Singapore Chinese population on the decline?
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oh.. btw gUms.. your english is really atrocious. Go brush up your English before you come talking to me. A few grammatical and spelling mistakes are pretty ok; but what you type inadvertently points to your f*cked up grades you get for your English Language paper.Originally posted by gUms:Does de earth`s natural resources belong to you ??? or was it there for all mankind to use? you think life is all about money ??? not everyone wans to work like fark , just to buy a wrx and show off , some just wan all the basic stuff only , and enjoy and really live de life , anyway life is not about having lots of money .
try typing in mandarin. maybe ya a chinese who's so cheena, or a malay who's so mat kind, or an indian who's so traditional and tameleh kind... whatever!
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you are pathetic.Originally posted by trendz:oh.. btw gUms.. your english is really atrocious. Go brush up your English before you come talking to me. A few grammatical and spelling mistakes are pretty ok; but what you type inadvertently points to your f*cked up grades you get for your English Language paper.
try typing in mandarin. maybe ya a chinese who's so cheena, or a malay who's so mat kind, or an indian who's so traditional and tameleh kind... whatever!
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it's getting harder to have an objective discussion these days.
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you are nowhere near the opposite.Originally posted by Ito_^:you are pathetic. -
I think racial harmony is not to be taken for granted.
firstly, whenever I order malay and chinese food, I do take care, not to mix the utensils. For me, I believe if I respect the differences, they would too.
Yes, there are many *diots who think nothing of the racial harmony that we have, and try to think otherwise.
but end of day, do think back and ask "what's the value?".
For example, in one canteen of a govt body near to Novena, I do know that the malay seller do charge me differently as compared to a malay colleague despite having the same food. So when I realised that, I simply don't patronise the stall.
We all know what happening in terrorism, but to blame it on a religion is simply too much as I do believe there are peace loving people who also condemn such acts. Unless you really understand the religion and what is written, then, you can comment. Else, like me, I would like to give the benefits of the doubt to the peace lovers.
I believe Malays leaders also feel the pain when they see the younger malays going astray, and it is same for all other Ethnics groups.
Rem, we are singaporean, a small island. Our success is built upon our racial harmony. and I sincerely ask all to read our history. For me, I won't want to go back to those days where colour of our skin determines our fate. I believe we all evolved from that.. -
dude it's not as if his english is illegible or undeciperable to uOriginally posted by trendz:oh.. btw gUms.. your english is really atrocious. Go brush up your English before you come talking to me. A few grammatical and spelling mistakes are pretty ok; but what you type inadvertently points to your f*cked up grades you get for your English Language paper.
try typing in mandarin. maybe ya a chinese who's so cheena, or a malay who's so mat kind, or an indian who's so traditional and tameleh kind... whatever!
HAHA! and i can't understand this "yo cheena boy me english's for teh leet and u tameleh/mat saleh/cheena losers coz me leet "jia kan tang neo" scarsm rulez ur a.rse coz yo mama's grammar's so teh f*ucked up therefore all ur points are teh rendered invalid ,yeah me rulez for teh 6786876869686997 times coz u sub-par english language paper failures of teh leet society HAHA now my balls are all inflated with egos" kind of views... -
wats the purpose of tis thread??
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I think in all races, there exists the black-sheeps, and no amount of haggling can change this fact.
Now we can rant and fume about the raw & rude characters of China's nationals in Singapore because they lack exposure and are less cultured, some even enjoy being such an a-ss, - that I see no harm.
But to continue finger-pointing here about Malays/Muslims, or any other races, and or religions, is like standing in an open field during a thunderstorm & risking a lightning strike.
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I've seen how the malays treat my chi friend's dad. I've listened to how the malays treat his grandpa too. simply f*cked up. bad attitude too. It simply sucks alright? And it hurt my chinese friend too.Originally posted by iceFatboy:I think racial harmony is not to be taken for granted.
firstly, whenever I order malay and chinese food, I do take care, not to mix the utensils. For me, I believe if I respect the differences, they would too.
Yes, there are many *diots who think nothing of the racial harmony that we have, and try to think otherwise.
but end of day, do think back and ask "what's the value?".
For example, in one canteen of a govt body near to Novena, I do know that the malay seller do charge me differently as compared to a malay colleague despite having the same food. So when I realised that, I simply don't patronise the stall.
We all know what happening in terrorism, but to blame it on a religion is simply too much as I do believe there are peace loving people who also condemn such acts. Unless you really understand the religion and what is written, then, you can comment. Else, like me, I would like to give the benefits of the doubt to the peace lovers.
I believe Malays leaders also feel the pain when they see the younger malays going astray, and it is same for all other Ethnics groups.
Rem, we are singaporean, a small island. Our success is built upon our racial harmony. and I sincerely ask all to read our history. For me, I won't want to go back to those days where colour of our skin determines our fate. I believe we all evolved from that..
And those f*ckers are old enough to be someone's father. They should be sensible enough. But I'm afraid not.
Taking racial harmony for granted? Let's just say in every single one of us, there're bound to have some characteristics of others which you loathe, but just wouldn't have the balls to air your views.
Why? Cause ya locked up in this f*ckin' sh*t which doesn't let you air your views and stuff. Where's the freedom of speech? It's so china-like. Simpkly disgusted.
Lil' wonder SG has never progressed; albeit in certain aspects. Its govt-controlled media has always been so stale and mundane, churning out news which ya often hear about.
What people say means nothing; what the govt says; everyone would stand up and listen. What's more? They nod their head in agreement regardless of whether that matter is beneficial or not.
If ya don't believe in what i said - the quran and all. About wanting the whole world to be of one religion - islam. and those who aren't muslims or of islam will be killed as it means going against islam.. somewhere along that line. Go check it out. Prove me wrong.
It is true that the Jewish (considered as Catholics, Christians) and the Muslims do not see eye-to-eye.
Which bloody religion condones violence? You tell me. Can you eradicate those black sheeps?
What if.. i say what if.. any of our SG muslim youths eventually had distorted views and beliefs about his own religion and turn against his own fellow Singaporeans?
I'm not gonna rule out that possibility.
Religion is a v. sensitive issue. Every single (no matter how small) issue about the religion.. you get riled up by some sh*t against, yet there isn't a need to hurt and kill people. And also put up stupid (violent) protests. Don't they have anything better to do?
I don't see the buddhists, taoists, etc putting up stupid protests every single time. Give me a break, will ya? I don't see them smearing the reputation of their own religion (by using violence to stand up for their own religion) too.
No wonder at least 70% of the US people hate islam/muslims. read 911 bombings. and guess most of the european countries too.
Maybe they do not have an in-depth understanding about the religion, but you can't say muslims would wanna understand other religions too.
My chi friend brought her dog to the beach., bumped into a malay couple and that guy even wanna kick her dog alright?! Then he stared at all of us as though he wanna find trouble with us.
It's only a small dog, and it didn't even lick him or anything. He could have just moved away and said it's okay.
That's understanding one and another, empathy and respect for you, HUH?! -
get a life. I'm wasting my breath talkin' to idiots like you. If you've nth sensible to say, shut the f*ck up and stop acting like a retarded fool.Originally posted by S@mz_Rev0LuT|on:dude it's not as if his english is illegible or undeciperable to u and i can't understand this "yo cheena boy me english's for teh leet and u tameleh/mat saleh/cheena losers coz me leet "jia kan tang neo" scarsm rulez ur a.rse coz yo mama's grammar's so teh f*ucked up therefore all ur points are teh rendered invalid ,yeah me rulez for teh 6786876869686997 times coz u sub-par english language paper failures of teh leet society HAHA now my balls are all inflated with egos" kind of views... -
FYI, the Muslims protected the Jews in the 15th century when the European leaders were persecuting them. It is the modern-day Zionists who are being ungrateful and murdering innocent Lebanese kids.Originally posted by trendz:I've seen how the malays treat my chi friend's dad. I've listened to how the malays treat his grandpa too. simply f*cked up. bad attitude too. It simply sucks alright? And it hurt my chinese friend too.
And those f*ckers are old enough to be someone's father. They should be sensible enough. But I'm afraid not.
Taking racial harmony for granted? Let's just say in every single one of us, there're bound to have some characteristics of others which you loathe, but just wouldn't have the balls to air your views.
Why? Cause ya locked up in this f*ckin' sh*t which doesn't let you air your views and stuff. Where's the freedom of speech? It's so china-like. Simpkly disgusted.
Lil' wonder SG has never progressed; albeit in certain aspects. Its govt-controlled media has always been so stale and mundane, churning out news which ya often hear about.
What people say means nothing; what the govt says; everyone would stand up and listen. What's more? They nod their head in agreement regardless of whether that matter is beneficial or not.
If ya don't believe in what i said - the quran and all. About wanting the whole world to be of one religion - islam. and those who aren't muslims or of islam will be killed as it means going against islam.. somewhere along that line. Go check it out. Prove me wrong.
It is true that the Jewish (considered as Catholics, Christians) and the Muslims do not see eye-to-eye.
Which bloody religion condones violence? You tell me. Can you eradicate those black sheeps?
What if.. i say what if.. any of our SG muslim youths eventually had distorted views and beliefs about his own religion and turn against his own fellow Singaporeans?
I'm not gonna rule out that possibility.
Religion is a v. sensitive issue. Every single (no matter how small) issue about the religion.. you get riled up by some sh*t against, yet there isn't a need to hurt and kill people. And also put up stupid (violent) protests. Don't they have anything better to do?
I don't see the buddhists, taoists, etc putting up stupid protests every single time. Give me a break, will ya? I don't see them smearing the reputation of their own religion (by using violence to stand up for their own religion) too.
No wonder at least 70% of the US people hate islam/muslims. read 911 bombings. and guess most of the european countries too.
Maybe they do not have an in-depth understanding about the religion, but you can't say muslims would wanna understand other religions too.
My chi friend brought her dog to the beach., bumped into a malay couple and that guy even wanna kick her dog alright?! Then he stared at all of us as though he wanna find trouble with us.
It's only a small dog, and it didn't even lick him or anything. He could have just moved away and said it's okay.
That's understanding one and another, empathy and respect for you, HUH?!
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Highly urbanised populations always tend to have their indigenous people failing to reproduce to keep up the numbers.
Countries like USA or UK managed to stave off a decline in their population only because of significant inflows of immigrants. Japan, for example, is facing a population time-bomb of the declining sort.
The problem for Singapore is that we are both a city, and a country. And this country requires her people to serve in the army as conscripts. Letting large inflows of immigrants in can cause damage to the social contract and fabric if not properly managed. -
nothing sensible? i'm just relating on ur behavior and style in the forums if my previous post did affect you in an unpleasant way , most probably your post will hurt most peoples feelings too...dude u're the one who's being a retard here..Originally posted by trendz:get a life. I'm wasting my breath talkin' to idiots like you. If you've nth sensible to say, shut the f*ck up and stop acting like a retarded fool. -
encourage chineses to reproduce more.Originally posted by monoslayer:wats the purpose of tis thread?? -
ahhh! mod of 'fireice is sh!t' forum!Originally posted by Gordonator:encourage chineses to reproduce more. -
go read your previous post before you launch redundant personal attacks on me.Originally posted by S@mz_Rev0LuT|on:nothing sensible? i'm just relating on ur behavior and style in the forums if my previous post did affect you in an unpleasant way , most probably your post will hurt most peoples feelings too...dude u're the one who's being a retard here..
in the first place, i did not pinpoint anyone and i'm sure i didn't even offend you. so look who's whining and all.
i would gladly appreciate if you would just shut the f*ck up if you've nth better or constructive to say. -
All immigrants must serve some form of NS, be it delayed or intermittent ones like letting those older than 30 serve Reservist duty.
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YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER , a loser when got noting else to say , would start scolding vulgar , eh dude , if u cant have a discussion pls piss off from here /Originally posted by trendz:go read your previous post before you launch redundant personal attacks on me.
in the first place, i did not pinpoint anyone and i'm sure i didn't even offend you. so look who's whining and all.
i would gladly appreciate if you would just shut the f*ck up if you've nth better or constructive to say. -
firstly, do you even know what's the meaning of a loser?Originally posted by gUms:YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER , a loser when got noting else to say , would start scolding vulgar , eh dude , if u cant have a discussion pls piss off from here /
no? you don't. ah-ha!
Now look who's the loser.
you can't even speak properly; what more do i expect from a retard like you?
stick to your ABCs, kid!
and i know v. well; i don't bear the hallmarks of a loser. AND i've got much more things to say.
Hmmm.. by the way, what's 'scolding vulgar'? HAHA!
are you trying to say 'scolding vulgarities?' or say.. much better words are hurling verbal abuses, expletives or profanities.
piss off from here? tell me how to. LOL! The only thing i'm conscious about is how you get on my nerves and piss me off with your dumb antics AND your counter-arguements were lame efforts trying to mask your deficiency in the lack of understanding and your poor intellect. No qualms about that.
Here; i bet this will help:
www.dictionary.com
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as long as u know , that im calling u a loser , im happy alreadyOriginally posted by trendz:firstly, do you even know what's the meaning of a loser?
no? you don't. ah-ha!
Now look who's the loser.
you can't even speak properly; what more do i expect from a retard like you?
stick to your ABCs, kid!
and i know v. well; i don't bear the hallmarks of a loser. AND i've got much more things to say.
Hmmm.. by the way, what's 'scolding vulgar'? HAHA!
are you trying to say 'scolding vulgarities?' or say.. much better words are hurling verbal abuses, expletives or profanities.
piss off from here? tell me how to. LOL! The only thing i'm conscious about is how you get on my nerves and piss me off with your dumb antics AND your counter-arguements were lame efforts trying to mask your deficiency in the lack of understanding and your poor intellect. No qualms about that.
Here; i bet this will help:
www.dictionary.com
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well simply 1 question to ask.
Do u guys actually believe in racial harmony in SG?
My answer would be no.
My reason :
If SG is a country that really believes in racial harmony, why would there be places like chinatown, malay village and little india? You might say these are the places where the races of the same kind gather to relax or chit chat or its the place where the races of the same kind reside in.
Well here comes the irony of racial harmony. If SG promotes racial harmony, why cant they have ppl of all races living together as a whole and not having this kind of malay village, chinatown and little india areas? how come chinatown residents are mostly only chinese and not mixing a fair number of each race so they can communicate more with each other? Why when u step into malay village u can barely see a handful of chinese?
If there really was such a thing called racial harmony in SG chinatown wouldn't have existed. the only reason why no1 dares to speak up regarding this matter is because the gov are putting ppl in jail for giving such comments and purely just voicing out their views.
Do u believe IF a foriegn talent here in SG were to give some nasty comments on a certain race like maybe the chinese, they would have gotten away with it cos the gov are giving them face?
back to main point of this tread. Chinese population is on the decline, to what i think is because the chinese here actually thinks for their future genrations more than the others. We know our future gen will simply suffer if we continue to be here so when they have the money they'll migrate even if they will become a 2nd class citizen of the other country.
More chinese migrate = less chinese population = less reproduction of SG chinese = more population of other races including eurasians and other mixed blood. chinese marry malays malay marries indian and so on. there wun be much pure SG chinese left. -
There is no law against racist comments against the chinese. By FT, chinese, malays or indians.Originally posted by boredandsleepy:...
Do u believe IF a foriegn talent here in SG were to give some nasty comments on a certain race like maybe the chinese, they would have gotten away with it cos the gov are giving them face?
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erm, need to do some reading up on that........moreover, they are heavily subsidised in alot of ways & education is FREE am i right to say that?Originally posted by Elodan:many chinese couples feel one is enuf. most cite stressful education system n high expenses. plus time no enuf as gotta work long hrs or travel. once, this malay cabbie spoke about buying canned food by the dozens from rochor rd as it is cheaper. he then said tt the malays see each child as god's gift n so having many kids is like receiving alot of blessings. all he wants is see his kids grow up.
only single digit : the number of chinese couples i noe who have more than 2 kids. BUT chinese couples with 1 kid or childless : in the tens. -
Gender, religion, racial & so on... these issues can often be use as politic cards, it's not easy to understand, there are reasons behind & it's beyond our control. No point arguing.
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He must have known that he was getting senile and so voluntarily stepped down before more damage is done.Originally posted by Atobe:
Prior to LKY stepping down as PM, and in one of his last National Day speech at the Kallang Theatre - he had said that perhaps he was mistaken in encouraging the passing of the Women's Charter - which protect the Rights of Singapore Women especially in the area of single marriage and against polygamy.
His regret was largely a result of his realisation that it was traditional for wealthy businessmen to have more then one wife, and resulting in many off-springs in an enlarged family.
This would have helped in arresting the slow decline of the population, and would have further enhanced his other position that capable persons will produce capable offsprings.
Amend the Women's Charter, and perhaps birth rates amongst the Chinese will take a natural increasing progression.