Has the job market really improved?
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I have been job hunting for the longest time .... still no job for me just a few interviews...
Infact this year I have fewer interview than last year, does it mean there are more hunter in the market than before...
I am drawing close to 2.5 K ... cannot expect my new job to pay me less rite? so I am aiming 2.6 to 2.8 K until now no progress... all the hype for job market recovery
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If you are being headhunted, then yes; maybe you should ask for 20-25% increment. Otherwise, beggers can't be choosers.Originally posted by seancannot:I have been job hunting for the longest time .... still no job for me just a few interviews...
Infact this year I have fewer interview than last year, does it mean there are more hunter in the market than before...
I am drawing close to 2.5 K ... cannot expect my new job to pay me less rite? so I am aiming 2.6 to 2.8 K until now no progress... all the hype for job market recovery -
You didn't mention which industry you r in. It could be that your industry is on the decline. Otherwise, the job industry seems to be improving. However, job retention seems to be plummeting........ back to Square One!!!
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I could survive only on at least 2k take home pay
transport - $400 per month - (bus/Taxi/MRT) live far from workplace
Food $500 (Work long hours 8am to 9 pm at least daily have to eat outside)
utiltlies bills $400 (electricity, conservancy,internet, phone etc)
Expense for parent $300
Misc purchase $300 (medical bills for parent etc)
$1900
Presently I have no saving , I need to make $27 to $2.8K so I can have some savings... I really live modestly now.. I need at least $3.5 K to leave comfortably and own a car may be .
Luckily not married and no children otherwise need to jump MRT -
Which job industry is improving ?Originally posted by :You didn't mention which industry you r in. It could be that your industry is on the decline. Otherwise, the job industry seems to be improving. However, job retention seems to be plummeting........ back to Square One!!! -
Gambling and Bio-medical and supporting industries.
whatever the gov sopport, the job market for that field will recover, else
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I'm hiring sales staffs.... Despite few ads on the papers... few turned up... more foreigners enquire than singaporeans. No jobs or choosy in this case?
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Job Market is at its best lah!
Every year is the best one.
From Ministry of Manpower:
Employment Rate in Singapore: Highest Local Employment Rate in 15 Years
5 October 2006
Reflecting the robust job creation as a result of two years of strong economic performance, the proportion of resident population in employment has risen to a record high, with gains being most pronounced among the older population. This is the key finding of the occasional paper on “Employment Rate in Singapore” from the Ministry of Manpower's Research and Statistics Department.
2 In June 2006, 76% of the resident population aged 25 to 64 were in employment, up from 73% in 2005 and 72% in 2004. This is the highest in 15 years since we started keeping records in 1991. While the buoyant economy has lifted employment prospects across all age groups, the improvement is most pronounced for the older population aged 55 to 64, where the resident employment rate rose by 5% points or more from 2004 to a record high. This suggests that efforts to improve the employability of older persons, amid a tight labour market when employers would be more willing to turn to older workers, have helped more of them secure employment.
3 The gains in employment rate are observed for both males and females, with females registering a significant increase from 2004 of 4.1% points compared to 2.6% points for males aged 25 to 64. The strong employment performance of women partly reflects the improvement in their educational profile as higher educated women are more likely to participate in the labour market. Women have also benefited considerably from the increase in services jobs over the years.
4 Nevertheless, the proportion of men (89%) at work is still higher than women 63%). Internationally, Singapore males have among the highest employment rate. For instance, the proportion of men aged 25 to 64 in employment in Singapore at 86% in 2005 is significantly higher than 76% in Germany and 78% in France , both of which have a more rigid labour market characterised by strict employment protection measures and an extensive social safety net. However, the employment rate of our older population still lags behind many of the developed countries including the United States, the United Kingdom, Sweden and Japan. Despite the gains in employment of Singapore women, the proportion of women in employment here is still lower than many of the developed countries, except for the younger cohort aged 25 to 39. In many of the developed countries, flexible work arrangements such as part-time work which can better accommodate women and older persons are generally more widely available. The relatively lower employment rate of mature women and older persons in Singapore suggests there is scope to enhance their employment. If successful, this will in the long run help more of them contribute to the workforce and also help meet the challenges arising from a rapidly aging population. -
My take home pay bout $1400 - $1700. Depends on OT and shift. I work 7 type of shift and most weekend+Holiday still need to work.
Wow..... $2000 and still want more...... don't buy car but get a HDB house only. I also not married because S'pore girl see me no up..... Viet girl, the agent ask for too much (10k+).... so whats the problem..... $2000 already much better......
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there are signs of market improvment, but will it continue to keep on rising?
when the market is always increasing, there's a huge possibility of the market will fall again.
something is gonna happen soon.. -
You spend far too much:Originally posted by seancannot:I could survive only on at least 2k take home pay
transport - $400 per month - (bus/Taxi/MRT) live far from workplace
Food $500 (Work long hours 8am to 9 pm at least daily have to eat outside)
utiltlies bills $400 (electricity, conservancy,internet, phone etc)
Expense for parent $300
Misc purchase $300 (medical bills for parent etc)
$1900
Presently I have no saving , I need to make $27 to $2.8K so I can have some savings... I really live modestly now.. I need at least $3.5 K to leave comfortably and own a car may be .
Luckily not married and no children otherwise need to jump MRT
Transport: More than $10 a day? Take bus or MRT. Even if you stay far away from your workplace, you shouldn't have to spend more than $5 a day on transport. In fact, if you live far away, you might consider getting the new monthly pass that allows unlimited travel on buses.
Incidentally, my colleague spends 1.5 hours each way on the train everyday, commuting between her home and our lab. Yet she arrives promptly at 9am and leaves at 5.30pm.
Food: What do you eat that's so expensive? You can get a very decent meal at a hawker centre for less than $5. So for two meals outside a day, you should not spend more than $10 a day and at most $300 a month.
Utilities: Your expenses obviously depend on what sort of appliances you have at home and your lifestyle. But if you work long hours and not at home most of the time, your utility bill should not be so high. You can limit your expenses on phone and internet bills by using a pre-paid phone card and a cheaper contract. Use sms to communicate rather than your mobile.
Medical bills: If you need to spend $300 on medical bills each month for your parents, they must have a serious chronic disease. Polyclinic treatment should not cost so much, even with standard medication included. If it is indeed true that you are spending $300 a month on medical bills for your parents, you would be better off buying a comprehensive medical insurance policy plan, which will cost less. -
Singaporeans are choosy.Originally posted by sunny6110:I'm hiring sales staffs.... Despite few ads on the papers... few turned up... more foreigners enquire than singaporeans. No jobs or choosy in this case?
Sales jobs....unless you are selling complex computer systems, you don't require specialised qualifications and the pay you offer is probably not very high. In the end, only foreign workers are interested... -
Originally posted by oxford mushroom:
You spend far too much:
[b]Transport: More than $10 a day? Take bus or MRT. Even if you stay far away from your workplace, you shouldn't have to spend more than $5 a day on transport. In fact, if you live far away, you might consider getting the new monthly pass that allows unlimited travel on buses.
Incidentally, my colleague spends 1.5 hours each way on the train everyday, commuting between her home and our lab. Yet she arrives promptly at 9am and leaves at 5.30pm.
When u are late, you are rush for time you have to take a cab , u cant escape one ride cost me $20
Food: What do you eat that's so expensive? You can get a very decent meal at a hawker centre for less than $5. So for two meals outside a day, you should not spend more than $10 a day and at most $300 a month.
Of course occasionally I spoilt myself have a better meal with friends, family colleague cant expect me to eat $3 mee everyday
Utilities: Your expenses obviously depend on what sort of appliances you have at home and your lifestyle. But if you work long hours and not at home most of the time, your utility bill should not be so high. You can limit your expenses on phone and internet bills by using a pre-paid phone card and a cheaper contract. Use sms to communicate rather than your mobile.
Obviously you do not pay the bills for a five room flat where you need to cook etc I do not run air con fyi breakdown as eletricity , gas , water $150 , conservancy $65, telephone $ 30 hanphone $100 , internet $50
Medical bills: If you need to spend $300 on medical bills each month for your parents, they must have a serious chronic disease. Polyclinic treatment should not cost so much, even with standard medication included. If it is indeed true that you are spending $300 a month on medical bills for your parents, you would be better off buying a comprehensive medical insurance policy plan, which will cost less.
$300 include my expenses such clothing shoe , personal stuff etc
Mr Oxford
Feel that you talk like garment pple .. cant expect me to live in a poverty lifestyle I work very hard everyday okay... it does mean if i have a 29 inch TV in my home I can be consider well to do right? [/b][/quote] -
Btw I am posing this topic rhetoric in nature cos I feel if job market is really so rosy I will not have problem getting interview at all
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its difficult if you are post 30 and wants to ask for higher salary.
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Obviously u cant be choosy now. U say u have no saving if u choose somemore soon i will see u in the news paper. Quote them 2100 bah. Then with yr work performance u can slowly increase yah pay. If u have a breakthrough then u will be headhunted
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I do not agree ..some of my peers keep changing job with better pay...one of my army pal just chnaged job he is drawing close to 10 K now (bank VP) ... guess it depend on what you can offer to the employer and your personal crendentialsOriginally posted by dragg:its difficult if you are post 30 and wants to ask for higher salary. -
8am to 9pm but paid only 2,5k?
you might as well look for a job that pays slightly less but shorter working hours. if it is nearer to your home you can also cut down on transport cost. -
This is fresh grad pay? after all ur deductions macam like roadside cleaner knowOriginally posted by seancannot:I have been job hunting for the longest time .... still no job for me just a few interviews...
Infact this year I have fewer interview than last year, does it mean there are more hunter in the market than before...
I am drawing close to 2.5 K ... cannot expect my new job to pay me less rite? so I am aiming 2.6 to 2.8 K until now no progress... all the hype for job market recovery
hehe sorry dun mean anything but just that if u work such long hours, better jump ship soon. It's not easy to get married in S'pore but don't jump mrt hor. Unless u want instant money at the expense of your family's grief. -
Official hours is 8am to 6 pm five day week... but ended up almost everyday work till 9 pm saturday still go back clear paper workOriginally posted by dragg:8am to 9pm but paid only 2,5k?
you might as well look for a job that pays slightly less but shorter working hours. if it is nearer to your home you can also cut down on transport cost.
One of my accout girl work longer hours than me but draw lower pay ... that is a consolation bah -
Originally posted by seancannot:
[When u are late, you are rush for time you have to take a cab , u cant escape one ride cost me $20
Then wake up earlier. Many people do. Do foreign workers wake up late and take cabs to work?
[Of course occasionally I spoilt myself have a better meal with friends, family colleague cant expect me to eat $3 mee everyday
You have to watch your budget and the number of times you have a 'better meal' then. You can have a better meal in a hawker centre rather than a restaurant.Obviously you do not pay the bills for a five room flat where you need to cook etc I do not run air con fyi breakdown as eletricity , gas , water $150 , conservancy $65, telephone $ 30 hanphone $100 , internet $50
If you are working till 9pm every day I fail to see why you spend so much on utilities. If you have both meals outside, there is no need to cook apart from weekends. Your handphone bill is also excessive. Use a pre-paid phone if you lack discipline.$300 include my expenses such clothing shoe , personal stuff etc
I buy one pair of shoes ($60) a year and I am still wearing the pants I bought 10 years ago. In UK, I am a regular customer of charity shops where I buy second hand clothes. You can save alot if you try.
Lots of Singaporeans live on less than 1.5k a month and they work just as hard, if not harder. Your pay depends on the economic value of your work, not just how hard you work. The farmer may work 10 times as long to earn the equivalent of 10 minutes of a lawyer's time. If you desire a higher quality of life, you have to increase the economic value of your work. -
Agreed with Oxford.
Being peasants in Sinkapoor, when we are squeezed left and right by the MIW, we got to live with a beggar mentality. -
seancannot,
how old are you?
it is very dangerous without savings. there is no such thing as an iron rice bowl. what if you lose your job?
frankly, you never know.
start cutting down on expenses and save some money.
i am telling from experience. -
seancannot,
I have 2 suggestions:
- Change your internet access to the Singnet 512 kbps plan at $29.95
- Change to a free-incoming call plan when your present mobile contract expires. You can get pretty decent talk-time for less than $50.
obiterdicta -
i saw an advert with an opening for passenger service assistant.
the pre-requisite includes applicant must not be above 40 yrs old.
knn!!!