who r at fault n how to prevent this tragedy 2 happen again?
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employment is high but i think......i think only hor.....govt forgot to mention that there are a lot of people whose jobs do not match their qualifications.Originally posted by foomwee88:Not only diploma holders only, a guy reported on the news recently with a master degree has to do a year contract work in NEA for S$5 per hour.
I really cant under the employment rate claimed by our learned gov!!!! I think their statistics doesnot reflect the true fact of unemployed ppls in Spore!!!
If u had been to the first world countries in the west,u will know education level is not important to be employed but a skill in hand will definitely help. In addition,handyman makes more $ than an Uni graduate!!!
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The one with a diploma is certainly better off than one without any qualifications.Originally posted by Rock^Star:Doesn't mean that if one studies, one has a bright future. Just look at diploma holders today in S'pore, most are stuggling to start a family.
How much you earn will obviously depend on the nature of your qualification, the demand in the market and the number of competitors you face. You must consider how much demand there is in the market for your particular skill and how many people possess that skill or can acquire it quickly.
If you have a general Arts degree from NUS and decide to work as a bank officer, you are at a disadvantage. Firstly, your skill is not specialized enough: the bank can just as well employ a Science graduate rather than you. If they need more specialized skills, they would look for an accountancy or finance grad. What do you have to offer that other grads do not? Secondly, there are many grads in the market who can compete with you for the bank job you can do. Thirdly, even if you get the job, it wouldn't be difficult to replace you with a cheaper, fresh Arts grad 10 years down the road. Of course, if you are good enough and able to distinguish yourself in the job, that's fine...just that you have to work that much harder to keep your job.
Tertiary education is a significant investment of both money and time. You have to go beyond personal interests and also consider the direction of the economy. With the IRs coming up, there will be a demand for people with experience and skills with running a casino. If I were 17 and considering a tertiary education, I might consider a course in hospitality management with a special emphasis on the gaming industry. (For example, here are some links: http://www.morrisville.edu/academics/Business/Gaming_Casino/student_stars.htm
http://www.easb.edu.sg/updated_pages/uwic_baihm_cm.html).
I would intern myself with various big casinos in Macau and Las Vegas. When the IRs come online, I would be well-placed to find a job there and it is well-known that casinos pay well. There will be few in Singapore who have the kind of specialized skill in casino management and whoever gets there first will have a better chance of landing the job. -
Over the holiday with frds, there r 3 suggestions which might help 2 prevent the similiar tragedy as follows:
1 To set up an assistance poor bank with all workling ppls invest in this bank to lend $ to the really poor with the lowest interest rates in Spore.
2. To set up a co-ordination body, any outstanding bills be it electrial/water and school fees for more than 6 months must send them to the said org to investigate into the reasons.
3. An org arranging staff to pay a visit to all the HDB units in spore find out each n every housedholds' finanacial situation on site inspection,following which reported the real poor to the relevant orgs.
Any other ideas!!!! -
the problem is the govt's perception of a welfare state....to be totally anti-welfarism is also wrong....we must understand and accept that there are people in desperate need....i wasn't aware of the cadc refusing to help part but i'm not surprised....the so-called assistance are always inadequate and conditional.....in the end it's more punitive than helpful....
the grossly uneven wealth distribution in sg is another worring trend where the elite have too much in excess.. take the sgx chairman, he got a 80% bonus or rise in proportion to the firm's profitability, but does every sgx employee enjoy 80% too? if sg can take billions of dollars in business risk through temasek and other vehicles, should't sg take the risk in its own people? the dead man's son apparently did reasonably ok in his studies so the hope of them moving out of the poverty trap is good.....until we temper economic well-being with compassion, 1st class society is still very distant.... -
Its not that the Govt don't care for the poor. They do in their own way, they set up all the small organisations to help them provide these small organisations with the little budget to pay the social workers to help these people.
Talking about job, the average monthly income of a person is about 4k-5k i think reported in the news... this is because there are people that earns like 5 to 6 figure digits both in Civil service and private sector. Then you add the people that earn 2-3 digits together and you divide the pie.... wouldn't it look good. " Now we come to our average singaporean salary... hmmm... from the looks of it the average man has at least 5k in their pocket every month, everyone looks fine and well, Next issue pls"
Trust me people Singapore is a great place to stay other that the housing is kinda expensive and propably you need to pay of with you whole life and maybe pass the loan to your next generation to pay of as well if you guys been to Hong Kong the situation there is pretty bad as well. A 3 room condo apartment rental will cost you about 5k SGD. The spacing is even smaller than the 5 room flat.
Blame who .... life and inflation don't blame the Govt. I think they are doing their small part in ensuring that the people get to survive somehow (just my assumption).
But i have exp. that the top people would never never know what is happening right to the last man in their chain. We expect them to but its quite impossible.
For example (just an exmple) the CDO case that the guardsman died I believe that the Chief CDO officer have no idea about the incident untill it happen. just like everywhere has manpower cut but right at the top people sees it as its still ok while the last man is shouting "help is needed" but their officers has a bowl to protect and would not sound out that they need help as they need that close 5 digit bowl to survive in the environment. If they did sound out it would be a problem and they would not want problems during their tour of duty. Problem without solution are always shelfed to somewhere and ignored and people tend to do that. Like they always s.hit always roll down the hill they never flow up.
I mean come on what more do you want the Govt to do for you. They gave you ERS, and what's the other one... they increase the GST to only 5% look at other country they have 16 -18 % count ourselves lucky. The resturant charges you 10% service charge and on top of that another 5 % GST. Look its still lower that 16-18%.
With that said I think we should always give the Govt to do what they must and do our own part to survive this country. Cause surviving is our natural instinct. -
Fully agreed!!Originally posted by countdracula:the problem is the govt's perception of a welfare state....to be totally anti-welfarism is also wrong....we must understand and accept that there are people in desperate need....i wasn't aware of the cadc refusing to help part but i'm not surprised....the so-called assistance are always inadequate and conditional.....in the end it's more punitive than helpful....
the grossly uneven wealth distribution in sg is another worring trend where the elite have too much in excess.. take the sgx chairman, he got a 80% bonus or rise in proportion to the firm's profitability, but does every sgx employee enjoy 80% too? if sg can take billions of dollars in business risk through temasek and other vehicles, should't sg take the risk in its own people? the dead man's son apparently did reasonably ok in his studies so the hope of them moving out of the poverty trap is good.....until we temper economic well-being with compassion, 1st class society is still very distant....
There is no perfect country!!!but put it that welfarism is not good as an first agenda just like hospital would be misused is the same kind of thinking!!!
Who want 2 get sick 2 be admiited 2 a hospital? It is a fun place??? just the same thought who doesnot want 2 be employed 2 q up 2 get a welfare $?? it is a shame to most of us!!!!that why we c all these old ppls they rather collected papers n tins from the bins n dont want u 2 help them ??? why????
Gov pls wake up yr bloody idea::: we rather die but we dont want 2 be insultedl
Pls remember we hve 200k ppls in overseas if u dont do to help the poors, we will do it ourself ,we hve bones!!!! -
Our gov in their 'own' ways they have set up these small organisations with 'small' budgets to help. But let me ask; how come they can blow away hundreds of millions (and even billions) of public money in ill managed overseas investments, but can't bring themselves to invest a few millions to help poor public members? Instead of helping the needies, they put them through a hell of an obstacle course.Originally posted by IronBandit:Its not that the Govt don't care for the poor. They do in their own way, they set up all the small organisations to help them provide these small organisations with the little budget to pay the social workers to help these people.
Talking about job, the average monthly income of a person is about 4k-5k i think reported in the news... this is because there are people that earns like 5 to 6 figure digits both in Civil service and private sector. Then you add the people that earn 2-3 digits together and you divide the pie.... wouldn't it look good. " Now we come to our average singaporean salary... hmmm... from the looks of it the average man has at least 5k in their pocket every month, everyone looks fine and well, Next issue pls"
Trust me people Singapore is a great place to stay other that the housing is kinda expensive and propably you need to pay of with you whole life and maybe pass the loan to your next generation to pay of as well if you guys been to Hong Kong the situation there is pretty bad as well. A 3 room condo apartment rental will cost you about 5k SGD. The spacing is even smaller than the 5 room flat.
Blame who .... life and inflation don't blame the Govt. I think they are doing their small part in ensuring that the people get to survive somehow (just my assumption).
But i have exp. that the top people would never never know what is happening right to the last man in their chain. We expect them to but its quite impossible.
For example (just an exmple) the CDO case that the guardsman died I believe that the Chief CDO officer have no idea about the incident untill it happen. just like everywhere has manpower cut but right at the top people sees it as its still ok while the last man is shouting "help is needed" but their officers has a bowl to protect and would not sound out that they need help as they need that close 5 digit bowl to survive in the environment. If they did sound out it would be a problem and they would not want problems during their tour of duty. Problem without solution are always shelfed to somewhere and ignored and people tend to do that. Like they always s.hit always roll down the hill they never flow up.
I mean come on what more do you want the Govt to do for you. They gave you ERS, and what's the other one... they increase the GST to only 5% look at other country they have 16 -18 % count ourselves lucky. The resturant charges you 10% service charge and on top of that another 5 % GST. Look its still lower that 16-18%.
With that said I think we should always give the Govt to do what they must and do our own part to survive this country. Cause surviving is our natural instinct.
Don't be naive, soon our GST charges will reach 16-18%!! -
Some of our relatives r in Hk,dont bluff us oh !!!we hve 200k sporeans all over the world!!we paid them visits in HK at least twice a yr!!!if you r unemployed n old,u r paid HK$2000 p.m/per person n there is no GST in HK 4 the time being!!!Originally posted by IronBandit:Its not that the Govt don't care for the poor. They do in their own way, they set up all the small organisations to help them provide these small organisations with the little budget to pay the social workers to help these people.
Talking about job, the average monthly income of a person is about 4k-5k i think reported in the news... this is because there are people that earns like 5 to 6 figure digits both in Civil service and private sector. Then you add the people that earn 2-3 digits together and you divide the pie.... wouldn't it look good. " Now we come to our average singaporean salary... hmmm... from the looks of it the average man has at least 5k in their pocket every month, everyone looks fine and well, Next issue pls"
Trust me people Singapore is a great place to stay other that the housing is kinda expensive and propably you need to pay of with you whole life and maybe pass the loan to your next generation to pay of as well if you guys been to Hong Kong the situation there is pretty bad as well. A 3 room condo apartment rental will cost you about 5k SGD. The spacing is even smaller than the 5 room flat.
Blame who .... life and inflation don't blame the Govt. I think they are doing their small part in ensuring that the people get to survive somehow (just my assumption).
But i have exp. that the top people would never never know what is happening right to the last man in their chain. We expect them to but its quite impossible.
For example (just an exmple) the CDO case that the guardsman died I believe that the Chief CDO officer have no idea about the incident untill it happen. just like everywhere has manpower cut but right at the top people sees it as its still ok while the last man is shouting "help is needed" but their officers has a bowl to protect and would not sound out that they need help as they need that close 5 digit bowl to survive in the environment. If they did sound out it would be a problem and they would not want problems during their tour of duty. Problem without solution are always shelfed to somewhere and ignored and people tend to do that. Like they always s.hit always roll down the hill they never flow up.
I mean come on what more do you want the Govt to do for you. They gave you ERS, and what's the other one... they increase the GST to only 5% look at other country they have 16 -18 % count ourselves lucky. The resturant charges you 10% service charge and on top of that another 5 % GST. Look its still lower that 16-18%.
With that said I think we should always give the Govt to do what they must and do our own part to survive this country. Cause surviving is our natural instinct.
I hope u dont think we r idiots n give us all this shti!!!
Pls provide us with some comstructive ideas instead of bull shtiing ard !!! -
To add onOriginally posted by ShutterBug:Our gov in their 'own' ways they have set up these small organisations with 'small' budgets to help. But let me ask; how come they can blow away hundreds of millions (and even billions) of public money in ill managed overseas investments, but can't bring themselves to invest a few millions to help poor public members? Instead of helping the needies, they put them through a hell of an obstacle course.
Don't be naive, soon our GST charges will reach 16-18%!!
With the money paid to the ex NKF boss, the organisation can help alot of this smaller charity organisation.
with $600K peanuts money, i can help 1000 families each getting $600 -
Just wandering
The "progress package" that gov gives don't help. It is a big effort from the gov to share the surplus from running the country. -
May I know how much u paid 4 the GST,transportation cost n electricity n water bills per yr,the PP had oreli gone with yr urine into the WC.Originally posted by justcooler:Just wandering
The "progress package" that gov gives don't help. It is a big effort from the gov to share the surplus from running the country. -
which of the above is/r workable in Spore???Originally posted by foomwee88:Over the holiday with frds, there r 3 suggestions which might help 2 prevent the similiar tragedy as follows:
1 To set up an assistance poor bank with all workling ppls invest in this bank to lend $ to the really poor with the lowest interest rates in Spore.
2. To set up a co-ordination body, any outstanding bills be it electrial/water and school fees for more than 6 months must send them to the said org to investigate into the reasons.
3. An org arranging staff to pay a visit to all the HDB units in spore find out each n every housedholds' finanacial situation on site inspection,following which reported the real poor to the relevant orgs.
Any other ideas!!!!
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Who to blame ? Maybe the guy who jump in front of MRT should be blame.Originally posted by foomwee88:Who to be blamed 4 this tragedy occured in Spore?
MPs n GR leader in West Coast GRC or the social workers or the schools Principals or others
How we can render our helps to prevent this tragedy to happen again???
FOC canteen 4 all poors n needy ppls regardless of races n religions, any ideals??
Why ? He should have jump in front of the the Prime Ministor car outside paraliment , MRT too far for them to see. Must jump in front and died in front then Prime ministor and MPs can see. -
AGREE, so what else did the gov did to help ha ???Originally posted by foomwee88:May I know how much u paid 4 the GST,transportation cost n electricity n water bills per yr,the PP had oreli gone with yr urine into the WC. 
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The priority of our sg gov is not to help but to prevent our poors to cheat them for $!!that why they alway say we must not let our citizens to misuse our hospitals as if we like to be sick n be admitted to the hospital where they think is a fanland!! .Originally posted by justcooler:AGREE, so what else did the gov did to help ha ???
This sg gov's mindset has 2 be changed otherwise pls dont claim we r a first world country.
Sg gov had sucked so much bloods from our ppls, it is time to show their mercy to really helping the poors instead of letting the CDC,RC n CC to play2. -
For your information and the rest yes some of your relatives is in HK but where do they stay ? mine stays in HK top district and they are complaining as they are paying 5k plus SGD for their apartment but luckily its on their company's money and not theirs. The GST i was talking about is other countries like Canada Vancouver is at 15% and Alberta was at 12 % if i remember correctly last year i was visiting my relative and a two week trip cost me like 8k plus. I'm not saying that we should ask the Govt for help but do you know the concept of living ? if everyone like you say don't work and go on Govt grants like HK and Canada do you know how much tax you might need to pay? 40% to cover other people's expenses. Think about it for every 1k you make $400 goes to someone who sits on his/her ass and still gets part of your $400.
If you are ok with that start practicing that on your next pay check I'll like to see how generous you are as you seem to be so quick with words.
I think you not as idiots and giving you all the rest of the people crap, you have your opinion I don't go around saying that your ideas and view are Bull crap?
Have a little respect for other people's view as you only have relative inHK I have relative in HK, Taiwan and Canada as well so if you are less travelled I think everyone would appreciate you keeping you language to yourself and keeping your hands to yourself and stop typing.
Last but not least I'm writing this way cause you have no respect for me that's y I have none for you as well.
If you are so constructive don't just put them here, write to the PM or your minister and get things done don't talk air, you are called Bull crap with "constrcutive ideas" that don't work and doesn't have any value.
Bull CraperOriginally posted by foomwee88:Some of our relatives r in Hk,dont bluff us oh !!!we hve 200k sporeans all over the world!!we paid them visits in HK at least twice a yr!!!if you r unemployed n old,u r paid HK$2000 p.m/per person n there is no GST in HK 4 the time being!!!
I hope u dont think we r idiots n give us all this shti!!!
Pls provide us with some comstructive ideas instead of bull shtiing ard !!! -
Holiday so free to think put some action into it do some volunteer work and help the people you are so for to help maybe share some of your pay every month with them.
1. Setup a bank and all working people invest - this would not be a bank its a charity organisation go and find out more on how a bank is setup, lowest interest rate - your workers pay free? Tell me how lowest is you lowest? 0.01 %? Criteria for loan... as long you are really poor can borrow. Borrow do what ? start business ? So how much can you loan the person? If he lose it all are you going to lend him/her again?
2. For your info there are organisation doing these already in helping people to have eletricity and water to their home and pay the bear minimum like $50 or something. You should read more news and not just open your gap go and search the news you would find that there are grants set up to help ssuch families
3. For your information one thing about most of us chinese its a bad trait its "Pride" we have so much pride that we can't put it aside and ask for help. Remember I said most Chinese. There are some that have thick skin. They gamble away the money and say they are poor?
Let me tell you how they Govt find this piece of information out... they took the high income earners and low earners together and made an average and last year it was reported an average man gets about 4k -5k monthly... my god we are doing so well.
Frankly, I'm not angry with you for you nasty comments just come back to the real world and don't leave in your La La Land. If you really want to help don't use your hands and type only, use them to really help like passing money to the poorer or even give time to these people on your weekends and not get together with your friends and come up with solution and post and no one knows about it send it the relevent authorities and ask for it to be implemented.
Happy Holidays foomwee88Originally posted by foomwee88:Over the holiday with frds, there r 3 suggestions which might help 2 prevent the similiar tragedy as follows:
1 To set up an assistance poor bank with all workling ppls invest in this bank to lend $ to the really poor with the lowest interest rates in Spore.
2. To set up a co-ordination body, any outstanding bills be it electrial/water and school fees for more than 6 months must send them to the said org to investigate into the reasons.
3. An org arranging staff to pay a visit to all the HDB units in spore find out each n every housedholds' finanacial situation on site inspection,following which reported the real poor to the relevant orgs.
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Reading through yr whole posting, I dont know what r u talking about?Originally posted by IronBandit:For your information and the rest yes some of your relatives is in HK but where do they stay ? mine stays in HK top district and they are complaining as they are paying 5k plus SGD for their apartment but luckily its on their company's money and not theirs. The GST i was talking about is other countries like Canada Vancouver is at 15% and Alberta was at 12 % if i remember correctly last year i was visiting my relative and a two week trip cost me like 8k plus. I'm not saying that we should ask the Govt for help but do you know the concept of living ? if everyone like you say don't work and go on Govt grants like HK and Canada do you know how much tax you might need to pay? 40% to cover other people's expenses. Think about it for every 1k you make $400 goes to someone who sits on his/her ass and still gets part of your $400.
If you are ok with that start practicing that on your next pay check I'll like to see how generous you are as you seem to be so quick with words.
I think you not as idiots and giving you all the rest of the people crap, you have your opinion I don't go around saying that your ideas and view are Bull crap?
Have a little respect for other people's view as you only have relative inHK I have relative in HK, Taiwan and Canada as well so if you are less travelled I think everyone would appreciate you keeping you language to yourself and keeping your hands to yourself and stop typing.
Last but not least I'm writing this way cause you have no respect for me that's y I have none for you as well.
If you are so constructive don't just put them here, write to the PM or your minister and get things done don't talk air, you are called Bull crap with "constrcutive ideas" that don't work and doesn't have any value.
Bull Craper
What were yr travelling to Canada cost S$8,000 relates to the subject matter?Just 2 bull ard that u r rich n hve $ right!!!
Can u answer me whether HK,Canada n other European countries r less developed than us??If no, thinking why the poor ppls there r assisted with S$500 per month where the poors in spore hve to commited suicide for just a thousands $ plus.
Respect is to be earned like providing constrctive ideas n not to bull shti ard n told lie . -
Thk u very much 4 yr comments!!!Originally posted by IronBandit:Holiday so free to think put some action into it do some volunteer work and help the people you are so for to help maybe share some of your pay every month with them.
1. Setup a bank and all working people invest - this would not be a bank its a charity organisation go and find out more on how a bank is setup, lowest interest rate - your workers pay free? Tell me how lowest is you lowest? 0.01 %? Criteria for loan... as long you are really poor can borrow. Borrow do what ? start business ? So how much can you loan the person? If he lose it all are you going to lend him/her again?
2. For your info there are organisation doing these already in helping people to have eletricity and water to their home and pay the bear minimum like $50 or something. You should read more news and not just open your gap go and search the news you would find that there are grants set up to help ssuch families
3. For your information one thing about most of us chinese its a bad trait its "Pride" we have so much pride that we can't put it aside and ask for help. Remember I said most Chinese. There are some that have thick skin. They gamble away the money and say they are poor?
Let me tell you how they Govt find this piece of information out... they took the high income earners and low earners together and made an average and last year it was reported an average man gets about 4k -5k monthly... my god we are doing so well.
Frankly, I'm not angry with you for you nasty comments just come back to the real world and don't leave in your La La Land. If you really want to help don't use your hands and type only, use them to really help like passing money to the poorer or even give time to these people on your weekends and not get together with your friends and come up with solution and post and no one knows about it send it the relevent authorities and ask for it to be implemented.
Happy Holidays foomwee88
Will reply to u in due course for there r oveaseas frhs n counterparts come 2 Spore!!! -
All i can say is
1st class country...... last class welfare
It seem that in the mist of development, the slow runners are forgotten marginalised, ignored ......
Develop everything except welfare. and if they give some they take back double of what they had provided -
Welfarism promotes a dependent culture. Just look at the many drug addicts and single mothers in Europe who are happy to rely on the earnings of hard-working citizens to sustain their decadent lifestyle. No wonder they attract illegal immigrants from all over the world.Originally posted by justcooler:All i can say is
1st class country...... last class welfare
It seem that in the mist of development, the slow runners are forgotten marginalised, ignored ......
Develop everything except welfare. and if they give some they take back double of what they had provided
The poor needs to be helped to help themselves. There must be conditions to assistance. Giving a balnk cheque to the poor is the fastest way to produce another generation of welfare recipients.
I have met people who have come for financial assistance. Some are willing to help themselves pull out of the deep and deserve to be helped. But there are also those who have a bad attitude problem, unwilling to take orders and quarrel with bosses and colleagues in every job. Their families suffer because there is no way we can assist their family if the husband refuses to hold a job for more than a month.
For women, look around carefully. You and your children will suffer if you marry a loser. -
There's a saying about Hongkongers: In HK, there are high mountains and deep waters but the HongKonger's compassion is thinner than a piece of paper.
No point reasoning with a Hongkonger. -
If you can't understand too bad for you probably you have a lower IQ from others.
Hello travel to Canada if $8000 is for average people and more over is to attend funeral of loved ones not go there and shiok. My point is that even putting up there for 2 weeks cost that amount of money do you still think its cheap here? I would like to see you foot the bill for 2 weeks 8k. I can use that to survive in Singapore for half a year or more. And if I was rich would I care? talking about bull you all the bull all words and no action. Did you do any volunteer work recently? help some old people clean their homes for free or you are just one of those idealist use mouth talk talk talk and came to action too busy to help?If you are none of the above don't tell others they are bull... you are the bull.
For your info I'm not rich I am average S'porean like everyone else takes MRT, bus walk and eat hawker / home cook. But i do volunteer work at least once every three month helping old people clean their one room flat room. I know its really little but at least i try a little. So when was your last time? ooops ooops you are all talk no action? oooops ooops?
HK and some European countries, some are really less develop than us. Don't believe every image on the TV set they might not be all real. If you have been to europe, you will know some parts of it are just as bad as the third world countries, I've not beenmy self but some of my old classmates have and they show me pics of them. Ask around your friend, don't ask those on holidays for goodness sake ask those that go there to study and does a little travelling they would tell you that not all places are developed like in the TV box.
How sure are you that these people are getting assisted?
Do you know how they recieve assistance?
What conditions does these people get assistance have before assistance are provided?
Do you know why the person jump?
Are you familiar with his condition ? Does he gambles, did he save ? did he not save?
Talk about Bull Sh.it. You know nothing and you open your big mouth and talk and accuse others ok in this case me?
Correct respect is to be earn. People like you are just idealist with a mouth and a useless hand for typing. Come to action don't know where you will hide.
Ask you for help you would just shun away and so did you donate anything to the family of the man that jump? I think not foomwee88.
And its tell lie not told lie. You not only have low EQ, you have poor english and low IQ. Read more about the world sucker before coming here to debate. And providing constructive ideas you are not qualified yet.Originally posted by foomwee88:Reading through yr whole posting, I dont know what r u talking about?
What were yr travelling to Canada cost S$8,000 relates to the subject matter?Just 2 bull ard that u r rich n hve $ right!!!
Can u answer me whether HK,Canada n other European countries r less developed than us??If no, thinking why the poor ppls there r assisted with S$500 per month where the poors in spore hve to commited suicide for just a thousands $ plus.
Respect is to be earned like providing constrctive ideas n not to bull shti ard n told lie . -
Thank you for speaking Oxford.
Welfarism promotes a dependent culture this I totally agree. and not just that it also reduces the country's economy as people would not want to work as they compare and think, "If I don't work I still get to eat, Govt will feed me."
And if every single person in that country have the same idea the country will go bankrupt.
The poor nees to be help only if they need to be and ask for it. Conditions is a must so must leeways and flexibility must be adopted as well.
foomwee88 please read the thread by oxford mushroom.
oxford I can't agree with you more on some of the points
Cheers and happy holidaysOriginally posted by oxford mushroom:Welfarism promotes a dependent culture. Just look at the many drug addicts and single mothers in Europe who are happy to rely on the earnings of hard-working citizens to sustain their decadent lifestyle. No wonder they attract illegal immigrants from all over the world.
The poor needs to be helped to help themselves. There must be conditions to assistance. Giving a balnk cheque to the poor is the fastest way to produce another generation of welfare recipients.
I have met people who have come for financial assistance. Some are willing to help themselves pull out of the deep and deserve to be helped. But there are also those who have a bad attitude problem, unwilling to take orders and quarrel with bosses and colleagues in every job. Their families suffer because there is no way we can assist their family if the husband refuses to hold a job for more than a month.
For women, look around carefully. You and your children will suffer if you marry a loser. -
I m a stupid person n only has a PSLE education level!!!
But I will not like 2 argue with ppls who r below that level!!!!
I hve overseas frds come over here to discuss million $ project n hve an analytical mind to discuss wat to do n how to prevent the tragedy happen again ,if possible.
We hve paid the deceased last respect n donated $ to the deceased family.
My wife n our family had donated $ every month to the charitable orgs except the Gods Orgs like NKF.
We r a poor family n with very low EQ n poor children but we show our heart 2 help whoever really poors n hve good family!!!