MM LKY ~~ " I'm Sorry. Still Friends?? "
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believe you guys will find this informative:
Malaysiakini
ThatÂ’s no apology, LKY!
Soon Li Tsin
Oct 3, 06 4:12pm
Was Singapore Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew sincere in extending an apology to Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi over the contentious remark that Chinese Malaysians are being marginalised?
Political commentators offer their take on his gesture.
James Wong Wing On, malaysiakini chief analyst
Lee Kuan Yew did indeed say sorry but he was smart as he did not retract what he said. In fact, he added some more issues in his letter involving (former premier) Dr Mahathir (Mohamed) and the half-bridge.
What he has said is, “Your politicians, including (Umno Youth deputy head) Khairy (Jamaluddin) and Mahathir, always talk bad about Singapore and the marginalised Malays there; all I did was to tell you what you’ve been doing.”
You must understand that the meaning of ‘sorry’ is not necessarily an apology. An apology normally comes with an expression of regret and remorse. Instead, Lee merely said the word ‘sorry’ and added more.
P Ramasamy, former political economy professor
To me the fact of marginalisation is obvious. It doesnÂ’t matter if it comes from Lee or not. There are Malays and non-Malays who are marginalised in Malaysia. You can look at the Chinese, Orang Asli or Eurasians and to some extent the Malays - they have not enjoyed any benefits.
It is a fact and it must be accepted, rather than just complain about it. It has been going on for a long time. Who cares if itÂ’s from Lee? It is a problem that we must address.
DonÂ’t focus on what Lee said. We must ask, are Malaysians happy? Is there national unity and integration? He must have had his reasons for saying what he said.
Mahathir too has said so many bad things about Singapore and Singaporeans have never reacted. Why are Malaysians reacting now?
We should not blow this matter out of proportion. We should look at the marginalisation in our own backyard.
Rustam Sani, former university lecturer in political sociology
This type of controversy will come around every few years. Both sides use the other to garner support in their own country.
When Singapore feels weak, it will come down hard on the opposition. If Umno Malays need support, as seen during (former deputy premier) Anwar IbrahimÂ’s case when the government was weakened, they pointed fingers at Singapore in order to regain support.
He (Lee) was not saying ‘sorry’ for what he said. He justified what he is saying by claiming he was then speaking to foreigners. His justification was, ‘I have to do this because you Umno leaders have made statements before on the Malays in Singapore.’
Both countries practise this racist perspective and will apologise over and over again, but (such situations) will still come back. -
Originally posted by Atobe:
You can write all you want. Matter if fact is MM Lee said it and got away with it. Period. If Mahatir or Badawi is right, then please go ahead and sue MM Lee.
Moron ? Is that a backhanded compliment of some sort ?
Which part of the 'moronic' line that you cannot understand that led to your remarkable conclusion, or have you read my statement with a preconcieved idea in your mind ?
The fact of the matter is that whatever the apology that has been made - and whether the truth has been said, is the apology of any worth when [b]"The damage has been done, as what was spoken before a seminar and heard by a large attendees of well established personnalities, was also printed in the Singapore Straits Times, distributed as standard fare to all the hotel rooms of the 16,000 delegates attending the IMF-World Bank Convention."
Based on the current policies of the Badawi and Bambamg Government, and their personal attitudes towards their respective Chinese Communities in Malaysia and Indonesia, LKY's statement are "... decidedly false remarks was compounded by the fact that he is respected as a leading Statesman, a resputable authority with supposedly close insight to this Region."
With this apology given, but not a retraction of the 'IRRELEVANT FACTS' to the present state of relations between Singapore and our two immediate neighbors, - "Can his views be relied on in the future, or has he got things muddled up with his old political baggage from a by-gone era ?
"Will he published his apology to all the World to know that what was spoken about Malaysia and Indonesia is false ?
He has demanded the same from those whom he has forcefully defeated for libel, and have extracted worst retribution from his opponents.
If Malaysia and Badawi accepts his apology with grace and let the matter lie, it will at least teach him to be more generous towards others, who may have 'inadvertently stepped on him on the wrong side''.
Sadly, it is unlikely that LKY will ever learn to be humble or generous towards those whom he has defeated, and grind into dust."
Did you read the last line of my post before forming your moronic conclusion ?
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Lest I forget.YOU MORON. -
Hasn't that been always the case?Originally posted by 4getmenot:since they are so resolute, firm subtle..etc..etc..etc..etc..
Y the u-turn on the ban of the activists during the IMF/WB Meeting??
seems to me the gahmen cares more bout listening to foreigners than its own citizens..
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Originally posted by highway69:
Why does it bother you if anyone should continue to write anything under the sun, as much as LKY will make his apologise in any fashion that he wishes to justify his position.
You can write all you want. Matter if fact is MM Lee said it and got away with it. Period. If Mahatir or Badawi is right, then please go ahead and sue MM Lee.
Lest I forget.YOU MORON.
The fact of the matter remains, he was inaccurate with the facts of the CURRENT RELATIONSHIP between Singapore with Malaysia and Indonesia - under Badawi and Bambang.
His pathetic apology is seen as half-hearted at best, and was not so cleverly written, as everyone could see that he had attempted to avoid the crux of the matter - which was the error in his IRRELEVANCE concerning the matter spoken under the present circumstances.
Did LKY get away with it ?
Can we trust your skewered views to judge the future ?
It is only left to be seen the consequences of LKY's continued arrogance with his 'disguised'apology, and perhaps we will get to see how pathetic your moronic opinions will turn out. -
some1 old le...don noe wat he talkin...
blur oready... -
It takes more courage to apologise for your mistakes and blunders but at least those words warmed the hearts of some chinese over there who has one way or another felt left behind or discriminated.
Any one old man across the causway ever openly apologise or sent a representtative to apologise for his old senile comments? No never ego's too high!
Anyway their pay so high let them do something why we bother..sit back relax and watch the movie. Popcorns anyone? -
Originally posted by Atobe:
What consequences you talking? Sanctions? Cut our water? Blow up Causeway? Please lah. For you info, pardon me for saying this, malysian politicians are just a bag of air.
Why does it bother you if anyone should continue to write anything under the sun, as much as LKY will make his apologise in any fashion that he wishes to justify his position.
The fact of the matter remains, he was inaccurate with the facts of the [b]CURRENT RELATIONSHIP between Singapore with Malaysia and Indonesia - under Badawi and Bambang.
His pathetic apology is seen as half-hearted at best, and was not so cleverly written, as everyone could see that he had attempted to avoid the crux of the matter - which was the error in his IRRELEVANCE concerning the matter spoken under the present circumstances.
Did LKY get away with it ?
Can we trust your skewered views to judge the future ?
It is only left to be seen the consequences of LKY's continued arrogance with his 'disguised'apology, and perhaps we will get to see how pathetic your moronic opinions will turn out.
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