Singapore Factor in Malaysian Politics
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Mr Khairy, son-in-law of Datuk Seri Abdullah (Malaysia PM), told reporters after opening the UMNO Sri Gadang youth delegatesÂ’ meeting:
“The Republic (of Singapore) has imposed many terms and conditions during the negotiation stage of the bridge project as they always thought they have better bargaining power backed by economic strength.”
“They do not realize they will deplete their land resources sooner or later. When that time comes, their people will ultimately shift to Johor Baru, which will then become a new developed area.”
“By that time, they will have to depend on us and even take the initiative to build the bridge. Just wait and see.” -
What do you think of the above.
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MalaysiaÂ’s Berita Minggu newspaper quoted Mr Khairy as saying last Saturday:
“We have to look at this from the geopolitical angle because we have our own strengths, we have land, the intellect and a huge population as compared to Singapore.”
“If we take advantage of all these strengths in addition to SJER’s (Southern Johor Economic Region) development, one day they would definitely depend on us….this is what we want.” -
everyone is entitled to their own illusions ....
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I have a friend who told me that Singapore is controlling Malaysia's economy and without Singapore or Singapore imposing economic sanctions on Malaysia their economy will collapse and in the end their people will flooding into Singapore.
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What can we learn from the "illusions" by one of the “top youth leaders, investors, businessmen, entrepreneurs, politicians from the north”Originally posted by Fatum:everyone is entitled to their own illusions .... -
how did he get there ? .... I rest my case .....Originally posted by pisces8:What can we learn from the "illusions" by one of the “top youth leaders, investors, businessmen, entrepreneurs, politicians from the north” -
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We knows what kind of country M'sia isOriginally posted by Fatum:how did he get there ? .... I rest my case .....
Who knows in the future Johor Bahru might becomes part of Singapore? -
okiez .... jokes aside ....
it's good to constantly remind ourselves that whatever we have right now is a never ending marathon .... everyone is waiting for us to trip and fall .... and our constraints are certainly real enough .....
we cannot always count on the ineptitude of our friendly neighbours for our continued prosperity, for we're now taking on the whole world ... -
well i think that the entire basis upon his statement is made upon , is flawed.
Singapore has no land resources to speak of, we are living in on a pin.
Looking at our decreasing population , will there ever be a shortage of land resources ?
Further more , we have a lot of free land untouched and is still primary forest. I believe that if need be , we can still use that. -
I believe the scholars in the gohment think tanks are working on the numbers. The "population" Singapore can support in year X.Originally posted by zanza:well i think that the entire basis upon his statement is made upon , is flawed.
Singapore has no land resources to speak of, we are living in on a pin.
Looking at our decreasing population , will there ever be a shortage of land resources ?
Further more , we have a lot of free land untouched and is still primary forest. I believe that if need be , we can still use that.
By the way, we do not have “decreasing population”. I still remember not too long ago the population of Singapore was about 2 millions, now we are about 4 millions and I have lost count.
The theory of “decreasing population” is to justify the foreign talent (FT) policy. FT bring alone wealth, investment, without much “costs” by the gohment. It is cheaper to increase wealth by FT Policy rather spending a lot of money addressing the real issues on hand.
Of course the true Singaporean who have to do NS feel cheated / disillusioned by the FT policy. But this is another storey. -
Not too long ago, a lot of Singaporean bought into housing developments in Johor (supporting the idea of making Johor part of Singapore?). But Malaysian Gohment saw the tricks coming and imposed the policy of MR100,000 transfer fee every time foreigner sell their property. This stop the Singaporean from indulging in this idea of making Johor part of Singapore.Originally posted by toll123:We knows what kind of country M'sia is
Who knows in the future Johor Bahru might becomes part of Singapore?
Now that the policy of MR100,000 transfer fee had been dropped. I believe not many Singaporean will try to make Johor part of Singapore by buying into Johor properties.
The trap had been sprang and it may be reloaded again any time. -
Mr Khairy said “We have to look at this from the geopolitical angle because we have our own strengths, we have land, the intellect and a huge population as compared to Singapore.”
Malaysia has the above “strengths” from day one when it was formed. It is already 40 odd years with the above “strengths” and yet lag behind in many way.
Mr Khairy said “If we take advantage of all these strengths in addition to SJER’s (Southern Johor Economic Region) development, one day they would definitely depend on us….this is what we want.”
So with the additional of SJER development to the “strengths”, can it turn the tide in Malaysia favour? I doubt so. -
With this type of thinkingOriginally posted by pisces8:Mr Khairy, son-in-law of Datuk Seri Abdullah (Malaysia PM), told reporters after opening the UMNO Sri Gadang youth delegatesÂ’ meeting:
“The Republic (of Singapore) has imposed many terms and conditions during the negotiation stage of the bridge project as they always thought they have better bargaining power backed by economic strength.”
“They do not realize they will deplete their land resources sooner or later. When that time comes, their people will ultimately shift to Johor Baru, which will then become a new developed area.”
“By that time, they will have to depend on us and even take the initiative to build the bridge. Just wait and see.”
"They will stay there and not move forward"
They will doom to failure right from the start.
As seen in the water issue also, MY think they can use water as a bargaining chip, but now they think otherwise liao because SG is now becoming self sufficient in water. And when the water treaty expires, SG can say "No thank you, we dun need ur water from now on"
And the most laughable part is, from SG independence till now, they STILL have this kind of thinking. -
we may have the advantage now...
but we shouldnt be complacent...
the world is changing everyday...
we have to remain competitive...
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From wikipediaOriginally posted by toll123:I have a friend who told me that Singapore is controlling Malaysia's economy and without Singapore or Singapore imposing economic sanctions on Malaysia their economy will collapse and in the end their people will flooding into Singapore.
"In 1970s, Malaysia began to imitate the footsteps of the original four Asian Tigers and committed itself to a transition from being reliant on mining and agriculture to an economy that depends more on manufacturing. With Japanese investment, heavy industries flourished and in a matter of years, Malaysian exports became the country's primary growth engine. Malaysia consistently achieved more than 7% GDP growth along with low inflation in the 1980s and the 1990s." -
This is because according to a MAlaysian, many empty houses had not been sold for many years n they desperate for investment. Also many locals buying homes in KL for retirement compared to JB.Originally posted by pisces8:Not too long ago, a lot of Singaporean bought into housing developments in Johor (supporting the idea of making Johor part of Singapore?). But Malaysian Gohment saw the tricks coming and imposed the policy of MR100,000 transfer fee every time foreigner sell their property. This stop the Singaporean from indulging in this idea of making Johor part of Singapore.
Now that the policy of MR100,000 transfer fee had been dropped. I believe not many Singaporean will try to make Johor part of Singapore by buying into Johor properties.
The trap had been sprang and it may be reloaded again any time.
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Let the fella have his superiority complex and condescending attitude towards us.
Just make sure we don't have that kind of superiority complex and condescending attitude towards them.
I must admit though, that was pretty good for a laugh. -
No matter SG or Malaysia,it doesn't matter. Im already a second-class citizen.
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When they need investment, they welcome you with open arms.Originally posted by will4:This is because according to a MAlaysian, many empty houses had not been sold for many years n they desperate for investment. Also many locals buying homes in KL for retirement compared to JB.
When they are many empty houses they asked Singaporean to invest. When many houses had been bought then they imposed the MR100,000 transfer fee. This stopped Singaporean and many got trapped (sell houses at a loss and no body want to buy).
Now they are many empty houses again, they lifted the MR100,000 transfer fee. With the future leader talk like this.
Singaporean will think twice before getting involved again. -
We bought a cond unit in Kl at S$350,000 from Capital lLand at Twin Towers area which will be completed by mid next year.Originally posted by pisces8:When they need investment, they welcome you with open arms.
When they are many empty houses they asked Singaporean to invest. When many houses had been bought then they imposed the MR100,000 transfer fee. This stopped Singaporean and many got trapped (sell houses at a loss and no body want to buy).
Now they are many empty houses again, they lifted the MR100,000 transfer fee. With the future leader talk like this.
Singaporean will think twice before getting involved again.
The selling has gone up about 12% after we had purchased it 1 and half years ago , this is to illustrate what u read from the newspaper may not b 100% accurate,they r loser and they r winner like some of us as well!!! -
All that has been said by Khairy - was said for the internal consumption of Malaysian politics; and it will take a monumental change in the Malaysian Malay thinking before the Singapore bogey will evaporate to advance their confidence without any further dependence on this "Singapore crutch".
Khairy has said more things then necessary, and has offended quite a few sectors of Malaysian Community, as was seen in his recent plea to his Malay Community not to take sides in the Mahathir inspired quarrels with Badawi; which he has warned will only weaken UMNO and the Malay community and which will allow the Chinese Community to take advantage of this split.
This careless insensitive political statement created an uproar with the Chinese Community, and led to the Youth Wing of the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) to take the lead to seek clarification from Khairy - who is the current Deputy President of the UMNO Youth Wing.
Although, Khairy had explained that there was no "clear intent" to cast suspicion on the Malaysian Chinese Community - the clarification was not accepted by the larger Chinese Community, and not by everyone from the MCA Youth Wing - who has taken the lead in settling this matter, keeping "this storm inside the Tea Cup" and preventing it from getting any bigger.
With the "push-and-pulls and horse trading" of Malaysian politics, in which the "most talented and most qualified" has been prevented - and sacrificed - from contributing to the advancement of Malaysia economic strength. This can only result in Singapore having some breathing space to move light years ahead of any challenges from Malaysia.
For Singapore, it is fortunate that Badawi is the present Prime Minister of Malaysia, and we have always enjoyed excellent relations with Badawi - from the period of his tenure as the Malaysian Foreign Minister.
Badawi is a practical visionary - unlike Mahathir - as can be seen in the 9th Malaysian Plan - (9MP), which showed his boldness and vision in investing in the future for Malaysia. Badawi's 9MP does not feature any of Mahathir's mega iconic projects - such as the Petronas Twin Towers, Bakun Dam, and the Johor-Singapore Bridge - all of which had sapped the Malaysian Treasury.
In Peninsular Malaysia, the 9MP features three centers of economic excellence and take advantage of the available local expertise of the respective regions.
In the south, the 9th MP has the vision of creating a South Johor Economic Region that advance Malaysian industry in high technology and engineering; and it takes advantage of the large pool of human resource that shuttle daily between Johor and Singapore - to support the many Singapore high-tech and engineering heavy industries.
With a larger land space made available, new tax and investment incentives, the intended outcome of this project will be achieved - as evidenced by the positive response from many Singapore factories to new industrial sites opened on both sides of the Pasir Gudang Highway, encouraged by the Johor State Government.
In the north-east, Badawi had made a bold move into the heartland of the PAS opposition controlled state of Kelantan, by grouping Kelantan with Trengganu and Pahang into a north-east center of ecnonmic excellence and placing the biggest chunk of investment from the 9MP.
His bold move will invest in UMNO's political future by breaking the backward religious teachings of PAS religious schools, by elevating the educational and social infrastructure of this neglected rural community.
In the north-west, Badawi can be seen to be even bolder by moving deep into the home ground of Mahathir - seen as his political nemesis - and touching the Kedah grass-roots with bold plans to elevate the amount of financial and technical support programs to a largely neglected agricultural sector of this north-west region of Peninsula Malaysia.
With his broad and visionary 9th Malaysian Plan, Badawi has spread progress and economic development equally and without bankrupting his Treasury.
Some of the Malaysian political commentators have raised doubts to the extensive nature of this 9MP, and wonder if Badawi has over-stretched himself and the resources available.
Has the political commentators become trapped by their cynicism ?
Badawi has stated his clear goal of governance through " Transparency and Accountability " - and his 9MP has set out to achieve this by creating three centers of excellence, with each being managed by specific individuals, each having its own budget, and each having its set goals.
This makes the task of the Federal Government much easier in following up the progress of implementation by monitoring the effectiveness and results of the three separate management groups at the respective centers.
Singapore should make a positive contribution to strengthen the hands of Badawi in ensuring the 9MP will work by taking a positive role in that 9MP to benefit our own position in Malaysian economy.
The previous Malaysian government policies of RM100,000 transfer fees on private home transactions, as well as the banning of CLOB issues were made in knee-jerk response to certain crisis that affected Malaysia's larger interests; and its implementation had actually back-fired more on Malaysia future as well as to Singaporeans.
Lessons were learnt, and as matters stand now - the RM100,000 had been rescinded in view of the extreme glut in the Malaysian property sector; and the CLOB issue has been managed amicably - (this CLOB issue should not have come up if the Singapore Finance Ministry and SES had heeded the early warnings from Malaysia not to circumvent Malaysian laws by making indirect participation of the Malaysian Stock Exchange).
With new political leadership at the helms of both countries, Singapore and Malaysia should develop a more mature and sophisticated mechanism in guiding and developing the political attitudes and behaviors of those involved in politics.
This is critical as on the social, cultural and economic fronts - the relationship is mature, deep rooted, amicable, mutually supporting and beneficial.
The good relationship can be seen in the many cross-border marriages amongst the different ethnic communities of Malaysia and Singapore - which basically begs the question - can one differentiate between a Malaysian or Singapore Malay, Indian, Eurasian, or Chinese ?
We share the same food, customs, traditions, culture, social values, and way of life - (comparing like for like, i.e. the urbanites with the urbanites, rural folks with the rural folks). Is there any difference between the KL Pub Hopper with the Singaporean Pub Hopper ?
We enjoy our beer and music in the same manner, and are equally at home in any Pub in Malaysia or Singapore.
It is best that Malaysian and Singaporean politicians keep the interests of the common people in perspective, whenever they make any broad sweeping statements of their own politics or that of the wider world.
What comes around, will go around. -
last time my secondary school also got one poor malay boy who like to borrow money always imagine that one day he will have alot of friends becoz the rest of us who were shunning him would get sick of each other and start to befriend him.
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Actually,we hve benefited a lot from the poor Malaysia education system from which a lot of talented pps hve come over to Spore.In addition ,the Malaysia workers hve also contrbuted a lot to our economic and factories production judging from the numbers of motocycles/cars acrossg the crossway everydays.
These 2 months ie July n August, I had seen a lot of Arab nationals in Kl and their tourism is at the peak now. But I didnot see any of them in S'pore, wat the f our Goh claimed that we hve attracted a lot of them to our country.
We can not under estimate PM Addulah who had a chinese wife and knows about the chinese culture very well. In addition, the chief of Penang is also his good buddy.
I had seen him in Sabah and Sarawak who determine to develope these 2 states recently, and in where a lot of oil has been found which is more than wat Brunei has in the history that why Shell had shifted their head quarter from Brunei to Miri lately.