Crap Hitting the Fan over LKY Remarks.... what's new?
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Indeed, people have died during NS...Originally posted by Rock^Star:Well, I have personally seen one Indian (from India) mother who claims that she knows the Lee family and asked for her son to be exempted from NS so that he may study in the US.
Awww.....the ultimate lame. What was she thinking? That her son may die in NS or something like that?
and there were so many cases. -
i'm waiting to see what's our gahmen response to this incident...
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They will always say something smart and brush it off lightly...Originally posted by kalangkabo:i'm waiting to see what's our gahmen response to this incident...
But if someone else offends them, they will move Mount Fuji just to make you pay for it dearly!
Very typical.
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everyone's waiting for an official reponse.. wats taking them so long i wonder?? foreign ministry go on holiday or wat??Originally posted by kalangkabo:i'm waiting to see what's our gahmen response to this incident... -
They must be holding lengthy phone conversations to negotiate for Face Saving way out of this...Originally posted by 4getmenot:everyone's waiting for an official reponse.. wats taking them so long i wonder?? foreign ministry go on holiday or wat??
But since our gov has been treating our neighbor so rigidly over many issues, I doubt they'd wanna save their faces... -
Did the Singapore government demand an apology from Malaysian politicians when they say Singapore Malays are marginalised based on their own assumptions?
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there won't be any official response lah...since when the garmen is accountable for their actions?
at most just more press statement saying that what MM said "is taken out of context", "regret for any unhappiness caused"
no apologies -
Our neighbours always say false things about singapore
and now MMlee say one true fact, many bent towards Malaysia.
How pathetic.
No Apologies needed. Its the plain Truth. -
Plain ARROGANCE you mean...
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In his twilight years, MM LKY seems to have a bad tendency to reminisce, perhaps to make himself relevant; as the truth of what he had said refers to the past - during the Mahathir's and Habibie's period in office - NOT THE PRESENT.Originally posted by NuLife:Our neighbours always say false things about singapore
and now MMlee say one true fact, many bent towards Malaysia.
How pathetic.
No Apologies needed. Its the plain Truth.
It has been three years since Badawi and Bambang have taken over the leadership; and with Bambang being the third Indonesian President since the small minded Habibie was unceremoniously voted out of office.
Prior to Bambang's term, we have seen the blind President Wahid Abdulrahman and Sukarnoputri both turning to Singapore for morale support and economic co-operation.
Singapore had 3 years of good and quiet relationship with Badawi, and more than 9 years of improved relationship since the ruckus with Habibie.
Why did MM LKY dig up old historical issues - and on international stage that smudge the image of our neighbors - by stirring up the painful historical events of Singapore's relationship with our two bigger neighbors ?
Why did MM LKY use their internal domestic ethnic issues that has NO BEARING to describe the PRESENT NEW relationship between Singapore and our bigger neighbors ?
Did MM LKY update himself with the new events in Malaysia and Indonesia, or is he still living in his old memories of contentious ethnic issues of fighting for a small economic pie ?
Both Malaysia and Indonesia have changed their domestic policies towards the Chinese - although seemingly small steps, it is nonetheless a far improvement from the darker days that MM LKY remembers during the 1960s through the mid-1990s.
MM LKY has got it wrong on both counts - he has not updated himself with the current policies of Malaysia and Indonesia; and he has not considered that the new Malaysian and Indonesian leaderships have not co-erced Singapore's Leadership in the same manner as past leaders of Malaysia and Indonesia.
In Indonesia's case, even under the 30 years of Suharto's rule, LKY seems to have forgotten his warm relationship with Suharto, with glowing words of admiration mutually given.
Since Suharto's unfortunate downfall, MM LKY has not been short of critical, condescending and patronising comments towards an 'Old Friend'.
Mahathir's caustic remarks of Singaporean leaders being a 'fair weather' friend seems to ring sharp and loud as any bell can ring.
With friends like LKY, do the leaders of Malaysia and Indonesia need any enemies ?
Do we need to look deeper for the toughness of Malaysian and Indonesian Politicians shown towards the Singapore Government under the leadership of LKY - whether he is the PM or MM ? -
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MM Lee to visit France, US from Sep 30 to Oct 22
By Asha Popatlal/Melvin Yong, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 29 September 2006 2000 hrs
SINGAPORE : Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew will be going to France for a 10-day visit from September 30 to October 9.
While there, he will attend the JPMorgan Chase International Council Meeting and call on French President Jacques Chirac.
He will be accompanied by Mrs Lee.
Mr Lee will proceed to the United States, where he will be visiting New York, Washington DC, Dallas and Las Vegas.
In New York, he will be speaking at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars Award Gala and receive an award for public service.
As Special Advisor, he will also attend a Citibank Board Meeting.
In Washington DC, the Minister Mentor will meet with US President George W Bush, Vice-President Richard Cheney and other senior administration officials.
Mr Lee will then proceed to Dallas where he is due to give a lecture.
He returns to Singapore on October 22.
Meanwhile, responding to a Channel NewsAsia query, the press secretary to the Minister Mentor said Mr Lee has written to Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi.
The letter is presently with the Singapore High Commission in Kuala Lumpur, ready to be personally conveyed to Mr Abdullah.
On Thursday, Singapore's High Commissioner to Kuala Lumpur was asked by Malaysia to explain recent remarks made by Mr Lee.
During an international forum in Singapore two weeks ago, the Minister Mentor had said ethnic Chinese minorities in Malaysia and Indonesia are being marginalised.
Prime Minister Abdullah had described the comments as unjustified and said that Kuala Lumpur was awaiting a response. - CNA/ms -
singapore dun like other ppl to meddle in our internal affairs...
wat makes the mm thinks he can go poke his nose into msia and indonesia affair?
if wat the mm said is true, it is up to the local chinese to change it, wat the mm said can't change anything -
Originally posted by Atobe:
Very well said Atobe.. Couldn't have agreed more... The truth will be out sooner or later. As a singaporean, EGO aside, apology to both the malaysians and indonesians... They are after all our closest neighbours
In his twilight years, MM LKY seems to have a bad tendency to reminisce, perhaps to make himself relevant; as the truth of what he had said refers to the past - during the Mahathir's and Habibie's period in office - NOT THE PRESENT.
It has been three years since Badawi and Bambang have taken over the leadership; and with Bambang being the third Indonesian President since the small minded Habibie was unceremoniously voted out of office.
Prior to Bambang's term, we have seen the blind President Wahid Abdulrahman and Sukarnoputri [b]both turning to Singapore for morale support and economic co-operation.
Singapore had 3 years of good and quiet relationship with Badawi, and more than 9 years of improved relationship since the ruckus with Habibie.
Why did MM LKY dig up old historical issues - and on international stage that smudge the image of our neighbors - by stirring up the painful historical events of Singapore's relationship with our two bigger neighbors ?
Why did MM LKY use their internal domestic ethnic issues that has NO BEARING to describe the PRESENT NEW relationship between Singapore and our bigger neighbors ?
Did MM LKY update himself with the new events in Malaysia and Indonesia, or is he still living in his old memories of contentious ethnic issues of fighting for a small economic pie ?
Both Malaysia and Indonesia have changed their domestic policies towards the Chinese - although seemingly small steps, it is nonetheless a far improvement from the darker days that MM LKY remembers during the 1960s through the mid-1990s.
MM LKY has got it wrong on both counts - he has not updated himself with the current policies of Malaysia and Indonesia; and he has not considered that the new Malaysian and Indonesian leaderships have not co-erced Singapore's Leadership in the same manner as past leaders of Malaysia and Indonesia.
In Indonesia's case, even under the 30 years of Suharto's rule, LKY seems to have forgotten his warm relationship with Suharto, with glowing words of admiration mutually given.
Since Suharto's unfortunate downfall, MM LKY has not been short of critical, condescending and patronising comments towards an 'Old Friend'.
Mahathir's caustic remarks of Singaporean leaders being a 'fair weather' friend seems to ring sharp and loud as any bell can ring.
With friends like LKY, do the leaders of Malaysia and Indonesia need any enemies ?
Do we need to look deeper for the toughness of Malaysian and Indonesian Politicians shown towards the Singapore Government under the leadership of LKY - whether he is the PM or MM ?
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