This is Police Intimidation; are we World Class Yet??
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before we go any further about maturity, and move away from the topics,
for those who keep pressing for freedom of speech, democracy.
-> what do you really want?
-> in terms of current exisiting environment, what you want change?
perhaps then we know how to discuss maturely and non-confrontational.
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Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:
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[b]The pics are actually very accurate portrayal of what every Singaporean is facing in a figurative sense: surrounded by fear and propaganda with stun guns and batons...
Only Dr Chee dares to stand up to it
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Hmmm... yahh.. you got a point there...
looks like how we feel day in day out...
fearful of speaking up, but sick of keeping quiet and "moving forward..." or "moving on..." - like sleigh-dogs - MUSH!! and the whip goes; 'ssweeeeppiisshhhh!' -
Originally posted by Urroh:
Hmmm. What CSJ is trying to do is to gain international support since he alone cant face sg gabment. There is a couple of international org that actually support him in his movement but todate still not much impact on sg gabment...
[b]Ya.. but CSJ choose to mix it together with the Australians as a show of unfair governance. It is unfair? Point is Our country dun get ruin by crimes or drugs wars..
To Onceinabluemoon, Anyway I had make my point and Singaporeans are not so brainwashed to know a pathetic opposition politician like CSJ is just a showboat. Anyway Singapore had a government fairly elected by its people, if any if the opposition show good promises, i believe pple will vote for them like the workers party.
Anyway we voters just look at Singapore Democratic Party to see how CSJ will ruin Singapore's name to the international media. Anyway the last elections saw that CSJ's party was walloped at the elections.[/b]
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Constantly dripping water, can erode a hole in hard granite stone.Originally posted by oldbandit:Hmmm. What CSJ is trying to do is to gain international support since he alone cant face sg gabment. There is a couple of international org that actually support him in his movement but todate still not much impact on sg gabment... -
It takes hundred of years to erode a hole in hard granite.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Constantly dripping water, can erode a hole in hard granite stone. -
oh god....will it take another hundreds of years for PAP to be out of powerOriginally posted by Urroh:It takes hundred of years to erode a hole in hard granite.
where's the nearest green card application form?
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Yes,u r right!Originally posted by Urroh:It takes hundred of years to erode a hole in hard granite.
But dripping water over this stupid gov's heads will make them go crazy only by months!!! -
Well... so long as years can be counted, there's no FOREVER.Originally posted by Urroh:It takes hundred of years to erode a hole in hard granite.
Nothing lasts in our world - especially us. -
I think he must have made a big impact... otherwise why are they so scared of him so as not to touch him and simply surround him like juveniles?Originally posted by ShutterBug:Constantly dripping water, can erode a hole in hard granite stone.
With our kind of propaganda press, even if he had lots of impact we will never hear of it.
I think the actions by the police towards him this protest spreaks volume.
LHL's brother and LKY other son had to step down because his stupid Optus investment burnt a big hole... in Australia, where there are well educated and clear thinking people who will stand up against injustice and oppression...
When LHL was in New Zealand, the press asked him about Chee, so embarassing... to be put in the same camp as the Burmese generals oppressing Aung San... -
So y not we stand up and make a better tomorrow for our future generation..Originally posted by ShutterBug:Well... so long as years can be counted, there's no FOREVER.
Nothing lasts in our world - especially us.
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I have a strong feeling, that they will wait till IMF WB and all their delegates have gone home, then they will come with their allegations towards CSJ.Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:I think he must have made a big impact... otherwise why are they so scared of him so as not to touch him and simply surround him like juveniles?
With our kind of propaganda press, even if he had lots of impact we will never hear of it.
I think the actions by the police towards him this protest spreaks volume.
LHL's brother and LKY other son had to step down because his stupid Optus investment burnt a big hole... in Australia, where there are well educated and clear thinking people who will stand up against injustice and oppression...
When LHL was in New Zealand, the press asked him about Chee, so embarassing... to be put in the same camp as the Burmese generals oppressing Aung San...
I'm pretty sure about it.....
Because right now, "the world" is in our backyard, and they chance not to further tarnish their already botched up PR with them and IMF / WB. -
sadly, not many people have the guts to stand up like Dr Chee, including meOriginally posted by oldbandit:So y not we stand up and make a better tomorrow for our future generation.. 
(for now that is)
most of the sgporeans are more concerned with how much money can they take home every month
not how much freedom are we given to exercise our rights -
It's not really the time yet, as there are not enough people who are willing to risk it all by truly "standing up for Singapore" 's freedom and original Democracy.Originally posted by oldbandit:So y not we stand up and make a better tomorrow for our future generation..
All of us are committed by career, property, and family.
Only man daring enough to risk everything and even his bloodline, is CSJ.
To effectively able to stand up against them, there must at least be 1 million people UNHAPPY.
But all 4 million of us are so accustomed to their brand of "HAPPINESS".
So, I say it will have to take TIME. Real time.... -
What can they do? Lock up the man and get condemnation from the United Nations? Lau Lee going to die soon, he worried about his reputation...Originally posted by ShutterBug:I have a strong feeling, that they will wait till IMF WB and all their delegates have gone home, then they will come with their allegations towards CSJ.
I'm pretty sure about it.....
Because right now, "the world" is in our backyard, and they chance not to further tarnish their already botched up PR with them and IMF / WB. -
But on a final note, I will say that any change at all, will have to be left not only to TIME, ....
... but NATURE and KARMA.
Cause and effects....
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Not personal? Funny? Not an Insult. Then what is it that you post above. Although it is a forum but you better mind yr words. Do not start flamewars or i will not hold back. Now back to serious discussion.Originally posted by foomwee88:
Pls dont take it as as insult it is just funny,mah!!!
R u saying by allowing more protest n freedom of speech like in HK n Taiwan will destory our economic n scare away foreign investments in Spore???
Pls answer?
May I know how u define the word of Democracy???
Dr Chee in Spore will be a next Taiwan Mr Shih Ming -teh in time 2 come!!!
Yup.. Stability will be gone. What i mean is prevention is better so as not to throw away the hard work of our forefathers.
Our country history has show us that the communists are the experts at this. In 1956, 149 days of strike are organised and Singapore economy at that time was crippled. You can see how many hours and money are lost through strikes. If the workers are to protest everyday, the country will suffer and you will suffer. -
Ohh... you'll be surprised what he CAN do to ANYONE on HIS soil...Originally posted by onceinabluemoon:What can they do? Lock up the man and get condemnation from the United Nations? Lau Lee going to die soon, he worried about his reputation... -
We as individuals are useless... we have to unite behind one man... one man who has a doctorate no less but is willing to put everything on the line... a man the world can respect... like Gandhi, he might very well turn down political office after the fight and his name go down in history in glory...
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You know, isn't it ironic that we (inteligent humankind) can harness and control powerful natural forces like electricity, large bodies of water, fire, and deadly chemicals, but not able to hold & controll public expressions???Originally posted by Urroh:Not personal? Funny? Not an Insult. Then what is it that you post above. Although it is a forum but you better mind yr words. Do not start flamewars or i will not hold back. Now back to serious discussion.
Yup.. Stability will be gone. What i mean is prevention is better so as not to throw away the hard work of our forefathers.
Our country history has show us that the communists are the experts at this. In 1956, 149 days of strike are organised and Singapore economy at that time was crippled. You can see how many hours and money are lost through strikes. If the workers are to protest everyday, the country will suffer and you will suffer.
By this statement, I am refering to the whole world, not only us here in SG. -
Hello, this is the new millenium.... he wont risk all that he had built up over one CSJ... we are no longer a small economy... a wrong move and you will see a 1997 style collapse; Singapore will rise like the phoenix from the ashes but his reputation will be gone forever.Originally posted by ShutterBug:Ohh... you'll be surprised what he CAN do to ANYONE on HIS soil...
When you are so old, you have nothing but your reputation... don't tell me he expects to bring his money with him to the grave?
but poor thing, you can see that he is getting old... suing FEER when he can actually do nothing to them except soil his reputation further and portray himself as an outdated old dictator. Those who cling on to power really become pitiful... -
the standoff continues today till this moment. there are at least 15-20 police stationed at the junction n across the road. only csj n his sister n a malay/indian man there. this is the latest updates.
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Too bad we have mouths to feed, house loans to pay. Anyway i think North Korea is more oppressed than us.Originally posted by ctstalin:sadly, not many people have the guts to stand up like Dr Chee, including me (for now that is)
most of the sgporeans are more concerned with how much money can they take home every month
not how much freedom are we given to exercise our rights
Seriously ever see a opposite party doin what CSJ are doing? Why i dun see Opposite party join CSJ protest against PAP Govt? This show even the opposition does not endorse their actions. -
I ask you; what is MOST precious to every living thing??Originally posted by ctstalin:sadly, not many people have the guts to stand up like Dr Chee, including me (for now that is)
most of the sgporeans are more concerned with how much money can they take home every month
not how much freedom are we given to exercise our rights
I tell you - FREEDOM. And I mean freedom of living your life, walking around, going to work, coming home to your family and hobbies of interests.
Knowing this, now imagine; he who dares risks having his living freedom taken away - such as locked up and away in some dark cell for infinite number of years - who the hell on earth isn't fearful of such a prospect? Except of course, our iron man CSJ.
He is wrestling with a Dragon. Slip and fall off the Dragon's back, he will be fritters.... -
They are bidding for time - our Godfather is old...Originally posted by Urroh:Too bad we have mouths to feed, house loans to pay. Anyway i think North Korea is more oppressed than us.
Seriously ever see a opposite party doin what CSJ are doing? Why i dun see Opposite party join CSJ protest against PAP Govt? This show even the opposition does not endorse their actions.
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Just ignore those brainedwashed sheep... if PAP tell them don't swim because you might drown, they will tell you, don't swim because you might cause a Tsunami...Originally posted by ShutterBug:You know, isn't it ironic that we (inteligent humankind) can harness and control powerful natural forces like electricity, large bodies of water, fire, and deadly chemicals, but not able to hold & controll public expressions???
By this statement, I am refering to the whole world, not only us here in SG.
up to 300,000 in Bangkok and no incident reported... gosh, brainedwashed to this extent...