A lesson learnt, says MP and dad Wee Siew Kim
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Actually everything was hunky dory and Singaporeans were more or less living harmoniously with each other until some people at the top started bringing up the topic that elites were supposed to lead society.Originally posted by #$%^&*:I feel this is really much ado about nothing.
Why should anyone pay special attention to her blog, an 18 year old teenager?
Should you pay attention to Steven Lim blog?
Should you pay attention to thousands of other young people, talking and ranting about anything under the sun and in any manner as they like?
I feel that this phenomenon is a bit ugly, it shows the predatory instinct of some section of Singaporeans, who really just want to find something bad or ugly to attack and vent their frustrations, especially towards 'elitism' or whatever it is called. Something like this shows up, people pounce, like a tiger.
It is a little worrying for me, because she is just a teenager writing a blog, a non-issue, and, it is a private thing, should not be extended to her father who is coincidentally holding a public office and therefore politically flogged. To me this is an uncomfortable and awkward privacy intrusion on family relations.
From then on, the term "elite" took on more meaning than it should and started people thinking about the widening social divide.
So whose fault?
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It was daft to talk about the obvious...the truth hurts.Originally posted by charlize:Actually everything was hunky dory and Singaporeans were more or less living harmoniously with each other until some people at the top started bringing up the topic that elites were supposed to lead society.
From then on, the term "elite" took on more meaning than it should and started people thinking about the widening social divide.
So whose fault? -
You are right. Privacy intrusion, as claimed by Wee Siew Kim, has no meaningOriginally posted by BillyBong:If people possess the same mindset as you, then the future of SG is really in dire straits.
No one would have bothered had the writer been some anonymous blogger posting their usual rants. It was the person behind it that raised eyebrows.
Wee Shu Min was and still is, perhaps one of our brighter talents. Considering the fact that she is under a Raffles scholarship and studying at RJC ranks her as one talent earmarked for our future.
What shocks people is the manner in which a bright emerging talent has heaped scorn on an average person, simply for mouthing legitimate issues. Worst, she conveniently assumes Derek Wee to be nothing more than a 'leech', a waste to society; one of those who is unwilling to work hard to earn his ricebowl. She goes on to sweep his concerns aside in the same 'elite' manner as some of our superfluous and aloof leaders in the current administration.
It shows the arrogant and dismissive mindset of our 'elite' class, and if left unchecked, will ultimately lead to a growing dissent among the 'peasant' population. Not only do our leaders have it, their children carry the same streak.
Like a cancer.
Is it 'predatory instincts' that provoke our people? Or simply the grave concern that is mounting? Despite all the warning signs, people continue to accept our govt leaders 'elite' status, offering little more than apathetic complaints degrading to coffeeshop talk. And the more we say nothing, the more these so-called pompous 'elites' believe they are such. The facade mushrooms until the famed meritocracy model becomes just another flawed ideal.
Being 'politically flogged' as you so aptly put it, is merely part and parcel of entering politics. Your words are scrutinized in vivid detail, dissected and analysed between the lines. What you say is no longer private, except the words "no comment".
'Awkward privacy intrusion'? Hardly. Since Ms Wee was willing to post her audacious and brutal comments on the net, privacy has no longer any meaning.
and irrelevant because the Court has already ruled that blogs are not
private in a previous case of racist comments by 3 bloggers.
Moreover, how can one blogger (Wee Shu Min) attacking another blogger
(Derek Wee) be considered as intruding upon her privacy?
What about her intrusion into Derek Wee's privacy in the first place? -
Anyone read today's newpaper about PAP MP Sin Boon Ann bringing up the topic about social divide? He also mentioned about MPs hip hopping and blogging only scratching the surfaces. I think those are pretty relevant points.
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Actually I would like to she how that young lady lives up to her jibber jabber and actually put her money where her mouth is. Come out of that sheltered existence, live among the working class for a couple of months or so trying to make ends meet on a 700 dollar pay with a family to feed.
I don't know what she meant by elite, if in that it means "better" it is a narrow sense of the word, for it seems to me that in many respects in being a proper human being, she certianly isn't "better" at all.
If she's so concerned about the "brutal" truth, she should be well aware of the brutal that making such statements will have its consquences as well... the fact that she so hastly beat feet and goes a long way to show how well she can take certain "brutal" truths. Such behaviour is laughable.
In any case that MP did make valid points on this issue on the stratification of soceity. Many people have been dancing around that. -
Hip hopping and blogging by these post 65 MPs are only scratching the surface.Originally posted by ditzy:Anyone read today's newpaper about PAP MP Sin Boon Ann bringing up the topic about social divide? He also mentioned about MPs hip hopping and blogging only scratching the surfaces. I think those are pretty relevant points.
These post 65 MPs ought to go straight to the problems causing the social divide which was entirely man-made not due to globalization but by persistent tax-and-recover and corporatization policies of the past which are still not changing.
If in addition to hip hopping, these post 65 MPs could ask for real change - even from behind the scene like telling the problems as they are without hypocrisy like Maliki has done, it will be great. -
Seriously, are we paying too much to the MPs if all they can do is tell us to stop whining and solve our own problems?
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I'm not happy about paying them to rehearse hip hop. They're not dancers.Originally posted by charlize:Seriously, are we paying too much to the MPs if all they can do is tell us to stop whining and solve our own problems?
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IMHO, banish all those talents (local or foreign) who are discerning about their fellow citizens. These people will not make the right decision or policy in the goodwill of the country and her people, since they always have a selfish or uncaring mindset.
I seriously hope Ms Wee Shu Min will not take up leadership or high position in future that will affect lives of Singaporean. Let her live in her own elite well, and disappear when life-time is up. We, Singaporeans, do not advocate such selfish and discerning mindset. If her thinking propagate, Singapore will be the worst and frigtening place to be rooted.
I, as a Singaporean, do not respect and regard her as my fellow country mate. Her words are dividing this country and making more people despising them. Even animals, show feeling for each other.
Another question in view is whether there is a serious flaw in the educational institutions that she had attended or is currently attending which shape her mindset and view from young till now. Or is it caused by her family upbringing? -
Hate to break the news to you, but people like her will likely be your next generation leaders.Originally posted by thinker:IMHO, banish all those talents (local or foreign) who are discerning about their fellow citizens. These people will not make the right decision or policy in the goodwill of the country and her people, since they always have a selfish or uncaring mindset.
I seriously hope Ms Wee Shu Min will not take up leadership or high position in future that will affect lives of Singaporean. Let her live in her own elite well, and disappear when life-time is up. We, Singaporeans, do not advocate such selfish and discerning mindset. If her thinking propagate, Singapore will be the worst and frigtening place to be rooted.
I, as a Singaporean, do not respect and regard her as my fellow country mate. Her words are dividing this country and making more people despising them. Even animals, show feeling for each other.
Another question in view is whether there is a serious flaw in the educational institutions that she had attended or is currently attending which shape her mindset and view from young till now. Or is it caused by her family upbringing?
How do I know?
Because she is a "scholar". -
Bottomline is whatever is happening around you or whether some potential talent or bright student wants to rant and blog...don't care whatever they do
We all work hard and make our own fortune. Our life is what we make it out to be...work hard and smart...whether in Sillypore or overseas....why do we always bother about what these people do...at least one thing is for sure...we know how our so-called bright students and their fathers think these days....no wonder the father chose to keep silent lest he be told to get out of other peoples' humble caring faces....
Best solution, let us all leave this red dot and open the floodgates to PRC and INdia -
Originally posted by Coquitlam:
I do not agree with what you said about "don't care" about the action and mindset of such ppl. Once they are in the place with power, who dictates or formulates the policy or decision that affects Singaporean lives, it does matter to individual who is still in Singapore. Indirectly or directly, it will affect you, your friends, your fellow country mates and your loves one.
[b]Bottomline is whatever is happening around you or whether some potential talent or bright student wants to rant and blog...don't care whatever they do
We all work hard and make our own fortune. Our life is what we make it out to be...work hard and smart...whether in Sillypore or overseas....why do we always bother about what these people do...at least one thing is for sure...we know how our so-called bright students and their fathers think these days....no wonder the father chose to keep silent lest he be told to get out of other peoples' humble caring faces....
Best solution, let us all leave this red dot and open the floodgates to PRC and INdia[/b]
Anyway, I already regard her as a failure of human-kind, and a failure of our education system or family values (whichever nurture her to have such mindset). -
That is why I encourage all those who can to leave Sillypore.....seriously those who stay behind can care about who comesinto power...likewise those who leave, including me, who already number in the thousands...we have a choice also and we choose to walk with our feet...
And how do we help those we love??? We help sponsor them over and help look for jobs for them...that's how we help -
Totally agreed.Originally posted by Coquitlam:That is why I encourage all those who can to leave Sillypore.....seriously those who stay behind can care about who comesinto power...likewise those who leave, including me, who already number in the thousands...we have a choice also and we choose to walk with our feet...
And how do we help those we love??? We help sponsor them over and help look for jobs for them...that's how we help
There are less and less reasons for locally borned citizens to stay in sinkapoor.
On the other hand, there are more and more reasons to leave. Today, we received one more reason - GST hike. -
I've learnt a painful lesson today.
Elites are always thinking of ways to skin off average Singaporean. -
Those who call Singapore, "Sillypore, sinkapoor, etc"....PLEASE GET LOST!
Whatever problems we have or issues you are not happy, we do not deserve these names calling. -
will her father contest in the next election or ever take up a minister post , i doubt so ,,, anyway two term of MP ship is a lot money ... so it is probably enough. for him
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What's more scary is that she may return next time as your MP in your constituency.Originally posted by seancannot:will her father contest in the next election or ever take up a minister post , i doubt so ,,, anyway two term of MP ship is a lot money ... so it is probably enough. for him -
Yeah right.Originally posted by charlize:What's more scary is that she may return next time as your MP in your constituency. -
Thank goodness I'm not moving to ang mo kio.Originally posted by charlize:What's more scary is that she may return next time as your MP in your constituency. As a consolation I'm still under the hotly contested grc. No, not woodlands. -
You don't get to choose your MPs.Originally posted by ditzy:Thank goodness I'm not moving to ang mo kio. As a consolation I'm still under the hotly contested grc. No, not woodlands.
Surely you know that? -
Then who chooses? Me ah?Originally posted by charlize:You don't get to choose your MPs.
Surely you know that?
*dreams of the day*
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If she was your MP, I bet you will be looking for her everytime she holds a meet the people session.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Yeah right. -
Singapore's probably the only place where you have to plan ahead where you want to live if you wish to vote in the next elections.
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Oh gawd, not again. I'd rather be in a position to tell her where to stand for elections.Originally posted by charlize:If she was your MP, I bet you will be looking for her everytime she holds a meet the people session.