Singapore inflicts enormous damage to its own reputation
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I think the people who were involved in the preparation of everything, from security, food, guides, etc etc will be so disappointed that everything they have contributed to this event will not be recognised and appreciated due to a silly decision made on 27 people.
If I were one of them, I will be damn disappointed. I pity those people, not the government. -
No lah, when all is said and done, the people at the top will still say they have done a manificent job in hosting this event.
The media will sing praises for a job well done, of enhancing Singapore's global reputation and giving the IMF delegates great memories.
You know the drill.
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Magnificent.Originally posted by charlize:No lah, when all is said and done, the people at the top will still say they have done a manificent job in hosting this event.
The media will sing praises for a job well done, of enhancing Singapore's global reputation and giving the IMF delegates great memories.
You know the drill.
I agree though. It'll be first page story as usual. -
who cares about their effort? the bottom line is the reputation.Originally posted by CoolMyth:I think the people who were involved in the preparation of everything, from security, food, guides, etc etc will be so disappointed that everything they have contributed to this event will not be recognised and appreciated due to a silly decision made on 27 people.
If I were one of them, I will be damn disappointed. I pity those people, not the government. -
The basic importance is to ensure that the meeting take place smoothly.
Inviting the demonstrator into the city will create more problem for Singapore.
Suppressing them if trouble is created will be another chicken and egg issue.
Arresting them will create more "problems".
So, it is actually the responsibilty of the organiser to make the decision to allow the demonstration.
If anything happens, the head of World Bank will not be responsible in any damage or injury caused.
I am disappointed that the effort to ensure the smooth sailing of the meeting is disrupted by the remark made by the HOWB.
Now, with the banning of the demonstration in the initial stage, the demonstrator that will be allowed in will definitely create more challenge to the security force stationed at the Suntec City. -
idiots all..
i am now working at the IMF thing...
i've seen enough teabagging to make the cheapest two-bit streetwalker retch
i blame the idiots in our gabrament..
damn.. which part of NO did they fail to understand?? -
The letters 'n' and 'o'.Originally posted by the Bear:idiots all..
i am now working at the IMF thing...
i've seen enough teabagging to make the cheapest two-bit streetwalker retch
i blame the idiots in our gabrament..
damn.. which part of NO did they fail to understand?? -
I think its like going street car racing.....
If you race, you must accept the whole package:
- You must know the consequences.
- You must accept that you might crash and die.
- If you race and drive casually (do things halfway), you might look like a joke.
- If you think its not for you, you can look for other safer sources of satisfaction.
Similar, regarding this IMF thing, you must accept the package:
- You must know the consequences.
- You must accept that there may be trouble.
- If you do it and do things halfway, you might look like a joke.
- If you think you can't handle it, you should look for other sources of satisfaction. -
See lah, now very embarassing already. Ban also jialat, dont ban also cannot.
Our govt is really powerless when it comes to dealing with foreigners. only for locals can they exert their full command and control.
They should tell these ang-mohs, take it or leave it (like how they treat Singaporeans). Dont want double standard but then backtrack again when under pressure.
Shame on the govt. So many high-salary scholars to plan the event but when something crops up, all gabra already.
This is the best showcase of our abilities which EDB cannot match. -
the thing with this administration and the ones before, is that they have this mindset that our exceptional nationalism is the best in the world and we can deal with the world our own way, in the most fundamentalist fashion.
We may not like it, but this is realpolitik, you cannot practise purist politics outside your own domestic sphere, and frankly, personally I would hae said no to hosting it here. What are the downstream benefits given the way we have done things?
Someone should be fired for this surrealistic lack of foresight. -
Singapore has alot of explaining to do, not only to us. But the media will just play it down, I mean our media.
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ok, who volunteered singapore to host the imf in 2003?Originally posted by LazerLordz:the thing with this administration and the ones before, is that they have this mindset that our exceptional nationalism is the best in the world and we can deal with the world our own way, in the most fundamentalist fashion.
We may not like it, but this is realpolitik, you cannot practise purist politics outside your own domestic sphere, and frankly, personally I would hae said no to hosting it here. What are the downstream benefits given the way we have done things?
Someone should be fired for this surrealistic lack of foresight. -
sorry hor, there is no local media as far as I'm concerned.Originally posted by ditzy:Singapore has alot of explaining to do, not only to us. But the media will just play it down, I mean our media.
If you are the type that reads global media everyday, our newsletter seems like a construction of wonderland. -
Don't ask me, if I knew, I'd push him into the mud-wrestling pit.Originally posted by ditzy:ok, who volunteered singapore to host the imf in 2003? -
george yeo?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Don't ask me, if I knew, I'd push him into the mud-wrestling pit. -
but of course ... if one swallows everything the "global" media says, then it's simply another form of naivete eh ? ...Originally posted by LazerLordz:sorry hor, there is no local media as far as I'm concerned.
If you are the type that reads global media everyday, our newsletter seems like a construction of wonderland.
c'mon, .... I expect you of all people to know what nasty pieces of turds these two organizations are ... you know what my friends from SHEEP are saying ? ... the IMF went in knowing full well that Singapore 2006 won't be like Seattle ... the IMF never had any interest in listening to any NGOs before in ANY meetings ...
suddenly, they have this huge interest in "listening" to protesters !!! ... note that the IMF have never, did not and probably will never schedule any meetings with them ... they are NOT REALLY INTERESTED ! ... it's all a wayang show for the media ! and now they are feigning surprise and disappointment at the garbarment's stand ? .... hmmmm .... slippery devils aren't they ? ...
we all have been taken for a ride ... and the IMF's the only one laughing ....
and some of us are still beating this issue to death ? ...
oh well ... *giggles ... -
the only clear winner here is Paul Wolfowitz. Anyone here knows if he's gunning for something more?Originally posted by Fatum:but of course ... if one swallows everything the "global" media says, then it's simply another form of naivete eh ? ...
c'mon, .... I expect you of all people to know what nasty pieces of turds these two organizations are ... you know what my friends from SHEEP are saying ? ... the IMF went in knowing full well that Singapore 2006 won't be like Seattle ... the IMF never had any interest in listening to any NGOs before in ANY meetings ...
suddenly, they have this huge interest in "listening" to protesters !!! ... note that the IMF have never, did not and probably will never schedule any meetings with them ... they are NOT REALLY INTERESTED ! ... it's all a wayang show for the media ! and now they are feigning surprise and disappointment at the garbarment's stand ? .... hmmmm .... slippery devils aren't they ? ...
we all have been taken for a ride ... and the IMF's the only one laughing ....
and some of us are still beating this issue to death ? ...
oh well ... *giggles ...
That's all I can say.
The global media has its agenda, the local media tries to build Disneyland, even bloggers among us like you and me have our own agenda. That's the only reality I gather. -
he's a republican ... and an ol' friend of our dear bushy .... surprised ? ...Originally posted by LazerLordz:the only clear winner here is Paul Wolfowitz. Anyone here knows if he's gunning for something more?
That's all I can say.
The global media has its agenda, the local media tries to build Disneyland, even bloggers among us like you and me have our own agenda. That's the only reality I gather. -
Looking from the other side of the pond, it is quite humourous to see a neo-con like Wolfy "embrace" the tenets of free society.Originally posted by Fatum:he's a republican ... and an ol' friend of our dear bushy .... surprised ? ...
At the press conference, he looks as nervous as how Lee Jr does in an interview.. -
it's like I've said ... we've all been taken for a ride ...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Looking from the other side of the pond, it is quite humourous to see a neo-con like Wolfy "embrace" the tenets of free society.
At the press conference, he looks as nervous as how Lee Jr does in an interview..
and of course, we all have our own agendas ... thought there'll be idiots around who've drank too much of the wrong sort of water ...
but it's interesting to see what sort of chaps are coming out of the woodwork on this ... -
hmm..Originally posted by Fatum:it's like I've said ... we've all been taken for a ride ...
and of course, we all have our own agendas ... thought there'll be idiots around who've drank too much of the wrong sort of water ...
but it's interesting to see what sort of chaps are coming out of the woodwork on this ... -
Well, its one cross after another. But really, I don't understand this issue of letting the NGOs protest in the open. You fence up the area with razor-tipped fences, you just let them protest in the sun lahz. You provide aircon, they complain you welfare, then tekan them lor, let them bake in the sun lahz. If you wanna be nice, show you got compassion, mebbe put two water tanks there lahz. Now outside got no shelter mahz...so its defined as in the open right? Then in the open they protest, at most you get the SOC chaps to surround them in riot kit lahz, they guai lan, just whack. The IMF and WB chief cannot say anything what right? If not, you let them protest in the open, but make sure the go inside an area surrounded by the razor-fence lor, if anything, they wana run also cannot run, then you can ask SOC or Grukha to chiong in and have a field day hammering them or live target practice mahz. Stupid siahz...scholar go top University never teach them this meh? Rules are meant not to be broken, but bent.
If paranoid that the 27 chaps might pull off some stunt, ok...create a tent city for them also IN THE OPEN but tell them they must scan their passport when they go out or something lahz, then IMF and WB chief also LAN LAN, cannot say anything what,cuz you can say in view of the current security situation we are putting the interest of our guests as top priority what right. They want protest, you let them protest already right? They want NGO ppl to come in, you let them to come in already right? They want to protest outside, since people don't understand your welfare, then you let them lor, protest outside lah. The agreement never say must protet under what conditions right? So there you have it. Sometimes, I feel that we the poor and common people actually possess more cow sense and look into the finer details of things as compared to scholars. Damn, I'm beginning to feel that we are all more clever then the scholars in our creativity problem solving abilities man.
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the silly decision on the 27 persons are made by those involved in security. Each should be proud of what he does. Those who cook should be proud if the delegates enjoy the food. If they insisted that everybody should enjoy singapore food and serve mee siam, laksa and curry fish head everyday, then they have reasons to be disappointed.Originally posted by CoolMyth:I think the people who were involved in the preparation of everything, from security, food, guides, etc etc will be so disappointed that everything they have contributed to this event will not be recognised and appreciated due to a silly decision made on 27 people.
If I were one of them, I will be damn disappointed. I pity those people, not the government.
So far I believe all other parties can be proud and they can make singapore proud. Its those in charge of security, going around killing ends with hammers, should be disappointed. -
Explaining? Whom to? The Singapore government has never thought itself accountable to anyone. Least so its citizens.Originally posted by ditzy:Singapore has alot of explaining to do, not only to us. But the media will just play it down, I mean our media. -
hmmm......you all should know what caucasians are like initially.......never been to their country??? .....any small little think that irks them........immediately they revolt and make a din of the whole issue.......perhaps it could be some ploy of some of them.........well i mean some take this chance to attack viciously at our system..........opportunists..........as this phrase goes.......stir up dissension and direct attention away from oneself...........
coming back to the issue to enlist the 27 people...or rather 22 of the 27........meant that we might have lost to their whims........
i would think ......since THEY are stepping on SG soil........you might as well SIT and listen to us take the RULING......NOT YOU RULING US.......what audacity.......you are on other people's domain and how dare you act like the host............
initially when the issues were brought out.....i also felt....maybe sg really taken a stance too great to the foreigners..........since they like their freedom......let them in........but if the activitists create any mess or commit any criminal activities .......you know the ROD is always on your butt anytime............