Oops...! Another RJ "Elitist" did it again
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I think it's time to move on. This kind of news will just go on and on.
Let's face it, our gahmen sux. -
Are you quoting James Gomez? LOLOriginally posted by JackOT:I think it's time to move on. This kind of news will just go on and on.
Let's face it, our gahmen sux. -
Did Ms Wee just violated the Sedition Act?
Sedition Act (Singapore)
The Sedition Act is in Chapter 290 of the Statues of Singapore. It was last revised in 1985.
In September 2005, the Sedition Act was first used on individuals when three men, including a teenager, were charged for making seditious and inflammatory racist comments on the Internet.
Seditious tendency.
3. —(1) A seditious tendency is a tendency —
(a) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the Government;
(b) to excite the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore to attempt to procure in Singapore, the alteration, otherwise than by lawful means, of any matter as by law established;
(c) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the administration of justice in Singapore;
(d) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore;
(e) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore. -
Haha...noo...i didn't realise that.Originally posted by Hellraiza:Are you quoting James Gomez? LOL
"Let's move on" wahahahhaaha...
Anyway, my pt is that there are such ppl (Elitist) and of cos they will side their ppl just like how the rest of us defending for the average singaporean.
I guess this whole incident should really focus on what her dad have said, rather than what she said. Afterall, her dad get our tax payers' money...he should say things that we wanna hear, not piss us off. -
When people never list their thoughts and opinions, people say its because they scared to talk.
When people open their mouths and talk about their personal thoughts, people say they should keep it shut.
Hard 2 be a human being at this age. -
no.. we are giving them such a hard time because of the "values" taught to them by their families, their school, the system... our system...
they are taught that ordinary people are not worth listening to, they are less than the "elite" and are not worth their time, and are only worth their contempt
which is why we are giving them a hard time..
because it is the RESPONSIBILITY (which the ruling "elite" keeps harping on about) of a citizenry to make sure that people who are sprouting crap like that, are put in place in debate...
well, we are debating, aren't we?
and the way it was written, apart from just the content which was distressing for an 18 year old supposedly being "groomed for high places", it must be said about "kae kar" or the values taught by the family..
the way the words were put, it would seem that the "elite" cannot even come anywhere close to practising what they tell us, we the people, to do... and that says more about the stench coming from the ivory towers than whatever the heck we can say.. because they did it to themselves.. -
RJ Elitist so what?
In the end get enlisted still go botak-head and become lowest life-form on earth for awhile...hahaha
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wah lau, this is spreading like WILDFIRE MAN!
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ErrrrOriginally posted by RvnRooRon84:RJ Elitist so what?
In the end get enlisted still go botak-head and become lowest life-form on earth for awhile...hahaha
Sorry lor, even the lowest life-form on Earth, they also got class one lor. Ever hear of the phrase, "white horse"? -
Ho ei! Ho liao sia!Originally posted by Texcoco II:
This one is the thing man! -
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Phew.. lucky i have no history n affiliation to Raffles in anyway. Have not even visited any Raffles Medical Group clinics.
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Originally posted by Texcoco II:
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yeah I found this rather bitter tooOriginally posted by Ito_^: 
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C'mon, let's face it. Raffles is a robber that (I use the word "that" delibrately) comes to Singapore, robs all the island's wealth then runs away. (I know the following statement very cei up) Serve him right to die penniless.Originally posted by Gackt247:Phew.. lucky i have no history n affiliation to Raffles in anyway. Have not even visited any Raffles Medical Group clinics.
It is the colonial government that made Raffles a hero. Then the present government also blur-blur, don't justified this fault and carry on with this lie -
yeah..
(d) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore;
and this part pisses me off.
(e) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore. -
Originally posted by Texcoco II:
So after we counsel a lawyer and he say can press charge, the citizens of Singapore can press charge to Sr Wee and Wee Shu min lah?
Did Ms Wee just violated the Sedition Act?
Sedition Act (Singapore)
The Sedition Act is in Chapter 290 of the Statues of Singapore. It was last revised in 1985.
In September 2005, the Sedition Act was first used on individuals when three men, including a teenager, were charged for making seditious and inflammatory racist comments on the Internet.
Seditious tendency.
3. —(1) A seditious tendency is a tendency —
(a) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the Government;
(b) to excite the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore to attempt to procure in Singapore, the alteration, otherwise than by lawful means, of any matter as by law established;
(c) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the administration of justice in Singapore;
(d) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore;
(e) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore. -
No lawyer would dare to take up this case.Originally posted by Hogzilla:So after we counsel a lawyer and he say can press charge, the citizens of Singapore can press charge to Sr Wee and Wee Shu min lah? -
yup.. coz some are more equal than others
kena struck by lightning bolts then you knowOriginally posted by kaister:No lawyer would dare to take up this case. -
I think in the movie Farquhar was suggesting they build a lot of things to be named after Raffles.....including a mental institutionOriginally posted by the Bear:it was a short skit in the beginning about Sir Stamford Raffles trying to institutionalise some people.. the place would be named after him for founding it.. Raffles Institution!
Raffles (acted by our own Neil Humphrey) then went 'Oh I can see it now...The Raffles Instituition"..... -
I would want to sit on the fence and suggest a timeout for everyone to think about and rationalise what is meant by elitist and elitism?
From the various postings here and other forums arising from the latest blog fiasco of Ms Wee.. its seems like being branded as an elitist means certain pre-requisites.. like going to some better ranked schools.. being able to write and opine in flawless english and having the luck of being the children of famous and powerful people or even developing certain line of thoughts towards other classes?
who is it then who actually creates such a class? is it the "elitist" themselves or those who are outside that "elitist" circle?
do the brightest of the nation automatically qualify themselves as elites just because they know how to get the grades and obtain the necessary paper qualifications? do those that wield political influence count as elites?
how about comparing those who truly knows the hearts of the people. i draw your attention to an article written by Mr Ngiam Tong Dow in today's ST. Again , I do not quite support the basis of his whole speech/article which focuses on the various classes of elites.. but it brings out something that perhaps should be discussed.. and it is the fact that there are different strengths in different people and there are those who connect better to the ground.. in that article.. he identifies these as social elites..and disappointingly he gives a very short mention to these "elites"
what it means to say is the fact that no one is perfect and .. so.. is Ms Wee considered a social elite?? I beg to differ. See how much feathers has she ruffled just over an article. I would prefer to say that there are people who are not as good in dealing with certain areas just as I would prefer to say that Ms Wee/ her father is not as perfect in the field of dealing and being sensitive to the ground.. her father is an engineer by training.. so probably dealing with public sentiments on his part there is defintely room for improving how he can deal with that aspect especially now so that he is an elected MP having a 2/3 support of his constituents.
Not that i support elites as a class of their own.. but i feel that segrating at elite classes within the societly creates unnecessary fault lines. its almost akin to spelling out the differences in skin colour of the people who make up singapore or the names which singaporeans call their god.
i recall that even LHL or some PAP MP acknowleging the fact that the ruling party was unable to gather the best brains in Singapore to run for the GE that just pass. so now do we really have the "elites" or so called running singapore?
lastly, i would want to also refer to Braveheart.. the movie by Mel Gibson.. in which there is a quote that I think should really be the crux of good governance.. i think the people who feels that they have exceptional talents should also think about it and those who still persist to think that they are elites:
"you think the people of this land exist to provide you with position. I think your position exists to provide those people with freedom. And I go to make sure that they have it. " - William Wallace
these so called "elites" are there because we make them so. the moment that we stop calling them so.. they will also disappear.. in a democratic society.. do not experiment unnecessarily with the will of the people. -
Well, there is one recently kenna thrown in the Hougang chalet.Originally posted by kaister:No lawyer would dare to take up this case.
Do you think Chiam See Tiong dares to take this case? He is a lawyer.
Ecxentrique, (your reply was too long, I'm too lazy to quote it) I personally know some of these our so-called elites during my army days. Well, some of them are willing to go through thick and thin with the whole unit, but there are also some fishmongers (selfish) made their way into my bunk.
I do not discriminate anyone, so far. But it is them who discriminate the average Joe and keep their distance with the rest of us. I'm a very quiet person who have very poor inter-personal skills, neither do I posess any psychic powers that allows me to read the mind of others. (Ok, I do know some friend that have superior inter-personal skills. So, I know those non-discrimating ones through them)
So, what can I do about those who kept their distance? -
He won't and I would rather he put in all his efforts in running Potong Pasir. There're more important things than to bring down an elitist 18-year-old gal and her MP father.Originally posted by Hogzilla:Do you think Chiam See Tiong dares to take this case? He is a lawyer. -
nobody call them keep their mouth shut...Originally posted by nanren4ever:When people never list their thoughts and opinions, people say its because they scared to talk.
When people open their mouths and talk about their personal thoughts, people say they should keep it shut.
Hard 2 be a human being at this age.
u expect us 2 listen already no happy still keep our mouth shut ar....
obviously must open mouth and voice our opinion right?
if we shut up... we will r "scared to talk" lah... if we voice out..."people say they should keep it shut" lah... its a 2 way thing... called debate...
so watever u said... is self conflicting...