know how. You can defend yourself, and fend for yourself. Here in SG, we just have to take what is STIPULATED, like it or not. If you are not up to par, you're pretty much financially "dead".
These are the DIFFERENCES.
Here, in SG, teens are pressured to do well in school to the point of suicide. And yet, for those who finally made it out of Uni., find jobs scarce for them. -
Why I said s h i t place here in singapore. The whole world is facing with uncertainty at the moment. Yet, our penang born minister had unconsiderately mentioned about the much higher living cost in future that putting old people to retirement villages such Indoneisia-batam , johore..by saying that, the penang born minister might have realised he was over done in displeasing the singaporeans. After.. he switched and changed to say to deploy the old people to some isolated places in singapore.Originally posted by caramon.:I've been reading many threads regarding migration to Australia or New Zealand. It's interesting that as more Singaporeans realise that the world does not centre around a tiny red dot, we are more willing to venture abroad for a relaltively better life.
Just like to share some of my mom's and my own experience concerning coming over to Sydney/Melbourne. My mom (bless her, strong lady) came over here back in 1984 when I was serving my NS and her main reason for the move was due to a lack of education (she does not have PSLE) and the high cost of running a business (yes, even back in 1986 it was expensive). She took the plunge to set up a food business in Sydney with 2 of her friends. With elementary knowledge of English she found the going very tough. Also she faced many difficulties, including being mistaken for a drug pusher and having her premises searched. Nothing happened to her as it was a case of misunderstanding and the people in charge returned personally to apologise. Good thing for them my mom didn't understand the concept of police brutality or privacy rights or she would have sued their butts off
Anyway she worked her way through the tough years and picked up English over there (she sounds sooo funny with the Aussie twang!). Expanded her business to Melbourne (where she's residing now) and got resident status after much unwillingness on the part of the Singapore CID in issuing a certificate of good conduct. She even got married to a jolly RAAF veteran recently. Now she may apply for an Aussie pp anytime she desires without having to go through Singapore authorities because of her long residency in Australia.
As for me, went over to Sydney to study after getting out of NS during the mid-80s. School fees was really CHEAP compared to Singapore uni because mom managed to obtain resident status for me as family. I think I paid about two hundred over for tuition per term, compared to about two thousand per year I would have paid for SU. The great thing was not so much the cheaper fees but the opportunities that were available. Small-time employers were always on the look-out for students in and out of term time. Remember working in an orchard, picking fruits for 12 bucks an hour, and a dive shop in Cairns for around the same rate during vacation.
Anyway, to get back to point, the whole idea of going away from Singapore is to take advantage of opportunites. I believe that there are only limited chances in Singapore. Most of my friends who stay in Singapore have more or less fixed jobs and opportunities. Maybe I'm not good at running the rat race to survive but over here in Melbourne there are plenty things that a person can do as long as you're able-bodied. Heck, even the disabled gets social support! I'm proud to say that I've not collected unemployment benefits though it's tempting and some say a given right since I'm a tax-payer too.
My personal advice to people who are contemplating leaving Singapore is this: the only limiting factor is your heart and mind. I believe that if an uneducated 40-year-old widow is able to make it here, any of you in that small island state certainly is capable!
I wonder, our government is putting its people first or the foreigners first. By then, those people like myself who we had served our national service where we had suffered from the in-camp training and might have lost opportunities during our time in national service..or we were lack behind as compare to the PR or foreigners of the same age of advancing in career.
So....what do we get?...expensive 99 years lease HDB flats...ridiculous highly medical services, expensive utilities bills, expensive education, expensive public transportation fares (claimed to be the cheapest as compared to developed countries such as New York, Tokyo and etc),
I would dare to tell the farking mini-stars not to compare those countries as they are far much advance then sinkapoor.
Bearing the cost for 95% government services, GLC monopolised in controlling the cost of our living or basic needs.
Now, I felt that our government is more interested to show-off to the world that they the bunch of elites or extra-ordinary people in governing singapore than in treating its citizens right geniunely. -
It is really amazing to c these PDMMs and FTs be allowed here not only in public schools and can work also ,which they claimed S'pore laws permitted for when our Sporeans are umemployed and making our ends meet.Originally posted by Lowclassman:Why I said s h i t place here in singapore. The whole world is facing with uncertainty at the moment. Yet, our penang born minister had unconsiderately mentioned about the much higher living cost in future that putting old people to retirement villages such Indoneisia-batam , johore..by saying that, the penang born minister might have realised he was over done in displeasing the singaporeans. After.. he switched and changed to say to deploy the old people to some isolated places in singapore.
I wonder, our government is putting its people first or the foreigners first. By then, those people like myself who we had served our national service where we had suffered from the in-camp training and might have lost opportunities during our time in national service..or we were lack behind as compare to the PR or foreigners of the same age of advancing in career.
So....what do we get?...expensive 99 years lease HDB flats...ridiculous highly medical services, expensive utilities bills, expensive education, expensive public transportation fares (claimed to be the cheapest as compared to developed countries such as New York, Tokyo and etc),
I would dare to tell the farking mini-stars not to compare those countries as they are far much advance then sinkapoor.
Bearing the cost for 95% government services, GLC monopolised in controlling the cost of our living or basic needs.
Now, I felt that our government is more interested to show-off to the world that they the bunch of elites or extra-ordinary people in governing singapore than in treating its citizens right geniunely.
Worst still! some of them would be given PR and citizenship w/o any passion of Singapore AT ALL. Can SG gov ensures us as Sporeans they will serve our country but not using it as a stepping stone to other countries, the reason that make me think otherwise is just look at the PRC scholars who they sent overseas only 10% RETURNED TO CHINA.
Is our gov is so stupid to let these PRCs exploiting and laughing at us at latter date???? -
To be honest, this influx of FT or PRC in particular is not with choice. Looking at our own local spore birth rate statistics, it is a worrying sign for us. The low birth rate indicate we have a very small pool to elect the brilliant and best to be the spore leaders of the future. Since you cannot install a law that mandates all sporean males and females of marrying age MUST marry and MUST give birth, you have to turn elsewhere to increase that pool.Originally posted by zzzdidi:Is our gov is so stupid to let these PRCs exploiting and laughing at us at latter date????
In another way, to survive in this global economy, you need all sorts of talents to come into spore to make it vibrant and alive and of cuz hopefully those talents offspring will settle in spore and be sporeans. That is a gamble we take. However, as in all gambles, there are losses and in this case, they may just use spore as a stepping board for future migration. This cannot be avoided.
It is a catch22 situation for us. On one hand, we hope those talents will stay, on the other hand they may go too. Another problem is using what criteria do we determine a person as a talent ? Currently, it is by educational, profession experience and academic performance.
We sporeans always complain a lot but if we take a step back, sometimes we can guess the motivation behind those policies. It is a matter on how you look at this issue and like all policies there will be a group of ppl being disadvantaged and a group of ppl getting the advantage. It is always so in policies. It is too difficult to come out with perfect policies that benefit ALL parties. -
What is the points to adopt the policy and make us feel unhappy and leave the country whom the gov had spent at least 500k on them,is it worthwhile???Originally posted by sohguanh:To be honest, this influx of FT or PRC in particular is not with choice. Looking at our own local spore birth rate statistics, it is a worrying sign for us. The low birth rate indicate we have a very small pool to elect the brilliant and best to be the spore leaders of the future. Since you cannot install a law that mandates all sporean males and females of marrying age MUST marry and MUST give birth, you have to turn elsewhere to increase that pool.
In another way, to survive in this global economy, you need all sorts of talents to come into spore to make it vibrant and alive and of cuz hopefully those talents offspring will settle in spore and be sporeans. That is a gamble we take. However, as in all gambles, there are losses and in this case, they may just use spore as a stepping board for future migration. This cannot be avoided.
It is a catch22 situation for us. On one hand, we hope those talents will stay, on the other hand they may go too. Another problem is using what criteria do we determine a person as a talent ? Currently, it is by educational, profession experience and academic performance.
We sporeans always complain a lot but if we take a step back, sometimes we can guess the motivation behind those policies. It is a matter on how you look at this issue and like all policies there will be a group of ppl being disadvantaged and a group of ppl getting the advantage. It is always so in policies. It is too difficult to come out with perfect policies that benefit ALL parties.
Sporeans are unhappy which has given a very clear signal to our gov,pls do somethings!!!.I dont like to bring along my son and future daughter who are both trainee docs migrate to overseas after 5 years.
Are u sure these PDMMs and FTs have the necessary academic qualifications and experiance??? Pls look into the recent ah hou's and recent AMK murder cases and TV telecasts to let me know the facts.They are not the talents but a bunch of thieves/pro and sucking our S$,the real talents will be in USA,we are attracting flies.la.
Sg gov ,we urge u to treasure our local talents and not treat us as a second class citizen for this is our country,we born here but not these "FTs" -
As posted in my earlier post elsewhere, the implementation details of this policy is VERY BAD but the intention of the policy was good IMO. So for your argument it is true that misguided processes and procedures let in a lot of under-qualified PDMM and FT. That is why I hope to see a review of this policy within THIS YEAR!Originally posted by zzzdidi:Are u sure these PDMMs and FTs have the necessary academic qualifications and experiance??? Pls look into the recent ah hou's and recent AMK murder cases and TV telecasts to let me know the facts.They are not the talents but a bunch of thieves/pro and sucking our S$,the real talents will be in USA,we are attracting flies.la.
Sg gov ,we urge u to treasure our local talents and not treat us as a second class citizen for this is our country,we born here but not these "FTs"
As for foreign talent, a lot of ppl treat Spore as a stepping stone but do we have a choice? We are using this technique like say let in 100 and hopefully about 5 - 10 of them stay in Spore convert be Sporeans and their offspring contribute to our nation in future. With this pool of offspring PLUS our own local sporean offspring, we may have a healthy pool to choose the brilliant and bright to be Spore future leaders.
Of cuz in this process, a lot of citizens are hurt (as in jobs taken by them etc) but looking at the nation big picture, it seems cannot be avoided. Only way for local Sporeans is to upgrade your skillset to be as good as FT lor. Or maybe can consider migrate to Msia hehehehe where their country look after their citizens more hehehee....
-
Hallo!!! This is our country Singapore and not PRC,mind U!!!Originally posted by sohguanh:As posted in my earlier post elsewhere, the implementation details of this policy is VERY BAD but the intention of the policy was good IMO. So for your argument it is true that misguided processes and procedures let in a lot of under-qualified PDMM and FT. That is why I hope to see a review of this policy within THIS YEAR!
As for foreign talent, a lot of ppl treat Spore as a stepping stone but do we have a choice? We are using this technique like say let in 100 and hopefully about 5 - 10 of them stay in Spore convert be Sporeans and their offspring contribute to our nation in future. With this pool of offspring PLUS our own local sporean offspring, we may have a healthy pool to choose the brilliant and bright to be Spore future leaders.
Of cuz in this process, a lot of citizens are hurt (as in jobs taken by them etc) but looking at the nation big picture, it seems cannot be avoided. Only way for local Sporeans is to upgrade your skillset to be as good as FT lor. Or maybe can consider migrate to Msia hehehehe where their country look after their citizens more hehehee....
U have misled us to believe that we can attract these FTs who can help to progress our country, but in real life, we have only how many % of so called real FTs ,we can attract only flies here.
An very interesting fact is our gov tried to attract HK ppls to come here in 1997 ,yet we hve taxi drivers etc come here to take away our jobs and created a property bubble. In addtition, we built so many HDB flats supposed to cater for these "FTs" but they came and left when the dirt had settled in HK,our poor gov could not sell the flats and scrape the maga Puggol 21 project.
Had we stil not learned the previous mistake and continue to give PR and citizenship to these so called 'FTs" -
If you dislike this FT policy then can you say all the jobs in spore are and can be done by local sporeans? If you can say we local Sporeans can do all the jobs that FT do, then I would be inclined to be on your side.Originally posted by zzzdidi:Had we stil not learned the previous mistake and continue to give PR and citizenship to these so called 'FTs"
The reality is for some profession, we need those FT. I am in IT programming line and I can tell you not a lot of local Sporeans like programming. They prefer to do systems analysis and co-ordinating related job and shun from coding work. So who in the end does the job? Indian China and even Malaysians!!!! Similarly in renovation contraction work, we see so many Indian China and Malaysians too while the Sporeans do the talk abt pricing and quotes etc stuf... Hands on stuff are delegated to FT !
Of cuz you may argue renovation FT are different class from IT FT but the concept is same! Local sporeans wanna do the job or not? If do, can you do a good job? These are just some questions to ponder.
I have yet to talk abt the nursing FT too.... local spore nurse willing to clean up shit and urine left by bed-ridden patient? Bathe them and clothe them? Clear their vomit etc stuff? And I believe in all other profession, FT cannot be avoided if local sporeans not willing to do the job. -
The topic here is ARE U HAPPY!!!Originally posted by sohguanh:If you dislike this FT policy then can you say all the jobs in spore are and can be done by local sporeans? If you can say we local Sporeans can do all the jobs that FT do, then I would be inclined to be on your side.
The reality is for some profession, we need those FT. I am in IT programming line and I can tell you not a lot of local Sporeans like programming. They prefer to do systems analysis and co-ordinating related job and shun from coding work. So who in the end does the job? Indian China and even Malaysians!!!! Similarly in renovation contraction work, we see so many Indian China and Malaysians too while the Sporeans do the talk abt pricing and quotes etc stuf... Hands on stuff are delegated to FT !
Of cuz you may argue renovation FT are different class from IT FT but the concept is same! Local sporeans wanna do the job or not? If do, can you do a good job? These are just some questions to ponder.
I have yet to talk abt the nursing FT too.... local spore nurse willing to clean up shit and urine left by bed-ridden patient? Bathe them and clothe them? Clear their vomit etc stuff? And I believe in all other profession, FT cannot be avoided if local sporeans not willing to do the job.
We are not talking about the nature of the jobs which we can do or not!!!
We,S'poreans are not happpy,why???
Our salaries earned can't cope with the cost of living in S'pore,worst still we are worrying that we lost our jobs.in addition,our efforts and contributions to the society are not recognised and be treated as second class citizen in our own country. -
Ok I get your point. You are very dis-satisfied in Spore. That is ok. I will pray for your safe migration to other places. Best wishes and good luck in your future endeavors in foreign landsOriginally posted by zzzdidi:The topic here is ARE U HAPPY!!!
We are not talking about the nature of the jobs which we can do or not!!!
We,S'poreans are not happpy,why???
Our salaries earned can't cope with the cost of living in S'pore,worst still we are worrying that we lost our jobs.in addition,our efforts and contributions to the society are not recognised and be treated as second class citizen in our own country.
Btw, u are how many years away to migrating away from Spore? Can reveal? -
Can all of the dissatified s'poreans migrate to other countries???Originally posted by sohguanh:Ok I get your point. You are very dis-satisfied in Spore. That is ok. I will pray for your safe migration to other places. Best wishes and good luck in your future endeavors in foreign lands
Btw, u are how many years away to migrating away from Spore? Can reveal?
S'pore is our country not belonging 2 u alone.
If there is no improvment in term of living std in Spore, I think there will be a revolutuion as water has been boiling and it will explode ,if gov do nothings now. -
Well, me's happy in my own ways, so does everyone else...
-
I do not think that such a thing as a revolution can occur in Singapore, especially when CONTROL here is very very TIGHT. And personally, I DO NOT condone to any kind of retaliation, demonstration, revolution in any form, as this will economically destabilize our country and make living, much worst.Originally posted by zzzdidi:Can all of the dissatified s'poreans migrate to other countries???
S'pore is our country not belonging 2 u alone.
If there is no improvment in term of living std in Spore, I think there will be a revolutuion as water has been boiling and it will explode ,if gov do nothings now.
However, I do encourage people to speak up their minds and provide feedback by way of forums, word of mouth, and especially make themselves count in every future GE. Let PAP know, they are continuously losing supporters if they don't pay attention to the very people they rule over.
Agreeably, not everyone can AFFORD to migrate. Those who intends to are now just saving up for the grand move. But if our gov learns to be HUMBLE on time and make these changes, people will be more than glad to stay on instead. -
Agreed for the time being!!Originally posted by ShutterBug:I do not think that such a thing as a revolution can occur in Singapore, especially when CONTROL here is very very TIGHT. And personally, I DO NOT condone to any kind of retaliation, demonstration, revolution in any form, as this will economically destabilize our country and make living, much worst.
However, I do encourage people to speak up their minds and provide feedback by way of forums, word of mouth, and especially make themselves count in every future GE. Let PAP know, they are continuously losing supporters if they don't pay attention to the very people they rule over.
Agreeably, not everyone can AFFORD to migrate. Those who intends to are now just saving up for the grand move. But if our gov learns to be HUMBLE on time and make these changes, people will be more than glad to stay on instead. -
Those that speak up for the unhappy Singaporean like Mr Borwn is now being prevented from publishing his humourous view in the newspaper. Mr. Neil Humphrey used to sing praises for sg is now going to migrate to Oz, believe he also have enough of gahment.
Those that put in effort to change sg to a better and truly wonderful place had been put to silence. The so call talented scholars created policies in their ivory towers and missed the deep cry of the people. There is definitely a mismatch and the growing social problems; like maid abuse, ugly neighbour, weapon dealing, unhappiness...etc are the beginning of society that is going to collapse.
Enough is enough, it is the people and citizen that had contribute much to the economy should be taken care of by the government. Not the other way around, FT, PDMM etc able to protest and get away scotch free. Sgrean protest in a humor way and that it. Three MP will condemn him in public media even when he speak the truth.
If sgrean treated like 2nd class in their own country. Hmm migrate seem like a good idea after all. -
I think we hve to give this new Gov team to prove their worth!!!Originally posted by adven7:Those that speak up for the unhappy Singaporean like Mr Borwn is now being prevented from publishing his humourous view in the newspaper. Mr. Neil Humphrey used to sing praises for sg is now going to migrate to Oz, believe he also have enough of gahment.
Those that put in effort to change sg to a better and truly wonderful place had been put to silence. The so call talented scholars created policies in their ivory towers and missed the deep cry of the people. There is definitely a mismatch and the growing social problems; like maid abuse, ugly neighbour, weapon dealing, unhappiness...etc are the beginning of society that is going to collapse.
Enough is enough, it is the people and citizen that had contribute much to the economy should be taken care of by the government. Not the other way around, FT, PDMM etc able to protest and get away scotch free. Sgrean protest in a humor way and that it. Three MP will condemn him in public media even when he speak the truth.
If sgrean treated like 2nd class in their own country. Hmm migrate seem like a good idea after all.
If there is no improvement in term of cost of living here after 4 years then we will cast a valid vote to throw them out!!!If we cannot do it,by 2100,my family members will leave for other country and thank gov for bringing up my doc son. -
Looking at the posts from the threads, i think wat the bear said is true
The complaints of people here r mainly about money, money and money.
And they link all their misfortunes with the goverment
Seriously speaking, it is a sign tat developed countries r the least happy. America, despite being the richest country as well as having the most welfare etc, they still r not happy. In fact I do not see why they r unhappy given they r probably the best country to be born in. The problem lies on the attitude of the people, not the amount of money they have.
U want FT to go out, overall singapore loses because competition is not localised but worldwide. Talents go to other country and spoilt the market for singapore. (BTW a lot of developed countries have FT policy too) U want tax to go down, then u have to find ways to fund the lost tax.
U think other country is more relaxing, tat may be true. If u wanna migrate, then do go. -
Our "misfortunes"Originally posted by stupidissmart:Looking at the posts from the threads, i think wat the bear said is true
The complaints of people here r mainly about money, money and money.
And they link all their misfortunes with the goverment
Seriously speaking, it is a sign tat developed countries r the least happy. Despite being the richest country as well as having the most welfare etc, they still r not happy. In fact I do not see why they r unhappy given they r probably the best country to be born in. The problem lies on the attitude of the people, not the amount of money they have.
U want FT to go out, overall singapore loses because competition is not localised but worldwide. Talents go to other country and spoilt the market for singapore. (BTW a lot of developed countries have FT policy too) U want tax to go down, then u have to find ways to fund the lost tax.
U think other country is more relaxing, tat may be true. If u wanna migrate, then do go.
Spore the richest country???
The most welfare ??? cant even compare with Hk
Who said we want FTs out??? THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY WAT WE WANT TO PROGRESS OUR COUNTRY!!!DO U WANT A BUNCH OF THIEVES AND PRO LIKE THESE PDMMS!!!!
WHO R U TO ASK US GO? IF THIS IS THE ATTITUDE OF OUR GOV WE WANT THEM TO GO FIRST!!!
-
While FTs are good for our economy, but what I'd like to see is some form of FILTERING so that we don't get all sorts of vice and crooks coming in.
Our gov should validate and verify these so called PDMMs; have them prove how they are going to support the child's education in Singapore.
Right now, it's like the door is thrown wide open for all from China, and so we get all sorts coming here.
And like I've said, if our gov continues to favor FTs, it will SURELY accumulate more negativity in the next GE. -
Spore the richest country???
I am talking about america. Please read back the post againWho said we want FTs out??? THE QUESTION IS ARE THEY WAT WE WANT TO PROGRESS OUR COUNTRY!!!DO U WANT A BUNCH OF THIEVES AND PRO LIKE THESE PDMMS!!!!
Now tis sounds a bit contradictory... on one hand u r saying u do not want them to pogress for our nation then on the other hand u say u do not want them out. U want them in or u want them out ?WHO R U TO ASK US GO? IF THIS IS THE ATTITUDE OF OUR GOV WE WANT THEM TO GO FIRST!!!
Frankly I do not have any malicious intent when I suggest people to migrate if they find singapore too stressful. IMO I also felt singapore is too stressful and migrating out is a good way to improve the standard of life. If tat is wat u felt, then really, migrate. Do not treat tat statement negatively