The Hubris of a GEP student at RJC
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So I hope she has the brains not to accept a dead-end job like such.Originally posted by charlize:Maybe she will become an MP chosen by the PM 2 elections later to connect with the young.
Just maybe.
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It's not a case of making right here - it's a case of opening one's eyes and seeing what's going on.Originally posted by anonymouscoward:As much as I dislike her views, personal attack on someone isn't very right. It brings you down to their level and display the level of maturity one has.
Someone said earlier - two wrong doesn't make one right.
Just remember who to vote for during the next election
If she has any brains (which I sincerely doubt), she'll see that if the PAP's guard dogs were ever to be taken away, there are people out there would would quite happily tie her to a tree and set her on fire. -
Ged, guard dogs are still dogs after all. No canine can refuse his own nature, nor a little treat from Beggin-Strips©Originally posted by Gedanken:It's not a case of making right here - it's a case of opening one's eyes and seeing what's going on.
If she has any brains (which I sincerely doubt), she'll see that if the PAP's guard dogs were ever to be taken away, there are people out there would would quite happily tie her to a tree and set her on fire. -
Ah, but gratitude is the disease of dogs after all, and the powers that be do make a point to keep their dogs happy and grateful, don't they?
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Dogs are easily goaded too.. just make sure not to get hantam-ed by the owner when you try to goad the pooch.Originally posted by Gedanken:Ah, but gratitude is the disease of dogs after all, and the powers that be do make a point to keep their dogs happy and grateful, don't they? -
Anyone read today news? lol she got reprimanded for writing the blog in an INSENSTIVIE way. But she still remain her stand. Her dad support her too. F
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Dude, it's all on the other thread. But I shall not waste anymore time on her, whatever she has written, doesn't affect me much.Originally posted by NewAge:Anyone read today news? lol she got reprimanded for writing the blog in an INSENSTIVIE way. But she still remain her stand. Her dad support her too. F -
Well Lordz, you know what the old sign says: "Forget the dog - beware of owner".Originally posted by LazerLordz:Dogs are easily goaded too.. just make sure not to get hantam-ed by the owner when you try to goad the pooch. -
Originally posted by Gedanken:Well Lordz, you know what the old sign says: "Forget the dog - beware of owner".
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Some people here criticized her only because she sounds like Pro-PAP, or simply just jealous of the fact that she was part of the GEP, something the vast majority of us ain't not.
Her point probably was that no one own us a living, that if we want to have a stable job, a family set-up in Singapore, we need 2 work harder and fight for ourselves. No one is going to hand it to us on a silver platter.
Unfortunately, the way she put it, I suspect, is in intention of adding humour to her way of writing. Which of course, is crass because it attacked the individual, rather than focus solely on the points raised.
Her meaning is well-intentioned, really, just that the way she put it across marks her out as simply arrogant, elitist, which we are quick to point out is representative of people in the GEP. -
You DO realise that if she read your post, she would say that no-one OWES (not "owns" ) us a living, and tell you to shut up till you learn to spell right?
Fortunately, we have people here who would not stoop to an ad hominem attack.
The fact of the matter is that she is way off the mark, as I have said earlier. Until she has faced the challenges that Derek Wee spoke of, who is she to pass judgement and ascribe it all to a lack of willingness?
Mind you, this is a girl who doesn't operate without a safety net, unlike Joe Public. If she does bollix it, Daddy Dearest is in a prime position to scoop her out of the pot.
Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that she's necessarily been riding of Daddy's coat tails. What I am saying is that, like most people her age, she does not have any experience of the pressure of being solely accountable for what happens to herself, her family, the roof under which she stays and the food she puts in her mouth.
As such, it's incredibly mealy-mouthed of her to presume that she knows well enough to tell Derek what to think and how he should live, and that, nanren, is the crux of the matter.
She, like her father and his cronies, has spoken well out of turn, because she is in no position to conclude that Derek is not trying hard enough, much less condemn him for it. That's simply being way out of touch with reality.
The fact of the matter is that, whether Wee Sr likes it or not, the government is charged with managing the economy, and the manifestation of the economy for Derek and all your other men on the street is how secure they feel in their ability to put food on the table. If the people do not feel they can do so, the government is doing something wrong. Young Miss Wee's little temper tantrum in no way covers up for her father's (and his poker buddies') failings.
Therefore, regardless of the presentation of the message, the substance of little Miss Wee's message is in itself wrong, and she needs to be called on that point, if nothing else. -
Below 2 articles are from our ranked 146th newspaper:
Teen blogger counselled for her 'elitist' remarks
A TEENAGE blogger has found herself in the soup after comments she made in her online journal were criticised by many Internet users for being insensitive and elitist.
Raffles Junior College student Wee Shu Min, a daughter of MP Wee Siew Kim, sparked a heated debate on the Internet when she derided another blogger, Mr Derek Wee, for his views on the anxieties of Singapore workers.
Both Miss Wee's father and the principal of RJC told The Straits Times yesterday that she had been counselled for using insensitive language.
Miss Wee, a second-year student on RJC's Humanities Scholarship Programme, has since shut down her blog and apologised for her comments, though not directly to Mr Derek Wee.
Mr Wee, 35, a Singaporean who works for a multinational corporation, had written in his blog on Oct 12 that he was concerned about competition from foreign talent and the lack of job opportunities for older workers here.
He urged the Government to understand Singaporeans' plight.
Last Thursday, Miss Wee responded to him on her blog, calling him old and unmotivated and said he was overly reliant on the Government.
In dismissing his views, she wrote:
'Derek, Derek, Derek darling, how can you expect to have an iron rice bowl or a solid future if you cannot spell?
'There's no point in lambasting the Government for making our society one that is, I quote, 'far too survival of the fittest'... If uncertainty of success offends you so much, you will certainly be poor and miserable.'
She concluded by telling Mr Wee to 'get out of my elite uncaring face'
Her attack was criticised by hundreds of Internet users, who accused her of being elitist, naive and insensitive to the lives of Singaporeans from humbler backgrounds.
Though she has shut down her blog, her entry has been replicated on many websites and the issue is hotly debated.
Technorati, a website that tracks the activity of blogs, yesterday listed 'Wee Shu Min' as its third most frequent search term.
Mr Wee Siew Kim said he stood by his daughter's 'basic point', but added: 'As a parent, I may not have inculcated the appropriate level of sensitivity, but she has learnt a lesson.'In his statement, RJC principal Winston Hodge said:
'We are disappointed with Wee Shu Min's comments on Mr Derek Wee's posting on the Web. 'We have counselled Shu Min and have conveyed to her the importance of sensitivity and empathy, qualities that she should have exercised in her response to Mr Wee.
'We are confident that she has learnt from this experience and will be the wiser for it.'
- Straits Times, 24 Oct 2006
My English is poor. Does the above constitute an all-out, unreserved apology to Derek Wee? -
A lesson learnt, says MP and dad Wee Siew Kim
'WHAT she said did come across as insensitive. The language was stronger than what most people could take.
But she wrote in a private blog and I feel that her privacy has been violated. After all, they were the rantings of an 18-year-old among friends.
I think if you cut through the insensitivity of the language, her basic point is reasonable, that is, that a well-educated university graduate who works for a multinational company should not be bemoaning about the Government and get on with the challenges in life.
Nonetheless, I have counselled her to learn from it. Some people cannot take the brutal truth and that sort of language, so she ought to learn from it.
In our current desire to encourage more debate, especially through the Internet, our comments must be tempered with sensitivity.
I will not gag her, since she's 18 and should be able to stand by what she says.
The new media of the Internet is such that if you don't like what she has said, you have the right of rebuttal.
Hopefully, after the discussion, everyone will be the richer for it. As a parent, I may not have inculcated the appropriate level of sensitivity, but she has learnt a lesson, and it's good that she has learnt it at such an early stage in life.'
ANG MO KIO GRC MP WEE SIEW KIM on his daughter's comments
- Straits Times, 24 Oct 2006
Again, my English is poor. Does the above constitute an all-out, unreserved apology to Derek Wee? -
Originally posted by Cindyfeh:
First sentence seems to imply that she's too young to know, second sentence seems to be the opposite.
[b]A lesson learnt, says MP and dad Wee Siew Kim
After all, they were the rantings of an 18-year-old among friends.
I will not gag her, since she's 18 and should be able to stand by what she says.
ANG MO KIO GRC MP WEE SIEW KIM on his daughter's comments
- Straits Times, 24 Oct 2006 -
What does it mean actually?Originally posted by Skibi:First sentence seems to imply that she's too young to know, second sentence seems to be the opposite.
It means no matter what you say, they are always right.
Comphrendez? -
Means that he is trying to score political points left and right by saying his daughter is young (not wrong, mind you) and that he is a great and supportive fatherly figure.Originally posted by Skibi:First sentence seems to imply that she's too young to know, second sentence seems to be the opposite.
Pui. -
Originally posted by Cindyfeh:
Did't the racist blogger used this as his defence too. Hes only insenstive about his words.
[b]A lesson learnt, says MP and dad Wee Siew Kim
'WHAT she said did come across as insensitive. The language was stronger than what most people could take.
But she wrote in a private blog and I feel that her privacy has been violated. After all, they were the rantings of an 18-year-old among friends.
I will not gag her, since she's 18 and should be able to stand by what she says.
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Elites' blogs and blogs of the common people are 2 very different things.Originally posted by NewAge:Did't the racist blogger used this as his defence too. Hes only insenstive about his words.
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No lah, this is a different case. Instead of insulting a religion or a particular race, his daughter is only insulting everyone else who is not in their elite class.Originally posted by NewAge:Did't the racist blogger used this as his defence too. Hes only insenstive about his words.
Hmm... wonder which has a larger audience.
Beside, when you insult a race/religion, it is seditious as you turn one race/religion against another. How can the weak and useless normal Singaporean turn against the elite class? Therefore, not seditious lor. -
wtf...even the principal of RJC sounds like an FT
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this thread still got so many replies still..
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Even her dad agrees with the basis of her one point. Enough of this people, let's move on!
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Originally posted by Cindyfeh:
MP Wee, please define the term 'private blog'. Should it be a private blog, there would be no search results from google, or even google cache (I tried this afew times, but not sure if it works for every private blog). But since google is able to draw search results, it meant that it isn't a private blog. What's more, even if the blog was private, it doesn't warrants such an insensitive article.
[b]A lesson learnt, says MP and dad Wee Siew Kim
'WHAT she said did come across as insensitive. The language was stronger than what most people could take.
But she wrote in a private blog and I feel that her privacy has been violated. After all, they were the rantings of an 18-year-old among friends.
I think if you cut through the insensitivity of the language, her basic point is reasonable, that is, that a well-educated university graduate who works for a multinational company should not be bemoaning about the Government and get on with the challenges in life.
ANG MO KIO GRC MP WEE SIEW KIM on his daughter's comments
- Straits Times, 24 Oct 2006
Again, my English is poor. Does the above constitute an all-out, unreserved apology to Derek Wee?[/b]
I quote an example. If I had a private blog. Does that warrant me to rant against a person i dislike and call such a person names? Certainly no, i could be facing a libel suit if that person decides to take action.
However I hope, the government would not sidetrack due to this issue. Please go back to Derek Wee's concerns ... -
WTF.Originally posted by charlize:Elites' blogs and blogs of the common people are 2 very different things.
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So whats the diff? She is fat has a mole on her face. Commoners have these properties too. Well, except she is rich and have a dad whose an MP.Originally posted by charlize:Elites' blogs and blogs of the common people are 2 very different things.
Really.