GREAT HAPPENINGS... 2nd MRT Suicide
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You forgot to take account about some unique features about Singapore.Originally posted by wisefool83:So.......until now still nobody know what actually happens right?
And when nobody knows why that guy jump, somebody's first reaction is to blame government........like that abit the er........
I mean like statistically speaking, out of a population of 4 million, there will be people who want to committ sucide, doesn't really mean he/she is desperate or anything.
Maybe before we start scolding here and there, can try to find out what happen first. Was reading Zaobao.com on this, and they were telling people with information to come forward......so maybe even the police also not sure what's wrong.
If the media really wants to black this out, then don't need to put it on online news. A few columnist also expressed concern that if too much report will also cause other people to follow suit. So like that also cannot blame government or media what.
Government may not be perfect, but pls don't anyhow anyhow shoot leh, make us look very stupid.
1.The press rankings in Singapore is ranked 146th. Racial riots is used as a shield to maintain an uncritical press to praise the government in myriad ways. Just go JB and buy a few English newspapers and you can see its obvious Malaysia has a more liberal press. The government already has ISA and sedition act to jail racists, why do they need to control the press?
2. The government also has a history of keeping data away from the public eye. For example, even professors in NTU could not figure out foreign employment figures in Singapore because MOM does not release accurate data.
How then could we trust what is done by the press is right? -
Maybe we should invite korean government to run our transport system. They have a transport system where the MRT and the bus system is integrated.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The bus fares in Singapore are far lower and the service better than those in the West. If you think you can do better, go ahead and start a private bus company. The government will not complain if you can run all the routes (including the money-losing unpopular routes) and make ends meet.
The bus fare is calculated based on the distance travelled. While their basic fare is more expensive at 800 Won at $1.32 for the first 10km, for commuters who use both MRT and bus, the fare would be still $1.32 if the distance travelled is less than 10km.
http://english.tour2korea.com/03Sightseeing/TravelSpot/travelspot_read.asp?oid=1846&kosm=m3_8
"By using a T-money card, passengers will enjoy greater discount benefits than with cash. For example, if Mr. A takes five bus or subway rides, for a distance of less than 10 kilometers, he will only pay a base rate of 800 won. If he pays cash, however, that sum would total up to 4,000 won." -
We are world class in terms of our transporation system and need not learn from anyone. Instead, it should be other countries learning from us.
Wonder why SBS came up with the system of $98/mth for umlimited bus rides. Why not SBS and MRT integrated? Stupid people. Might as well don't waste the time designing this plan. -
I think I am in the best position to comment on this. My father used to run his own bus transportation business and it was a booming business back in the 70s. We move from living under another relative's home to a HDB, from 2 rooms to 4 rooms, to private and then to landed.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The bus fares in Singapore are far lower and the service better than those in the West. If you think you can do better, go ahead and start a private bus company. The government will not complain if you can run all the routes (including the money-losing unpopular routes) and make ends meet.
That is, until the govt decided that there are too many buses services available and the reason is that they feel it is confusing to the public. So they started to restricted operators license and one by one, my father's friends were forced to shut down their business in favor of SBS. Not long after, it was our turn.
Then a few years later, we had only 2 operators in Singapore - SBS and TransIsland. The people at the bus association found out that TranIsland retain their operator license because the one of the major shareholder was MM's brother-in-law.
During the years while we are still in business, our buses are new and well maintained. Our fares are considerably lower than SBS. We had to shut down not because it was not profitable but because the govt use regulation as a tool to help state owned business kill competition.
This is the reason why my families have always been supporters of the opposition. -
Join opposition party...Originally posted by sunny6110:U needa hv The Art to outshine others...
Otherwise, be juz another guy on the street and be manupulated and start complaining -
Wah lan ehOriginally posted by anonymouscoward:I think I am in the best position to comment on this. My father used to run his own bus transportation business and it was a booming business back in the 70s. We move from living under another relative's home to a HDB, from 2 rooms to 4 rooms, to private and then to landed.
That is, until the govt decided that there are too many buses services available and the reason is that they feel it is confusing to the public. So they started to restricted operators license and one by one, my father's friends were forced to shut down their business in favor of SBS. Not long after, it was our turn.
Then a few years later, we had only 2 operators in Singapore - SBS and TransIsland. The people at the bus association found out that TranIsland retain their operator license because the one of the major shareholder was MM's brother-in-law.
During the years while we are still in business, our buses are new and well maintained. Our fares are considerably lower than SBS. We had to shut down not because it was not profitable but because the govt use regulation as a tool to help state owned business kill competition.
This is the reason why my families have always been supporters of the opposition. Nepotism. -
wah what happens if they consider what you said be be defamatory?Originally posted by anonymouscoward:Then a few years later, we had only 2 operators in Singapore - SBS and TransIsland. The people at the bus association found out that TranIsland retain their operator license because the one of the major shareholder was MM's brother-in-law.
does your family have enough money to fight lawsuits? Coz if you dont have enough money to fight lawsuits, its safer to keep quiet like Archie Ong. -
it won't work in s'pore where the public transport system MUST BE profit driven..Originally posted by kilua:Maybe we should invite korean government to run our transport system. They have a transport system where the MRT and the bus system is integrated.
The bus fare is calculated based on the distance travelled. While their basic fare is more expensive at 800 Won at $1.32 for the first 10km, for commuters who use both MRT and bus, the fare would be still $1.32 if the distance travelled is less than 10km.
http://english.tour2korea.com/03Sightseeing/TravelSpot/travelspot_read.asp?oid=1846&kosm=m3_8
"By using a T-money card, passengers will enjoy greater discount benefits than with cash. For example, if Mr. A takes five bus or subway rides, for a distance of less than 10 kilometers, he will only pay a base rate of 800 won. If he pays cash, however, that sum would total up to 4,000 won."
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But suspicious doesn't equal conviction mah. There may be good reasons that govt are keeping things from us, or in fact knowing that govt are keeping things from us, but that doesn't mean they are keeping knowledge of this particular case from us.Originally posted by kilua:You forgot to take account about some unique features about Singapore.
1.The press rankings in Singapore is ranked 146th. Racial riots is used as a shield to maintain an uncritical press to praise the government in myriad ways. Just go JB and buy a few English newspapers and you can see its obvious Malaysia has a more liberal press. The government already has ISA and sedition act to jail racists, why do they need to control the press?
2. The government also has a history of keeping data away from the public eye. For example, even professors in NTU could not figure out foreign employment figures in Singapore because MOM does not release accurate data.
How then could we trust what is done by the press is right?
I mean, the govt doesn't deny that the poor are getting poorer, the figures just released by IRA says that we just had a couple of thousands more people earning less than 20,000 per year (interestingly, I've also just found out that pple whose income under 20,000 per year don't need to pay income tax).
The zaobao online that I read the other day also provided the details like what type of house they live in and how many family members left behind. If the govt controlled media really want to keep hush hush, they can do better than this. -
thank you for the input.Originally posted by anonymouscoward:I think I am in the best position to comment on this. My father used to run his own bus transportation business and it was a booming business back in the 70s. We move from living under another relative's home to a HDB, from 2 rooms to 4 rooms, to private and then to landed.
That is, until the govt decided that there are too many buses services available and the reason is that they feel it is confusing to the public. So they started to restricted operators license and one by one, my father's friends were forced to shut down their business in favor of SBS. Not long after, it was our turn.
Then a few years later, we had only 2 operators in Singapore - SBS and TransIsland. The people at the bus association found out that TranIsland retain their operator license because the one of the major shareholder was MM's brother-in-law.
During the years while we are still in business, our buses are new and well maintained. Our fares are considerably lower than SBS. We had to shut down not because it was not profitable but because the govt use regulation as a tool to help state owned business kill competition.
This is the reason why my families have always been supporters of the opposition.
public bus service is not the only business the govt forced out private firms to monopolise through regulations others include the taxi service and the newspaper publication.
it seems that every business the govt takes over the price of the product or service will go up but the quality will deteriorate. -
Prepare to get sued...Originally posted by anonymouscoward:Then a few years later, we had only 2 operators in Singapore - SBS and TransIsland. The people at the bus association found out that TranIsland retain their operator license because the one of the major shareholder was MM's brother-in-law.
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The question is: can you afford to run services over all of Singapore, to cover more remote areas near army camps and less popular routes? Small operators will pick and choose. They will go for the profitable routes which are already well-served and ignore the less popular routes. You get a situation as in central London, where there may be buses from 5 companies at one bus-stop, plying the same profitable route but other places are not served by any bus services. Needless to say, there is no integration of the bus services and you cannot use a bus card from one company on another company's buses.Originally posted by anonymouscoward:I think I am in the best position to comment on this. My father used to run his own bus transportation business and it was a booming business back in the 70s. We move from living under another relative's home to a HDB, from 2 rooms to 4 rooms, to private and then to landed.
That is, until the govt decided that there are too many buses services available and the reason is that they feel it is confusing to the public. So they started to restricted operators license and one by one, my father's friends were forced to shut down their business in favor of SBS. Not long after, it was our turn.
Then a few years later, we had only 2 operators in Singapore - SBS and TransIsland. The people at the bus association found out that TranIsland retain their operator license because the one of the major shareholder was MM's brother-in-law.
During the years while we are still in business, our buses are new and well maintained. Our fares are considerably lower than SBS. We had to shut down not because it was not profitable but because the govt use regulation as a tool to help state owned business kill competition.
This is the reason why my families have always been supporters of the opposition.
Big bus companies can rob Peter to pay Paul. They can earn their money from profitable routes to subsidize less profitable ones. If you can run a bus service under the same rules as SBS and TIBS, to cover both profitable and non-profitable ones, yet offer lower fares, LTA would be interested. -
Hey, I think you must have confused open-top tourist buses, airport buses, or express buses for public buses in Central London. They aren't exactly the same. Can't blame you if you don't live in London.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:The question is: can you afford to run services over all of Singapore, to cover more remote areas near army camps and less popular routes? Small operators will pick and choose. They will go for the profitable routes which are already well-served and ignore the less popular routes. You get a situation as in central London, where there may be buses from 5 companies at one bus-stop, plying the same profitable route but other places are not served by any bus services. Needless to say, there is no integration of the bus services and you cannot use a bus card from one company on another company's buses.
Big bus companies can rob Peter to pay Paul. They can earn their money from profitable routes to subsidize less profitable ones. If you can run a bus service under the same rules as SBS and TIBS, to cover both profitable and non-profitable ones, yet offer lower fares, LTA would be interested.
London bus manages the operations of buses from different operators. All buses have to use the same red colour scheme and livery. Yes, there IS integration! And yes, all paymnents ARE consistent and unified! -
If this was the truth.....then our God is selfish and greedy as well. Incredible!!!Originally posted by anonymouscoward:I think I am in the best position to comment on this. My father used to run his own bus transportation business and it was a booming business back in the 70s. We move from living under another relative's home to a HDB, from 2 rooms to 4 rooms, to private and then to landed.
That is, until the govt decided that there are too many buses services available and the reason is that they feel it is confusing to the public. So they started to restricted operators license and one by one, my father's friends were forced to shut down their business in favor of SBS. Not long after, it was our turn.
Then a few years later, we had only 2 operators in Singapore - SBS and TransIsland. The people at the bus association found out that TranIsland retain their operator license because the one of the major shareholder was MM's brother-in-law.
During the years while we are still in business, our buses are new and well maintained. Our fares are considerably lower than SBS. We had to shut down not because it was not profitable but because the govt use regulation as a tool to help state owned business kill competition.
This is the reason why my families have always been supporters of the opposition. -
The thing is, say 1 sentence liao, other people will still say, "Wah, how come only 1 sentence? Trying to cover up right?"Originally posted by Hogzilla:Yah lah, but at least say one sentence on the news (Chinese news hor, where the caring, non-elites are) mah. But they just cover things up as if nothing had happened before.
I think it is Uniquely Singapore lor.
U can never please everyone.
And hor, why Clementi this year so damn suay? That time that guy push his ex-gf onto the truck, now people jump and die. KNN. Devalue my flat value only -
