Who should be grateful to who -govt to people or verse versa
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Quote from "matagandhi" posted at youngpap And 66.6% of the voters chose the PAP. I am not saying that all the 33.3% who voted for the opposition are ungrateful people, but end of they day, we must still respect the wish of the majority.
Good point!!! if PAP is to compete fairly without resorting to defamation suits against opposition candidates of potential we would have a more vibrant political process today to help us become more competitive socially culturally and economically.
and liked we said before
if you removed the grc bullies
you would not even get 66%
so don't be ungrateful to the citizens
However political oppositions were regularly sued for defamation for innuendos made in the heat of electioneering and were deprived of opportunities to stand for election as single candidates by the engineered GRC blockade and electoral boundary redrawing.
Without such below-the-belt questionable methodology it will be doubtful if it could secure even 40% of the votes.
This topic is about who should be grateful to who - ministers and MPs who should be grateful to the people or the other way round.
Yes, people were grateful to the founding father for their contributions in building the nation from scratch in 1960s. But since the 1970s when the first generation leaders began to promote elitism and their own glory and rewarding themselves with the highest salaries and rewards against the wishes of the people, the later batches of MPs and Ministers have not been performing up to the expectation of the masses.
If these MPs and Ministers have half the quality as expected they should have helped to correct some of the major policy errors such as high-cost tax-and-recover and corporatisation policies which resulted in losses of economic competitiveness and technology start-ups
So objectively based on facts and numbers, have the later-year MPs and Ministers done a good job since 1970s for which the people should be grateful
So many talented scholars were put up to be MPs and Ministers since 1970s but they seem to come and go receiving million-dollar salaries and good lifelong retirement golden eggs but have they solved or help solve the high cost and 20 major policy errors as pointed out in various feedbacks.
People who committed suicides by jumping the MRT tracks could have caused chaotic street demonstrations. But they were patient and tolerated the non-performing MPs and ministers who were receiving all the million-dollar salaries without solving problems or proving their worth through performance over 20 years and were still being given so many chances since 1970s.
So it may be asked : who should be indeed grateful to who. -
sooner or later, somebody will come up with the JFK quote:
ask not what the country can do for you, but ask what you can do for ur country ... blahblah blahblahblah
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Someone make V for Vendetta compulsory watching please. -
Yes!! That was a nice show TOTALLY suited for Singapore.Originally posted by missqi:
Someone make V for Vendetta compulsory watching please.
Some of my friend are already considering emigrating to other country... -
hmmmmOriginally posted by diuneahpa:sooner or later, somebody will come up with the JFK quote:
ask not what the country can do for you, but ask what you can do for ur country ... blahblah blahblahblah
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I believe some of the young voters will vote for the opposition coz they want an alternate voice to represent them although some of the pap candidates are more outstanding...
Talking abt outstanding... I tink the opposition should brush up their public speaking skills and try not to complain excessively... And I tink previous opp leaders got themselves into trouble becoz they are unable to defend their stand without mentioning names and quoting examples relating to the other party... -
I believe the opp will hv more votes if they hire some motivational speakers to speak on their behalf on Their Rallying Speech...
I'm not trying to be sacarstic
, But i tink this is one of the areas they can improve on.. -
Excuse me but; if THEY don't owe us a living, we certainly DO NOT owe them the VOTINGS.
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whoOriginally posted by sunny6110:I believe some of the young voters will vote for the opposition coz they want an alternate voice to represent them although some of the pap candidates are more outstanding...
Talking abt outstanding... I tink the opposition should brush up their public speaking skills and try not to complain excessively... And I tink previous opp leaders got themselves into trouble becoz they are unable to defend their stand without mentioning names and quoting examples relating to the other party...
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PAP is use of the law is not the same as bullying the opposition. Blame it on the opposition not having substance. If the PAP people step out of line, so can the Opposition resort to law suits against the PAP wad.....
The Opposition's bad behavior is their own undoing. No one of sound mind will want to vote for Opposition candidates whose behavior resembles those of thugs and who oni know how to say this no good or that no good but never themselves give any decent alternatives/proposals......
It is time the opposition people take a good long look at themselves.......
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gratitude is a 2-way street
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Would you be assuming all local 'opposition' to be in the mould of the SDP, where civil disobedience is the prime directive?Originally posted by :PAP is use of the law is not the same as bullying the opposition. Blame it on the opposition not having substance. If the PAP people step out of line, so can the Opposition resort to law suits against the PAP wad.....
The Opposition's bad behavior is their own undoing. No one of sound mind will want to vote for Opposition candidates whose behavior resembles those of thugs and who oni know how to say this no good or that no good but never themselves give any decent alternatives/proposals......
It is time the opposition people take a good long look at themselves.......
Or are you conveniently grouping opposition, any opposition for that matter, to be under the same banner?
We certainly have legitimate alternatives and more so based on the results of the last election, where a large proportion of the people endured laughable 'walkovers'. Surely the people were not drawn to WP rallies at aljunied and hougang based on their 'lack of substance'?
Conversely, surely it wasn't the free packet drinks and bottled water that drew the miserly crowds to attend ruling party campaign speeches?
Surely it must be the infallible wit and supreme intelligence of Lee junior to somehow utter the now-infamous "fix the opposition' claim during one of his rallies, only to apologize 'elite-style', through his press secretary later on?
Perhaps the wool has become so white and thick that you are seemingly blinded by it's magnificence?