I Don't Think, We'd Ever Get Such GRACE from our Gov.
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Fuel prices up, so traffic fines cut
September 06, 2006
MALAYSIAN police have slashed traffic fines by up to 70 per cent to help drivers who are struggling with the high cost of living as fuel prices soar.
Internal Security and Public Order Director Mustafa Abdullah said fines would be lowered from Monday in a move also aimed at encouraging Malaysians to pay up on traffic fines.
'However, traffic offenders who received their summonses earlier must pay according to the old rates to avoid legal complications,' he was quoted as saying by Bernama news agency.
Mustafa said the new rates would be maintained if Malaysians responded positively, and dismissed concerns that the decision would encourage motorists to break traffic rules.
The police official said that fines would not be reduced for serious offences such as fatal accidents, drink or dangerous driving and illegal racing.
Changes include a reduction in fines from RM70 ($30) to RM50 for not wearing seat belts, from RM70 to RM30 for motorcyclists without helmets, and from RM100 to RM70 for using a handphone while driving, Bernama said.
Last year, the Malaysian police introduced a 50 per cent discount on fines for a month in an effort to clear a backlog of unpaid summonses. -AFP. -
london authorities have long have schemes like these.
50% discount in parking fines if paid within 14 days -
So 50% means 2 same offence in order to make the complete fine... haiz
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Originally posted by sgboy2004:So 50% means 2 same offence in order to make the complete fine... haiz
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does it mean that the going rate for kopi money for malaysian traffic police will go down too ? ......
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How does slashing the prices of fines offset rising fuel costs?Originally posted by ShutterBug:Fuel prices up, so traffic fines cut
September 06, 2006
MALAYSIAN police have slashed traffic fines by up to 70 per cent to help drivers who are struggling with the high cost of living as fuel prices soar.
Internal Security and Public Order Director Mustafa Abdullah said fines would be lowered from Monday in a move also aimed at encouraging Malaysians to pay up on traffic fines.
'However, traffic offenders who received their summonses earlier must pay according to the old rates to avoid legal complications,' he was quoted as saying by Bernama news agency.
Mustafa said the new rates would be maintained if Malaysians responded positively, and dismissed concerns that the decision would encourage motorists to break traffic rules.
The police official said that fines would not be reduced for serious offences such as fatal accidents, drink or dangerous driving and illegal racing.
Changes include a reduction in fines from RM70 ($30) to RM50 for not wearing seat belts, from RM70 to RM30 for motorcyclists without helmets, and from RM100 to RM70 for using a handphone while driving, Bernama said.
Last year, the Malaysian police introduced a 50 per cent discount on fines for a month in an effort to clear a backlog of unpaid summonses. -AFP.
The Malaysian police seem to have confused everyone by undercutting the law to ease public burden.
A 70% reduction of fines will surely create mayhem among the errant driver population, since traffic violation no longer carry a severe enough penalty. -
It is after all their choice on what to slash in their effort to relieve their peoples' pockets.Originally posted by BillyBong:How does slashing the prices of fines offset rising fuel costs?
The Malaysian police seem to have confused everyone by undercutting the law to ease public burden.
A 70% reduction of fines will surely create mayhem among the errant driver population, since traffic violation no longer carry a severe enough penalty.
Our gov could choose better what to slash if they do follow suit (which I seriously doubt they will EVER). -
No! It means the rate for kopi money will rise to make up for the deficit.Originally posted by Fatum:does it mean that the going rate for kopi money for malaysian traffic police will go down too ? ...... -
I was refering to the context of Malaysian police relating rising fuel costs to traffic fines.Originally posted by ShutterBug:It is after all their choice on what to slash in their effort to relieve their peoples' pockets.
Our gov could choose better what to slash if they do follow suit (which I seriously doubt they will EVER).
It is not in anyone's best interest to reduce the penalty for a crime to justify rising prices. The two are completely unrelated and should never be viewed as such. It may in fact will more errant drivers to take advantage of the situation given the reduction.
There are other ways to offset rising fuel prices which any govt can do. Provide transport subsidies, more discounts on fuel surcharges etc etc. -
it is a stupid idea.
there are many ways to help motorists cut costs, this is definitely not one of them.
a fine is a fine.
it is ridiculous to give discount for an offence. -
Yeah, it makes a mockery of the entire system of law and order. People will begin to not take the system seriously if laws are not applied to the full extend. Even if there are grounds for redress or leniancy, that should be done through procedure.
In this case, the Malaysians are just reducing fines to plascate the public for raising fuel prices. It is true that this will reduce the burden of drivers. However, the purpose of these fines are to punish drivers who have contrivened traffic rules. As such, the law stipulates that a transgression be met with a penalty to serve not only as a deterent, but also a conscience reminder to the offender of his transgressions. If the punishment is reduced in such a case, the public will just not respect the existence of a system and goes on to undermines it's practical applications.
Yes, it is a good thing for the government to take the well being of it's citizens at heart by reducing the fiscal purden they have to carry. However, they have to do it through means which does not undermine systematical processes as in this case. What the Malaysian government could do is to pherhaps put up rebates on road taxes or subsidies on toll levies. These reprieves not only bring about the intended goal of reducing the burden of the everyday man, it does not in anyway undermine any of the existing systes. This is something our government does, which some will argue is not enough. -
what a stupid system,fines are not part of a person's regular expenditure so ordinary people who does not break much rules will not be affected.Only benefit a minor portion of people who routinely break traffic rules.So little benefit at the great expense of increased crime due to the more affordability in the rate now for committing traffic offenses....
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50GBP (S$150) for parking fines if paid within 14 days, 100GBP (S$300) if you pay in 28 days. If you do not pay after that or lose your appeal, you pay 150GBP (S$450) and costs.Originally posted by HENG@:london authorities have long have schemes like these.
50% discount in parking fines if paid within 14 days -
grace is not their strongest suit....crocodile hunter offerred an australian state funeral, late president ong didn't even get one...enough said...
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heheheee...Originally posted by countdracula:grace is not their strongest suit....crocodile hunter offerred an australian state funeral, late president ong didn't even get one...enough said...
what more can we say...? -
it is a stupid idea.
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there are many ways to help motorists cut costs, this is definitely not one of them.
a fine is a fine.
it is ridiculous to give discount for an offence.
This is a lame way of helping its citizens
It just projects the image that the government does not have the power to collect the fines and thus has to resort to giving discounts to collect them
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nehmind ...
their main source of income are from Singaporean drivers anyways ...
wonder if anyone had the experience of being slapped with a fine for a traffic violation that you have no recollection of when entering JB ? ... -
In our government, everything goes up ...Originally posted by ShutterBug:It is after all their choice on what to slash in their effort to relieve their peoples' pockets.
Our gov could choose better what to slash if they do follow suit (which I seriously doubt they will EVER).
Only our incomes comes down ... -
Grace?
This is the funniest thing to be said in a sentence with govt -
right on!Originally posted by mistyblue:Grace?
This is the funniest thing to be said in a sentence with govt
gracious and caring government. now that's a real exercise in oxymorons. -
This our freaking pap govt. fark them allOriginally posted by countdracula:grace is not their strongest suit....crocodile hunter offerred an australian state funeral, late president ong didn't even get one...enough said... -
the late president ong deserves more respect.Originally posted by countdracula:grace is not their strongest suit....crocodile hunter offerred an australian state funeral, late president ong didn't even get one...enough said...
i am very frustrated about that too. -
ever considered that perhaps the family didn't want one ? ...Originally posted by dragg:the late president ong deserves more respect.
i am very frustrated about that too. -
The family did not want one, well that's fine and dandy lah.Originally posted by Fatum:ever considered that perhaps the family didn't want one ? ...
Question is, was it ever offered? I seem to have a problem finding out that information. -
is the lack of evidence a sort of indictment then ? ...Originally posted by LazerLordz:The family did not want one, well that's fine and dandy lah.
Question is, was it ever offered? I seem to have a problem finding out that information.
why say that his family wasn't offered one then ? ...
we're nit-picking here of course, but this sort of conspiracy theorizing and jaded cynicism is pretty unhealthy I think ...