What happened to the youths in Singapore?
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While CSJ is not perfect, he is idealistic. What I find disturbing is the apathy among Singapore students.Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:CSJ will win against "glorified evils". I support him cos not a lot of ppl will be like him, stand out and fight for a needed cause.
Youths should be fired by idealism. What happened to the youths in Singapore? Where is the passion?
How is it that our university students can ignore fights for justice and democracy?
The general public might not be able to understand manufactured common sense (Gramsci, Antonio; ) the manufactured "common sense" that CSJ is the embodiment of evil and all evil.
If they are worried about repercussions; there is no need to protest and wear protest clothing but at least walk past CSJ, look him in the eye and give him a nod. They can then walk on.
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair
In '77 and '69 revolution was in the air
I was born too late into a world that doesn't care
Oh I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair -
We can then have a uniquely Singapore style of not protesting... streams of non protesting people queing up not protesting and saying "hi" to the protester...
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Those who wants to "silently" support CSJ at Parliament House, drive by and blast your horns 3 times.
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Muz be the fault of our overly meritocratic education Muz be the goverment fault nv start a anti-apathy campaign Muz be MOE fault
I dunno.. confirm not my fault!
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kk my fault im sorry
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The Singapore youths are like all other Singaporeans - politically apathetic.
The cause of this political apathetic malaise is largely the work of the Ruling Political Party over the last forty-five years of Singapore's political history.
It started with the neutralising of the Chinese High School students in the 1950s through the early 1960s, who were socially and political concious of the responsibility of the more educated towards their community.
In the 1970s, the students at the University of Singapore were politically active, especially those from the Political Science faculty, those in the Political Club, as well as the University of Singapore Students' Union (USSU).
The Ruling Political Party could not possibly have students from the Chinese and English streams being politically active, and drastic actions were taken to nip the threats in the bud before it gets too serious.
The government introduced Suitability Certificates to screen students before being allowed to apply to study in the University of Singapore, or even at overseas universities.
Even for those who slip past the preliminary vetting - to weed out politically undesirable student-candidates - the agents from the Internal Security Department will continue to monitor university students who are politically active on campus grounds.
In 1975, the President of the USSU - Tan Wah Piow clashed with the Secretary-General of the Pan-Industrial Employees Union (PIEU), and was later charged for rioting in the premises of the PIEU. He was tried in a 'kangaroo court' that was presided by a High Court judge that was unashamedly bias towards Tan.
The years of persecution of any political activists in the Universities has caused the death of political interests amongst wide sections of Singapore society.
One of the major moves taken to neutralise the threats of political activism amongst the university population was the closure of the Nanyang University - a university that was built by the contribution of the Singaporean Chinese Community, where the land was donated by Ngee Ann Huay Kuan, with the money was from the Chinese philanthropist - Mr Tan Lak Sye, and donations from the Singapore Chinese community and Businesses.
The Ruling Party has always feared the idleness of the educated mind, and this explains for the only single university in Singapore for more then twenty years before the Nanyang University was revived as the Nanyang Technological University - (and subsequently changed to the name adopted this day).
Are the Singaporean Youths to be blamed, or should we blame the Ruling Political Party for creating a situation which will surely lead to the decline of Singapore - as it is slowly happening ? -
but is garmen doin a gd job
so u tryin 2 say
support CSJ wrong
support LKY right -
Only apathethic mindlessly brainwashed will people conclude in such simplistic terms. Educated thinking people who try to see things in the true perspective will conclude like this guy below:Originally posted by tt3:but is garmen doin a gd job so u tryin 2 say
support CSJ wrong
support LKY rightOriginally posted by Atobe:
Are the Singaporean Youths to be blamed, or should we blame the Ruling Political Party for creating a situation which will surely lead to the decline of Singapore - as it is slowly happening ?
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ppl are willing to fight , but everyone who fights needs support , the problem is no one gives support and not willing to stand next to u and fight with u , most are ballless , u shake dem abit , they wobble like crazy .
last time ppl more daring to take a stand , cos u know your whole kampong will fight with and for u . -
i like that idea...but too bad...nowadays even friends oso won't fight with you...Originally posted by gUms:ppl are willing to fight , but everyone who fights needs support , the problem is no one gives support and not willing to stand next to u and fight with u , most are ballless , u shake dem abit , they wobble like crazy .
last time ppl more daring to take a stand , cos u know your whole kampong will fight with and for u . -
Oh yea, there will be people who will 'fight' with you, but only if you really know what you're 'fighting' for. Problem with some Singaporeans is that they are quick to blame everything on the government. I've seen countless posts that's anti-PAP/LKY/any authorities.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:i like that idea...but too bad...nowadays even friends oso won't fight with you... -
from your replies in other posts ....
you've confused alternate positions with apathy ...
you think people who think differently from you do not think, or are unaware ...
you think people who hold different views from you on issues are "brainwashed" ....
you're not much different really, from those religious fanatics who keep trying to shove their mantras down people's throats ...
get off this sanctimony and pompousness, you're sounding just like the men-in-white .... -
Okay its PAP fault
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there's always 2 sides to a story.
Local media potrays CSJ as someone dangerous, someone who do crazy things.
Foreign media potrays CSJ as a hero of sorts, someone who stands up to the "oppressive" system in his own country.
Its up to the individual to believe what he wants 2 believe.
I believe in the former. -
Fight so much for what? It does not help world peace at all.
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You might think so, that you have 2 sides of the story. Actually you do not. You have only one side, the propaganda... you cannot have 2 sides because you live in an oppressive society that does not allow free speech and free press... but I understand you, you have no choice... you were never given the choice...Originally posted by nanren4ever:there's always 2 sides to a story.
Local media potrays CSJ as someone dangerous, someone who do crazy things.
Foreign media potrays CSJ as a hero of sorts, someone who stands up to the "oppressive" system in his own country.
Its up to the individual to believe what he wants 2 believe.
I believe in the former. -
I believe in the latter, and I am proud to say that as a Singaporean.Originally posted by nanren4ever:there's always 2 sides to a story.
Local media potrays CSJ as someone dangerous, someone who do crazy things.
Foreign media potrays CSJ as a hero of sorts, someone who stands up to the "oppressive" system in his own country.
Its up to the individual to believe what he wants 2 believe.
I believe in the former. -
I beg to differ.
True, some may be apathetic, but most, I would say, are just plain scared. Look at the number of lawsuits for just saying one wrong thing and being sued till one is bankrupt bla bla bla, scares people off. They would rather not discuss about it, lest they get sued.
I know, you know, we know, that's all it's needed.
Not just for students, it's prevalent even in the previous generations. -
I mean why not even pay Dr Chee a visit... just walking past him on a public road is no crime... why no sms-ing to each other to pay him a visit?Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:I beg to differ.
True, some may be apathetic, but most, I would say, are just plain scared. Look at the number of lawsuits for just saying one wrong thing and being sued till one is bankrupt bla bla bla, scares people off. They would rather not discuss about it, lest they get sued.
I know, you know, we know, that's all it's needed.
Not just for students, it's prevalent even in the previous generations. -
I see the youths of today more interested in playing the latest ah beng / ah lian music on their handphones.
Nothing else.
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I dont know only time can tell!!!Originally posted by nanren4ever:there's always 2 sides to a story.
Local media potrays CSJ as someone dangerous, someone who do crazy things.
Foreign media potrays CSJ as a hero of sorts, someone who stands up to the "oppressive" system in his own country.
Its up to the individual to believe what he wants 2 believe.
For the time being, with an analytical mind, i believe in the later version. -
I've said scared. They assume that it's an offence to purposely pay him a visit. You walk past, you take a look and walk off, it's OK.Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:I mean why not even pay Dr Chee a visit... just walking past him on a public road is no crime... why no sms-ing to each other to pay him a visit? -
Maybe more pple dislike him than like him? Maybe not all pple like the type of freedom that he says he's fighting for. If he is to become the government, is he going to force pple to be free? A great deal of criticism about the lack of democracy in Singapore stems from the result that there's very little opposition in Singapore. These pple already perceived that there must be a lot of opposition in the Parliament and anything result contrary to their wishes is not democracy. They simply assume that anyone who hold a contrary view to them are not thinking or brainwashed. Could someone not go through critical thinking and adopt a different stand? By not respecting pple who adopt different stand, how different are these pple from the pple that they are "fighting" against. These pple are not different from the "oppressor" that they are against, they are just oppressors personalties not in oppressing positions. The idea of democracy is to allow different type of pple in the same camp, not to have the same type of pple in different camp.Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:I mean why not even pay Dr Chee a visit... just walking past him on a public road is no crime... why no sms-ing to each other to pay him a visit? -
the choice is yours. take the blue pill, wake up n forget anything that has happened or you can take the red pill, and u'll know exactly how deep the sai hole is.Originally posted by nanren4ever:there's always 2 sides to a story.
Local media potrays CSJ as someone dangerous, someone who do crazy things.
Foreign media potrays CSJ as a hero of sorts, someone who stands up to the "oppressive" system in his own country.
Its up to the individual to believe what he wants 2 believe.
I believe in the former.
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Yeah!Originally posted by Kouyou:the choice is yours. take the blue pill, wake up n forget anything that has happened or you can take the red pill, and u'll know exactly how deep the sai hole is.
dun u find tat s'pore system is kinda like e matrix?
anything tat doesn't belong gets 'deleted' by 'agents'