Some MORE Social Ills from China FTs....
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The last statement, well, that's plainly uncalled for. But I would agree with the rest of your message.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Was wondering how long it would take for the Mods to do something..
This is not a debate any longer...sounds more liike hooligans hurling abuse....and it's worse in the other thread.
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Well, looks like our government has a complete blood transfusion in mind.Originally posted by sourketchup:Sorry to disabuse you, but the government may be planning to open the flood gates for Indian doctors too.
Now there's really no certainty in ANY profession great or small. -
Blood transfusion always comes with the risk of rejection.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Well, looks like our government has a complete blood transfusion in mind.
Now there's really no certainty in ANY profession great or small.
Don't play God.
The lasting effect could however turn out to be a transformation of Singapore from one-party dominant state into a plural, coalition-govt state. -
To that, I must say; Oh God help us!Originally posted by LazerLordz:Blood transfusion always comes with the risk of rejection.
Don't play God.
The lasting effect could however turn out to be a transformation of Singapore from one-party dominant state into a plural, coalition-govt state. -
i look forward to that.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Blood transfusion always comes with the risk of rejection.
Don't play God.
The lasting effect could however turn out to be a transformation of Singapore from one-party dominant state into a plural, coalition-govt state.
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Still, I prefer them over PRCs. Don't understand why Chinese race must hold numerical supremacy in SG at all costs.Originally posted by sourketchup:Sorry to disabuse you, but the government may be planning to open the flood gates for Indian doctors too. 
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Coalition government? Something aof the Liberal-National kind of administration?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Blood transfusion always comes with the risk of rejection.
Don't play God.
The lasting effect could however turn out to be a transformation of Singapore from one-party dominant state into a plural, coalition-govt state.
To even achieve that, we need to incorporate elements of preferential voting into our flat-out 1st-past the-post system. -
No need to bring race into this. We are talking about foreign Ts in general.Originally posted by iveco:Still, I prefer them over PRCs. Don't understand why Chinese race must hold numerical supremacy in SG at all costs. -
I don't understand. What advantages do Indians hold over Mainlanders exactly? Care to elaborate? There have been a fair share of complaints regarding the behaviour of Indian and Blangadeshi foreign workers, particularly in Serangoon. Are you saying that they are without their share of problems?Originally posted by iveco:Still, I prefer them over PRCs. Don't understand why Chinese race must hold numerical supremacy in SG at all costs.
As for the second comment.. you're treading a thin line here. I've noticed that you seem to have a particular chip on your shoulder towards "mongoloids" and Chinese in particular. Dare we call it racism? Nobody can say for certain. One thing's for sure: Australian habits appear to be rubbing off on someone.
To answer your question, why must the Chinese race hold numerical superiority in Singapore? Implications of some sinister plot aside, obviously the reason why Chinese have numerical superiority is because historical Chinese migration has demographically determined the composition of the present local population. This is a fact commonly taught in primary schools.
As to why there are more PRC immigrants than Indian immigrants, this could be due to the Chinese enjoying an absolute superiority in numbers and social mobility (the average PRC would have the resources to migrateas compared to an Indian). The fact that Singapore is already a majority Chinese state proabably makes us a more attractive destination to PRC nationals than to say those from the Subcontinent.
That Chinese arose here as the majority is more the result of natural and historical occurances than any specific policy by past or present governments. -
A center-left coalition with the less right-wing elements of the PAP, with the WP and perhaps a future third party?Originally posted by iveco:Coalition government? Something aof the Liberal-National kind of administration?
To even achieve that, we need to incorporate elements of preferential voting into our flat-out 1st-past the-post system.
Still, leave race out of this equation. Your hatred of Chinese is just as bad as those PRCs who refuse to integrate or see beyond their own hubris. -
Yeah, Subcontinentals have their share of serious problems. FTs from EU may be the smallest threat after all.Originally posted by Typhoon:I don't understand. What advantages do Indians hold over Mainlanders exactly? Care to elaborate? There have been a fair share of complaints regarding the behaviour of Indian and Blangadeshi foreign workers, particularly in Serangoon. Are you saying that they are without their share of problems?
As for the second comment.. you're treading a thin line here. I've noticed that you seem to have a particular chip on your shoulder towards "mongoloids" and Chinese in particular. Dare we call it racism? Nobody can say for certain. One thing's for sure: Australian habits appear to be rubbing off on someone.
To answer your question, why must the Chinese race hold numerical superiority in Singapore? Implications of some sinister plot aside, obviously the reason why Chinese have numerical superiority is because historical Chinese migration has demographically determined the composition of the present local population. This is a fact commonly taught in primary schools.
As to why there are more PRC immigrants than Indian immigrants, this could be due to the Chinese enjoying an absolute superiority in numbers and social mobility (the average PRC would have the resources to migrateas compared to an Indian). The fact that Singapore is already a majority Chinese state proabably makes us a more attractive destination to PRC nationals than to say those from the Subcontinent.
That Chinese arose here as the majority is more the result of natural and historical occurances than any specific policy by past or present governments.
BTW, many of the richest corporate bigwigs in UK are Indian-born. What have you to say?
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Stop being racist, and do crawl back to the hole you come from?Originally posted by iveco:Yeah, Subcontinentals have their share of serious problems. FTs from EU may be the smallest threat after all.
BTW, many of the richest corporate bigwigs in UK are Indian-born. What have you to say? -
You ever heard the term "Blood Traitor"?Originally posted by sourketchup:Stop being racist, and do crawl back to the hole you come from?
It is because of the revolting behaviour of PRCs that make anyone with Chinese features come under scrutiny in the Western world.
Name me some social ills you have come across among the regulars @ LTI. Are these any worse than their counterparts from across the Himalayas? -
Crawl back to your hole, racist idiot.Originally posted by iveco:You ever heard the term "Blood Traitor"?
It is because of the revolting behaviour of PRCs that make anyone with Chinese features come under scrutiny in the Western world.
Name me some social ills you have come across among the regulars @ LTI. Are these any worse than their counterparts from across the Himalayas? -
don't bother with himOriginally posted by sourketchup:Crawl back to your hole, racist idiot. -
i dare to call myself Chink in front of my ang mo frens. And they simply laughed. I laughed along with them.Originally posted by sourketchup:Crawl back to your hole, racist idiot.
Maybe you should try that too. -
Nice try.Originally posted by iveco:i dare to call myself Chink in front of my ang mo frens. And they simply laughed. I laughed along with them.
Maybe you should try that too.
Crawl back to your hole, racist idiot. -
Oh, thanks. I get it now, he is the resident idiot here.Originally posted by LazerLordz:don't bother with him -
Taken from Seancannot's thread:
If only the regime would wake up & see the damage it has done to the voters.Originally posted by ShutterBug:NO, we CANNOT and SHOULD not stopp ALL foreigner workers from coming here. BUT, our gov SHOULD HAVE regulated the influx from China. Our economy is better for all the FWs and FTs, but with all the low and mid level jobs saturated by FWs from PRC, it adds on to the Income Gap problem.
Our gov is obviously only looking at the economic level in terms of FWs' & FTs' contributions, but appear to have closed one eye to the woes of locals seeking income.
No matter local or foreign labor are used, eventually many companies will move to cheaper countries as we will inevitably become too costly to operate within. I cite fuel costs as one of the many operation costs besides land and others. So, I feel eventually, the Universal Solution of FTs will have little or no effect in supporting our economy.
If our gov does not now look into ways to make use of local manpower resources, one day when FTs no longer are effective solutions, then what?
So far the use of FTs only benefits two entities; our GOV and the EMPLOYERS.
The people???
In Cold storage - or back burnner.
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What have I to say? I don't recall mentioning that Indians were economically less successful than Chinese- that's something entirely of your own fabrication.Originally posted by iveco:Yeah, Subcontinentals have their share of serious problems. FTs from EU may be the smallest threat after all.
BTW, many of the richest corporate bigwigs in UK are Indian-born. What have you to say? Only that there is no apparent advantage in promoting Chinese over Indian immigration and vice versa- both would accordingly bring their own set of problems, some perhaps racially specific (which I doubt even exist; a great number of problems attributed to either Indian or Chinese foreign workers in particular i.e. disturbing public peace, insularity, racism, belief in superiority over locals, failure to integrate, strikes, and tendency to criminal behaviour occur with the same frequency across immigrant groups of all stripe), and others on which racial composition has less bearing with regards to the impact to Singaporeans, than say the occupational and educational makeup of the FTs.
Furthermore, your implication that I believe Chinese FTs to be somehow superior to Indians, when what I did was to simply point out that both are possibly second best choices, is ironic if you consider that you were the one who expressed a marked preference for Indian and European FTs over PRCs. What comes from having a perspective coloured by Australian perceptions, perhaps?
As to your latter statement, well, for every Sunil Mittal or Vijay Mallya there is a Jerry Yang and Charles Wang. Each race is not without its share of success stories, despite your suggestions otherwise. -
I'm quite sure if the FTs were from the CIS instead of PRC, there would be fewer complaints.
Shutterbug has valid concerns, yet he is being shot at from all directions. -
Ignore Iveco, he is the mandatory in-house clown of every forumOriginally posted by Typhoon:What have I to say? I don't recall mentioning that Indians were economically less successful than Chinese- that's something entirely of your own fabrication. Only that there is no apparent advantage in promoting Chinese over Indian immigration and vice versa- both would accordingly bring their own set of problems, some perhaps racially specific (which I doubt even exist; a great number of problems attributed to either Indian or Chinese foreign workers in particular i.e. disturbing public peace, insularity, racism, belief in superiority over locals, failure to integrate, strikes, and tendency to criminal behaviour occur with the same frequency across immigrant groups of all stripe), and others on which racial composition has less bearing with regards to the impact to Singaporeans, than say the occupational and educational makeup of the FTs.
Furthermore, your implication that I believe Chinese FTs to be somehow superior to Indians, when what I did was to simply point out that both are possibly second best choices, is ironic if you consider that you were the one who expressed a marked preference for Indian and European FTs over PRCs. What comes from having a perspective coloured by Australian perceptions, perhaps?
As to your latter statement, well, for every Sunil Mittal or Vijay Mallya there is a Jerry Yang and Charles Wang. Each race is not without its share of success stories, despite your suggestions otherwise.