FEER's bloody departing shots
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FEER has fired the departing bloody shots.i find them provocative and want
blood shed here..
They jus want racial riots happen again,serious.
FEER simply just want scholarships and jobs etc distributed by
races ratio.If cannot be done ,then the races under distributed,by the writers opinions,are not so smart.What a damn WRONG agrument! &$%...
The Charade Of Meritocracy,October 2006,By Michael D. Barr ,FEER.
Mr. Barr is a lecturer at the University of Queensland and author of Lee Kuan Yew: The Beliefs Behind the Man (Routledge, 2000) and Cultural Politics and Asian Values: The Tepid War (Routledge, 2002).
Thanks to CSJ link
more ammo are here to shoot this little red dot
Below are the examples of provactive sentences.But this system conceals several unacknowledged agendas.....
2.FEER is very generious.Free essay to thumb down SG.
Of the top 30 GLCs only two (6.7%) were chaired by non-Chinese in 1991 (and neither of the non-Chinese was a Malay).....
According to the logic of meritocracy, that means the Chinese have been getting smarter, at least compared to the non-Chinese.....
This makes the selection process much more subjective than one would expect in a system that claims to be a meritocracy, and it creates ample opportunity for racial and other prejudices to operate with relative freedom....
The advertorial articles accompanying the paid advertisements featured only one non-Chinese scholar (a Malay on a lowly “local” scholarship) amongst 28 Chinese on prestigious overseas scholarships....
A Chinese woman has a much better chance of winning an SAF scholarship than a Malay man.....
By contrast, neither Indians nor Malays received any special help, let alone schools of their own to address their special needs. They were not only left to fend for themselves, but were sometimes subjected to wanton neglect: inadequately trained teachers, substandard facilities and resources and the “knowledge” that they are not as good as the Chinese.
Financial Center Pipedreams,October 2006,By Hugo Restall ,Editor,FEER
Hinted by CSJ site.As it happens, Singapore's Newspapers and Printing Presses Act does not cover the online version of the Review at www.feer.com, where, the Review tells us, it will do its best to make its October issue available free of charge to Singaporeans. In addition -- and free to all readers -- the Review is posting the disputed article, the Lees' court pleadings and its correspondence with the Lees' attorneys and the Ministry of Information.
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Chinese people are just smarter and more entreprunial... Race doesnt play a factor in monetary and social contributions.
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That's a contradiction already.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:Chinese people are just smarter and more entreprunial... Race doesnt play a factor in monetary and social contributions. -
i mean, if u are smart, u do well and people will recommend you loh... will someone bring u down just because of ur race?Originally posted by aRcTiC_sTaR:That's a contradiction already. -
those figures dun prove a thing. if they dun have the capabilities no one will give it to them.
let them write, thats not important. btw i think that should be more targeted for defamation than the chee thingy but guess its about politics
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If LKY and son didn't give that FEER article a 2nd glance, do you reckon FEER would be giving departing shots now? I don't think so lor.
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i like LHL...
he became a brigader general at 32 years old. He is a very capable man. Can anyone else in Singapore rise so fast? -
If their daddy was Lau Lee, I don't see why not.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:i like LHL...
he became a brigader general at 32 years old. He is a very capable man. Can anyone else in Singapore rise so fast? -
The Editor of FEER need to attend Mass Media class to learn
reporting facts.He said:Then the Singaporean Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts announced new conditions to be imposed immediately on the REVIEW, requiring us to appoint a legal representative in Singapore to accept lawsuits, and post a S$200,000 ($126,000) bond to ......
2.The law is there long time but not enforced.Not a new law at all.Reason:Far Eastern Economic Review
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6 On 26 December 1987 , FEER was gazetted as a declared foreign newspaper for interfering in the domestic politics of Singapore .
http://www.mica.gov.sg/pressroom/press_060803.htm
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION, COMMUNICATIONS AND THE ARTS
3 AUGUST 2006.
3.Another old issue here:'THE INTERNAL SECURITY DEPARTMENT DETAINED HO KWON PING, FORMER EX-CORRESPONDENT FOR THE FAR EASTERN ECONOMIC REVIEW (FEER) ON MARCH 12, 1977''
He(Ho Kwong Ping) has now given a full account of how he became of Marxist,his pro-communist activities in the US and in Singapore,and how he made use of the FEER as a vehicle to promote his pro--communists ideas.
page 3 of the press release
4.Dunt write sg like banana country.Here in Sg,everything runs
by laws,even fixing foreign medias.
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Try picturing LHL side by side with ANY Brigadier General of the USA or any other developed country....Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:i like LHL...
he became a brigader general at 32 years old. He is a very capable man. Can anyone else in Singapore rise so fast?
... can you picture it?? Can you? Do you see any diffs??? Can you? Do you?
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
Our Law and World Law, is different; ours is "tailored"...
The Editor of FEER need to attend Mass Media class to learn
reporting facts.He said:
page 3 of the press release
4.Dunt write sg like banana country.Here in Sg,everything runs
by laws,even fixing foreign medias.
Reasons:LKY is accredited double first class in Laws.[/b] -
Ya, our laws is tailored to help......................
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lets play ball!!!!!
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By contrast, neither Indians nor Malays received any special help, let alone schools of their own to address their special needs. They were not only left to fend for themselves, but were sometimes subjected to wanton neglect: inadequately trained teachers, substandard facilities and resources and the “knowledge” that they are not as good as the Chinese
Correct me if I'm wrong.. I heard from my malay friend that they pay less school fees then me and my friends.. If call those not special help then what you call that? I think they better get their facts right or they will just get themselves fark up.
P.S. I think sometimes giving them some help here and there is ok.. But i think as long as you are capable you can be scholars.. Why not? they attend the same school as us? So what the fark they trying to say? I don't really get what they trying to bring up. I think they never do any research on this parts. They should just shut up on this part -
In a way, FEER is right, but the root of the issue is the that for many Malays, the educational path has been through a separate system - through Madrasahs which are intrinsically weak in education.
Where they have gone through normal schools or good schools, they have done OK.
So perhaps the solution is to shut down the Madrasahs and bring Malays into an equivalent stream of education.
With regard to scholarship, aren't there also Malays who become scholars? would be interested to hear the facts here - anybody?Originally posted by lionnoisy:
FEER has fired the departing bloody shots.i find them provocative and want
blood shed here..
They jus want racial riots happen again,serious.
FEER simply just want scholarships and jobs etc distributed by
races ratio.If cannot be done ,then the races under distributed,by the writers opinions,are not so smart.What a damn WRONG agrument! &$%...
[b]The Charade Of Meritocracy,October 2006,By Michael D. Barr ,FEER.
Mr. Barr is a lecturer at the University of Queensland and author of Lee Kuan Yew: The Beliefs Behind the Man (Routledge, 2000) and Cultural Politics and Asian Values: The Tepid War (Routledge, 2002).
Thanks to CSJ link
more ammo are here to shoot this little red dot
Below are the examples of provactive sentences.
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Lionnoisy is at it again, trying to incite hatred against anything non-Singaporean. He is as dangerous as any extremists..
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2.hey guys and girls .Feel free to comment if i am the one describedOriginally posted by LazerLordz:Lionnoisy is at it again, trying to incite hatred against anything non-Singaporean. He is as dangerous as any extremists..
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oei.. he gg to sue u for saying this..Originally posted by spinsugar:If their daddy was Lau Lee, I don't see why not.
if u think u can get a get a good and daring lawyer to defend (most probably foreign lawyer if u can get one), they will say foreign lawyers not allowed.. -
Ok bah, I have never seen him brand name people who disagree with him. Unlike some other people that I've seen here who simply call other people mindless, stupid or naive as long as their views are different. At least Lionnoisy's arguments are backed by facts and figures. He also played down a lot on emotion and passion. I think if he uses the same method but says anti-pap stuff, nobody here would think that he's an extremist, but once he identify himself as a pap supporter, he has become the prime target for arrows. I have also seen people who argued for freedom of speech verbally abusing him for supporting pap, kind of ironic actually.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Lionnoisy is at it again, trying to incite hatred against anything non-Singaporean. He is as dangerous as any extremists..
This forum is quite dominated by anti-pap people, but its good to let other views flow in. -
nonono, if they want to let other views in, there is always stomp.com.sg, st forums, and of course, the newly acquired HWZ forums.Originally posted by wisefool83:I have also seen people who argued for freedom of speech verbally abusing him for supporting pap, kind of ironic actually.
This forum is quite dominated by anti-pap people, but its good to let other views flow in. -
haha.. I think they have 2 BGs in the family. How many BGs u have in urs leh?Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:i like LHL...
he became a brigader general at 32 years old. He is a very capable man. Can anyone else in Singapore rise so fast? -
x2. Well said.Originally posted by wisefool83:Ok bah, I have never seen him brand name people who disagree with him. Unlike some other people that I've seen here who simply call other people mindless, stupid or naive as long as their views are different. At least Lionnoisy's arguments are backed by facts and figures. He also played down a lot on emotion and passion. I think if he uses the same method but says anti-pap stuff, nobody here would think that he's an extremist, but once he identify himself as a pap supporter, he has become the prime target for arrows. I have also seen people who argued for freedom of speech verbally abusing him for supporting pap, kind of ironic actually.
This forum is quite dominated by anti-pap people, but its good to let other views flow in. -
Agreed. I may not agree with everything that he posts but that's what makes a forum. We need balanced views and a holistic look at current affairs.Originally posted by wisefool83:Ok bah, I have never seen him brand name people who disagree with him. Unlike some other people that I've seen here who simply call other people mindless, stupid or naive as long as their views are different. At least Lionnoisy's arguments are backed by facts and figures. He also played down a lot on emotion and passion. I think if he uses the same method but says anti-pap stuff, nobody here would think that he's an extremist, but once he identify himself as a pap supporter, he has become the prime target for arrows. I have also seen people who argued for freedom of speech verbally abusing him for supporting pap, kind of ironic actually.
This forum is quite dominated by anti-pap people, but its good to let other views flow in. -
I can certainly give him his right to speech as long as he tries not to go overboard with his bashing of anything not Singaporean.Originally posted by wisefool83:Ok bah, I have never seen him brand name people who disagree with him. Unlike some other people that I've seen here who simply call other people mindless, stupid or naive as long as their views are different. At least Lionnoisy's arguments are backed by facts and figures. He also played down a lot on emotion and passion. I think if he uses the same method but says anti-pap stuff, nobody here would think that he's an extremist, but once he identify himself as a pap supporter, he has become the prime target for arrows. I have also seen people who argued for freedom of speech verbally abusing him for supporting pap, kind of ironic actually.
This forum is quite dominated by anti-pap people, but its good to let other views flow in.
It's not about who's pro-this or anti-that. He doesn't have a very balanced point of view, and that's what's irritating me... -
Editor says banned, sued magazine ready to fight in Singapore
HONG KONG (AP) -- The editor of the Far Eastern Economic Review magazine on Friday called a defamation lawsuit filed by Singapore's prime minister and a government ban on the magazine a coordinated attack.
Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his father, the city-state's founding former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, filed a lawsuit on Aug. 22 against Hong Kong-based Review Publishing Company Ltd. and the magazine's editor, Hugo Restall, over an article it published in July about Singapore opposition activist Chee Soon Juan.
Singapore's government later banned the Review because it didn't appoint a legal representative and pay a 200,000 Singapore dollar (US$126,150; €99,430) security bond - new requirements that are unrelated to the lawsuit, but that the Review has called unjustified.
The two requirements are among tighter restrictions Singapore imposed in August on five foreign publications: the Review, Newsweek, Time, the Financial Times and the International Herald Tribune.
Restall attacked the Review ban in an editor's note in the latest issue, published Friday.
"The timing and substance of this move (the new requirements) were in our view no coincidence," he wrote. "It followed hard upon our refusal to apologize and pay damages."
"With Singaporean efficiency, the government bureaucracy leaped into action on the Lees' behalf, imposing conditions with retroactive effect in order to force the magazine to put its head on the block for the Lees to chop off," Restall wrote.
The Lees' press secretaries and Singapore's Ministry of Information, Communications and the Arts did not immediately respond to e-mails seeking comment.
Speaking at a Review news conference in Hong Kong to launch a new economic index, Restall said the magazine plans "to defend the defamation lawsuit vigorously, and we look forward to having our day in court in Singapore."
The Review on Friday launched a new "Barometer of Asian Development" covering the past five years.
Thailand and China scored highest in the debut survey.
Asked why Singapore earned a top score of 5 in the survey's "openness and tolerance" category, Restall said the indicator doesn't measure freedom of speech but rather "openness to creativity" - or how suitable a country is for academic or scientific research.
Meanwhile, Paul Gigot, editorial page editor of The Wall Street Journal and Restall's superior, said the Review has arranged for its more than 1,000 Singapore subscribers to pick up the magazine outside the country or read it online.
The Review and Wall Street Journal are both published by Dow Jones & Co. Inc.
Singapore's ruling party leaders have successfully sued several opposition politicians and journalists for defamation over the years, saying they were protecting their reputations.
Domestic and international critics, including the U.S. State Department and London-based Amnesty International, have accused Singapore leaders of using such suits to stifle dissent.
Restall said the review, which switched from a weekly news magazine to a monthly opinion journal in December 2004 due to declining advertising revenue, is now profitable, but its circulation is smaller at about 16,000.
Feer ready to fight in Singapore