Assault 'a civil case', so no police action
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The investigators investigating themselves!
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Yeah...these are laws of singapore...it can be interpreted in many ways....if you offended some big a s s ..the laws will interpret in his favor to save himself or to put someone into deeper s h i t !!!Originally posted by BillyBong:Unlawful assembly can be interpreted in many ways.
As an enforcer of the law, the police are expected to be able to apply both lenient and stringent connotations where applicable.
In packed areas, it makes absolutely no sense for police to question every group > 5. Not only does it make them look silly, it makes the law itself look stupid outright.
When a gang of 6 beat up a defenceless individual, obviously the public will expect the police to act, and act swiftly to deter other would-be aggressors. Failing to do so would mean our police are weak and lack the will to enforce the letter of the law in such circumstances.
After all, our police force are always preaching prevention rather than reaction.
This case highlights their hopelessness and failure to act as required. -
yeah.. seems like we're just workhorses to the govt...Originally posted by Devil1976:Yeah right... That's why people are complaining Singaporeans are already losing their rights as citizens... We always hear Singaporeans should do now... Singaporeans should do that... But have the gahment really genuinely care and bother about what the people need and the people want...? Or just because they holds the 'mandate' in their hands then they can walk around half-blind to the things happening around them...?
Just because they don't have to squeeze themselves in the packed bus and MRT... Don't have to worry about tax (which would ultimately rounds back into their renumeration).... Don't have to worry about themselves being beaten up and assaulted in the public..
'Police' is now just another form of 'internal military force' controlled by the gahment.. PAID by US.... But is ALMOST of no service or value to us nowadays...
If you're not happy, what you gonna do...? Complain and sue them...?
Come on... We know that often only RICH people can afford to pay for those documents to throw you in your face...
If you're just a beggar by the streets... People come and just beat you up, what you wanna do about it...?? SUE THEM...?? WELCOME to the STREETS and CITY of CHAOS & CORRUPTIONS man....
SOON your 'MANDATE' is gonna be building you a country that you can barely breathe and even the foreigners would CONSIDER TWICE before giving birth...
Enjoy the 'SUN' while it's still around okie...?
But do understand that not all P.Os, be it regulars or conscripts, are sleeping on the job and getting paid for nothing. There are many officers who go the extra mile just to make your neighbourhood a better place to live in, in aspects you do not see...
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wow.. post election customer service.
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Sad that all the police look into these days are white elephants and people wearing brown T shirts.
Investigate a beating by a gang of ruffians? Too much paperwork and no chance of gaining any proper recognition from the head honchos. So don't bother lah. -
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still investigating?
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Investigating the assualt, might be.Originally posted by www:still investigating?
Investigating why police isn't investigating at first, i doubt so -
SAD but TRUE.... Just TWISTING of WORDS for the FAMED, RICH and POWERFUL... CORRUPTION DESIGNED and MANIFESTED in one of its murky EVILS.....Originally posted by Lowclassman:Yeah...these are laws of singapore...it can be interpreted in many ways....if you offended some big a s s ..the laws will interpret in his favor to save himself or to put someone into deeper s h i t !!! -
Originally posted by Sagara:
UNDERSTOOD. But sometimes it's just HARD to put on a FIGHT alone...?
yeah.. seems like we're just workhorses to the govt...
But do understand that [b]not all P.Os, be it regulars or conscripts, are sleeping on the job and getting paid for nothing. There are many officers who go the extra mile just to make your neighbourhood a better place to live in, in aspects you do not see... [/b] -
Police explain actions taken in assault case
Aug 16, 2006
The Straits Times
POLICE empathise with the plight of Ms Liew Sok Kuan's brother ('Assault 'a civil case', so no police action'; ST, Aug
and would like to apologise for the unpleasant experience that he had with our officers who first attended to the case.
We would like to clarify that we have been in contact with Ms Liew and her brother since the case was first reported, and have been updating him on our investigations.
Police received a call from Dr Liew at 12.05am on April 15 reporting the assault and that the assailants had already left on motorcycles. Though he mentioned that an ambulance was not required, the nearest available officers were despatched immediately, followed by paramedics.
At the same time, all officers on the ground were alerted to look out for motorcycles bearing the two registration numbers that Dr Liew provided to our operator.
On arrival at about 12.25am, the police officers were informed by Dr Liew that two men from a group of six to eight had punched him - once in the face, and once in the stomach. He was observed to be bleeding from the nose.
Based on the initial information given, the case was classified as voluntarily causing hurt under Section 323 of the Penal Code. However, such a case requires a magistrate's authorisation before the police can exercise full powers of investigation. Dr Liew was given a police medical-report form and a referral letter to lodge a complaint with the magistrate.
He was, however, advised to contact the investigation officer should his medical examination reveal any fracture or other serious injury as the case may then fall under a different classification.
Our officers also proceeded to conduct enquiries at the scene.
Later that same morning, Dr Liew visited a neighbourhood police centre and provided his medical report, which indicated a fracture. This development was communicated to the investigation officer, who then reclassified the case that very same day to voluntarily causing grievous hurt (under Section 325) which did not require the lodging of a magistrate's complaint.
Dr Liew was informed that the case had been reclassified. Ms Liew also called the investigation officer at about 9pm the same evening and the officer informed her that police were investigating.
The Head of Investigation also spoke and wrote to Ms Liew and her brother to assure them of police action a few days later, following written appeals she had sent.
We acknowledge that our responding officers at the scene should have treated the incident more seriously, based on the circumstances that led to the assault. Had this been done, it would have been unnecessary for Dr Liew to be advised that he needed to make an application to a magistrate.
Nevertheless, this lapse has not compromised the investigation. The leads provided by Dr Liew were followed up on. One of the motorcycle numbers was invalid and the nearest match was established to be unrelated to the case, while the owner of the other motorcycle was identified and assisted in the investigation.
An identification parade had also been arranged for Dr Liew. We will continue to keep him updated on the investigations.
Audrey Ang (Ms)
Assistant Director
(Media Relations)
Singapore Police Force
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CASE GRAVER THAN WAY IT WAS TREATED
We acknowledge that our responding officers at the scene should have treated the incident more seriously, based on the circumstances that led to the assault on Dr Liew.
So the police are writing it off as misjudgement on the part of their officers, but insist action was taken at the scene; the only exception was that it was woefully inadequate.
Considering how govt agencies close ranks and protect themselves, i doubt that any disciplinary action will be taken against the pair of officers in question. -
You know, it sounds so RETARDED that in order to pursue a case of assault, the Police needs to see if there are any fractures????
WTF!
They mean to say that if I go out now, pick anyone on the street and punch him one on the face enough to cause pain but no fractures I get away with it???
Sounds like a friggin' Smoke Screen to cover up STUPIDITY to me!
Typical of them to pull out all the Red Tapes just to appear righteous!
FxxK man!
You God Damn gather in 4 oustide any place and you'd be hauled in for illegal assembly without citing any stupid Red Tapes man!
What the CRAP!
Aiyaa don't TCSS.... -
What did say earlier... I'm going to laugh my head off at whatever dumb excuse the spokesperson gives. And truly, I'm going to die of laughter soon.
Welcome to Singapore. If you do get confronted and assaulted by superior numbers, hope that your bones get broken. Otherwise, you must handle the criminals on your own.
Have a pleasant stay. -
That's the problem with our bureaucracy.
When procedure becomes red tape, it becomes almost impossible to perform a straight forward task.
Does it make sense to hand a victim who has just been beaten up a referral form and ask him to make a magistrate's complaint?
Why was the victim given the runaround? Worse, aren't the paramedics capable of inspecting the victim to determine if there were fractures (if that was required to properly classify the case) and give an immediate assessment of the injury inflicted?
Does it really require a professional medical opinion for the police to acknowledge that a serious injury was deliberately caused? Shouldn't common sense suffice?
Does it take so much trouble and paperwork just to ascertain that a CRIME was committed?
Seems to me like the victim is the one being punished with administrative procesure while the crooks got away scot free. By now they're probably drinking in JB to the grand stupidity of our boys in blue. -
The last time I made a police report, I was made to wait 30 minutes despite the fact the damned station was practically empty. And after I made my report, they made me fill up a customer service ffedback form on the spot!
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Ok, lets say he gets killed on the spot.
Do they need their own special doctor to PROOF and VARIFY that he is REALLY dead before classify as Murder?
WT - F!! -
Bluddy hell.. MP gets a punch, the old man gets wisked away immediately to the Stattion.
If this isn't PREJUDICE, I don't know WHAT is!
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its whether they want to check up or investigate only. see the huang na case. they also can solve it. if you really want help, send to newpaper. the head will feel bad and embarased and they will lan lan help u 1. because newpaper alot of people read. then the police more pressurized.
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That is highly possible.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Ok, lets say he gets killed on the spot.
Do they need their own special doctor to PROOF and VARIFY that he is REALLY dead before classify as Murder?
WT - F!!
I actually read that if a murderer cannot be identified, a murder case would be reclassified as unnatural death instead of murder. Can anyone substantiate this claim? -
Why don't someone in here go check out how the Police in New York operate?
If they had as much BS red tapes as we do, they'd be swamped by criminals there! -
Originally posted by BillyBong:
'SPECIAL CASE' siah....
[b]Police explain actions taken in assault case
Aug 16, 2006
The Straits Times
POLICE empathise with the plight of Ms Liew Sok Kuan's brother ('Assault 'a civil case', so no police action'; ST, Aug and would like to apologise for the unpleasant experience that he had with our officers who first attended to the case.
We would like to clarify that we have been in contact with Ms Liew and her brother since the case was first reported, and have been updating him on our investigations.
Police received a call from Dr Liew at 12.05am on April 15 reporting the assault and that the assailants had already left on motorcycles. Though he mentioned that an ambulance was not required, the nearest available officers were despatched immediately, followed by paramedics.
At the same time, all officers on the ground were alerted to look out for motorcycles bearing the two registration numbers that Dr Liew provided to our operator.
On arrival at about 12.25am, the police officers were informed by Dr Liew that two men from a group of six to eight had punched him - once in the face, and once in the stomach. He was observed to be bleeding from the nose.
Based on the initial information given, the case was classified as voluntarily causing hurt under Section 323 of the Penal Code. However, such a case requires a magistrate's authorisation before the police can exercise full powers of investigation. Dr Liew was given a police medical-report form and a referral letter to lodge a complaint with the magistrate.
He was, however, advised to contact the investigation officer should his medical examination reveal any fracture or other serious injury as the case may then fall under a different classification.
Our officers also proceeded to conduct enquiries at the scene.
Later that same morning, Dr Liew visited a neighbourhood police centre and provided his medical report, which indicated a fracture. This development was communicated to the investigation officer, who then reclassified the case that very same day to voluntarily causing grievous hurt (under Section 325) which did not require the lodging of a magistrate's complaint.
Dr Liew was informed that the case had been reclassified. Ms Liew also called the investigation officer at about 9pm the same evening and the officer informed her that police were investigating.
The Head of Investigation also spoke and wrote to Ms Liew and her brother to assure them of police action a few days later, following written appeals she had sent.
We acknowledge that our responding officers at the scene should have treated the incident more seriously, based on the circumstances that led to the assault. Had this been done, it would have been unnecessary for Dr Liew to be advised that he needed to make an application to a magistrate.
Nevertheless, this lapse has not compromised the investigation. The leads provided by Dr Liew were followed up on. One of the motorcycle numbers was invalid and the nearest match was established to be unrelated to the case, while the owner of the other motorcycle was identified and assisted in the investigation.
An identification parade had also been arranged for Dr Liew. We will continue to keep him updated on the investigations.
Audrey Ang (Ms)
Assistant Director
(Media Relations)
Singapore Police Force
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CASE GRAVER THAN WAY IT WAS TREATED
We acknowledge that our responding officers at the scene should have treated the incident more seriously, based on the circumstances that led to the assault on Dr Liew.
So the police are writing it off as misjudgement on the part of their officers, but insist action was taken at the scene; the only exception was that it was woefully inadequate.
Considering how govt agencies close ranks and protect themselves, i doubt that any disciplinary action will be taken against the pair of officers in question. [/b]
I also 'empathise' with SINGAPOREANS.... -
Better still... Make sure that you're somewhere between being fractured but not dead ok?Originally posted by fudgester:What did say earlier... I'm going to laugh my head off at whatever dumb excuse the spokesperson gives. And truly, I'm going to die of laughter soon.
Welcome to Singapore. If you do get confronted and assaulted by superior numbers, hope that your bones get broken. Otherwise, you must handle the criminals on your own.
Have a pleasant stay. -
Only 2 wacked him, therefore is VCH and not rioting.
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I'd rather have Rudy Giuliani as a real Mayor.