Is Singapore overcrowded?
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It's pure greed, the problem is.Originally posted by Wega007:propose a new theory and have Economist accept that and U will be the next Nobel Prize winner!
by saying Flawed Flawed and no solution still like that.
U think those Economist Baka? It is too complex to offer a solution that everyone will agree on.
How much is enough for our gov? How much further "developed" must Singapore become?
I mean, look, advancement is one thing good to have, but with too much and continuous advancements, naturally costs will go up and with it other complications - such as high local labor costs resulting in FTs.
Medical Hub; our gov lauded that we're the first in so many medical breakthroughs, but when a simple pneumonea outbreak occured, hospitals were short of beds!!!
What I see is that the more we advanced and or developed, the higher costs of living becomes. I'm not saying that we should shun progress in its many aspects, but are all these "progressions" giving us better living?? Think about it; young families with no time they need hire maids, lifestyles of younger generations so financially stressful they can't maintain their aged parents.
Those who simply cannot so call upgrade their skill sets, have to slog away in an inflation bound economy, or eventually become casualties of the "New Economy".
There is no solution to this problem of greed. Only thing left is - scale back.
It's like driving a car; if you drive a small car with a humble engine capacity beyond its highest speed for too long, something or some part of its engine is going to give. -
Each National Day speech, we are told to knuckle down for more rough rides.
How much further, are they going to stretch us, with Singapore's land space so limited??? -
economist makes a lo of assumptions before developing a model.
I am sick of having to "knuckle down" and try to survive another day, doing "more with less" when I see those well fed fat cats robbing us blind and telling us to put up with more crap as there is and never will be any help coming forward since we gave them the strong mandate.
I hope that with 7 million people, Singapore will sink to the bottom of the ocean. -
pl read 6.5m people in 2015 & Plenty of Land
we have plenty of land to be developed.
our density per km2 may be one of the top.pl dunt buy this ivory
mind set figure.
u have to compared the Developed area,not the gross
country area.
Hong Kong population is 6.9m,60% higher than spore.But
her developed area is
only about 260km2
.i remember spore developed area is higher than HK.
Thats why our HDB flat is so big.
for example,spore is the 4th most
density in the world,but i am sure our living area per capita and
physical living condition in general is much better than
14 th TAIWAN and 30th Japan.
Most of u guys sure know we have much much better the HONG KONG,
though on the figure HK is 1 % more densly than Spore.
Say water,UN classify Spore is one of the 10 worst in water
resoucesr.Have u experienced any restrictions?
read news how people in Aussie and UK have to face restriction
in using water. -
Economics or no economics...I'm getting outta here...its so stifling, overcrowded, hot and plain sweaty to stay in Sillypore....
And they think they can accommodate 8 million comfortably...All the social problems will definitely come in will overcrowding...and all the while telling us that life will get better, more greenery.....my foot! -
bangkok isn't
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i aint too sure about how much more spare land singapore has for singaporeans but i do see that we do not have aedquate resources to satisfy enough singaporeans, thus why produce more?
metaphorically, u can have the space of entire classroom, but only two desks for 10 pupils. is this overcrowding?
of course, we can furnish more desks in future. but until then, let's accommodate only the capacity of what you can provide. -
In that case, almost everyone living on Earth have this issue. need to minus the Monks and Nuns perhaps and a few person out there.Originally posted by ShutterBug:It's pure greed, the problem is.
How much is enough for our gov? How much further "developed" must Singapore become?
I mean, look, advancement is one thing good to have, but with too much and continuous advancements, naturally costs will go up and with it other complications - such as high local labor costs resulting in FTs.
Medical Hub; our gov lauded that we're the first in so many medical breakthroughs, but when a simple pneumonea outbreak occured, hospitals were short of beds!!!
What I see is that the more we advanced and or developed, the higher costs of living becomes. I'm not saying that we should shun progress in its many aspects, but are all these "progressions" giving us better living?? Think about it; young families with no time they need hire maids, lifestyles of younger generations so financially stressful they can't maintain their aged parents.
Those who simply cannot so call upgrade their skill sets, have to slog away in an inflation bound economy, or eventually become casualties of the "New Economy".
There is no solution to this problem of greed. Only thing left is - scale back.
It's like driving a car; if you drive a small car with a humble engine capacity beyond its highest speed for too long, something or some part of its engine is going to give.
Maybe 1 day we will end up like the the earlier Developed Countries like Sweden, Finland, Norway or even Japan in the future.
If u think pure greed is only problem, what kind of scaling back solution do U propose to make everyone happy? Just state no solution is no help, just complain is no help. Since it is human nature, maybe changing the mindset of many that aim for higher pay, bigger bonus, if u are boss, think of sharing. If U are currently setting an example to the nation, I hope those around U learn from example. If thats not the way to go, think of brainwashing methods that other countries are using. If not... quit complaining... and think harder..
I am stupid.. only can say so much unless stuff.. -
So where U running to? Oz? USA? Canada? Europe? remember to share!Originally posted by Coquitlam:Economics or no economics...I'm getting outta here...its so stifling, overcrowded, hot and plain sweaty to stay in Sillypore....
And they think they can accommodate 8 million comfortably...All the social problems will definitely come in will overcrowding...and all the while telling us that life will get better, more greenery.....my foot! -
Typical P@P thinking. Why can't people highlight issues that they think its wrong and maybe with collective collaboration, a solution might be reached? Pure whining and bitching is not constructive, granted, but there are times when those bearing the brunt of the issue is not in position to solve the issue.Originally posted by Wega007:...
Just state no solution is no help, just complain is no help. If U are currently setting an example to the nation, I hope those around U learn from example. If not... quit complaining... and think harder..
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If the P@Pman ran computer tech support, when you call them:
wega: Hi, my printer can't print.
P@P: Do you have a solution? If you don't have one, then don't call up just to whine. If you have a solution, then you should do it yourself, I'm not here to spoonfeed you. If you can't solve it, then move one. We'd also like you to fill up the service satisfaction form at our website.
wega: thanks.
According to your way, you should not complain about creative mp3 players being lousy unless you can build a better one. You should not complain about movies being lousy, unless you can produce a better film. And unless you can cook well, don't even complain about food.
Your life must be wonderful, since you don't have anything to complain about huh? -
Good one!!!!Originally posted by SilverPal:Typical P@P thinking. Why can't people highlight issues that they think its wrong and maybe with collective collaboration, a solution might be reached? Pure whining and bitching is not constructive, granted, but there are times when those bearing the brunt of the issue is not in position to solve the issue.
If the P@Pman ran computer tech support, when you call them:
wega: Hi, my printer can't print.
P@P: Do you have a solution? If you don't have one, then don't call up just to whine. If you have a solution, then you should do it yourself, I'm not here to spoonfeed you. If you can't solve it, then move one. We'd also like you to fill up the service satisfaction form at our website.
wega: thanks.
According to your way, you should not complain about creative mp3 players being lousy unless you can build a better one. You should not complain about movies being lousy, unless you can produce a better film. And unless you can cook well, don't even complain about food.
Your life must be wonderful, since you don't have anything to complain about huh?
These Gods sometimes I think they are arguing 4 the sick of it!!!
we paid ministers to earn such a high salary who know only to build Casino 2 resolve the issues.pay me 1% of their salay I also know the evil thing,lah.
We are not paid to come out with a solution which it is the job of ministers!!! -
Below is an article on China's "Booming Economy".Originally posted by Wega007:In that case, almost everyone living on Earth have this issue. need to minus the Monks and Nuns perhaps and a few person out there.
Maybe 1 day we will end up like the the earlier Developed Countries like Sweden, Finland, Norway or even Japan in the future.
If u think pure greed is only problem, what kind of scaling back solution do U propose to make everyone happy? Just state no solution is no help, just complain is no help. Since it is human nature, maybe changing the mindset of many that aim for higher pay, bigger bonus, if u are boss, think of sharing. If U are currently setting an example to the nation, I hope those around U learn from example. If thats not the way to go, think of brainwashing methods that other countries are using. If not... quit complaining... and think harder..
I am stupid.. only can say so much unless stuff..
I view it much like burning their candle at both ends...
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China's economy
Too much, too fast?
August 11, 2006
THE Chinese economy has been expanding at its fastest pace in a decade.
Yet, government officials and economic experts warned that measures would be needed to rein in growth that had galloped along at an 11.3 per cent pace in the second quarter.
For many Chinese, the sizzling economy is an opportunity, not a problem, the International Herald Tribune (IHT) reported.
Beijing engineer Wang Lijun, who owns a business supplying engineers to the petroleum industry said: 'So far it is good for me. There are lots of projects going on. If I had more money, I could grow faster.'
And for many Chinese like Ms Wang, times have never been better.
But the authorities in Beijing and experts in financial capitals say there are signals that China's economy is in danger of racing out of control.
They are concerned about the accelerating investment in apartment buildings, shopping malls, roads, steel mills, factories, mines, ports and theme parks, reported the IHT.
Mr Jim Walker, chief economist with a Hong Kong research firm CLSA Asia Pacific Markets said: 'When you have a period of rampant economic growth, as China has, there tends to be a pretty sharp correction at the end of that.
'China could see an extremely sharp slowdown.'
And with the huge amount of foreign investment in China, that slowdown would be felt around the world.
The consensus among economists is that growth will hit a bump, but not that dramatically.
Some, however, disagree.
Several experts say it is difficult to anticipate what might happen, since no one has seen anything quite like the Chinese economy.
The Chinese government recently took steps to slow the economy, including increased reserve requirements for commercial banks aimed at reducing the funds available for lending.
It also imposed restrictions on foreign investment in property to curb speculation, and reduced incentives for exporters in a bid to narrow the trade surplus.
And with China's President Hu Jintao and Prime Minister Wen Jiabao calling for a brake on growth, most experts expect further tightening.
But it is uncertain if the spending spree of local governments, who control much of the country's economic activity, will follow the national effort in trying to rein in the economy.
Most analysts expect further rate increases, but there are doubts if they will slow an economy flushed with money.
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Probe on officials who approve new projects
In a bid to curb overheated investment, the State Council has given local governments one month to report new industrial projects that have been approved against national rules, reported the China Daily.
The National Development and Reform Commission unveiled the central government circular last Friday, which ordered local authorities to self-examine projects launched between January and June. Local authorities have until end August to report their final results.
The ultimatum aims to halt some projects that fail to meet industry policies, land and credit approval procedures and environmental regulations, said a senior official with the commission. -
So much for those China apologetics..
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Here, lets end this thread:
Q >> Is Singapore Over Crowded?
A >> No. Just TOO MANY foreigners here. -
The answer should be there are so many foreign flies here.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Here, lets end this thread:
Q >> Is Singapore Over Crowded?
A >> No. Just TOO MANY foreigners here. -
in time to come can fight with china
haha