During GE2006, they already can say strong support for amk's pap team came from younger supporters of anchorvale.Originally posted by dragg:how did you know they voted against him?
I still remember the Mr. Brown podcast.Originally posted by ditzy:Mee siam mai hum for all, first come first serve.![]()
Springlead Estate is largely a Upper Middle Income area - similar to Senett Estate in CST's Potong Pasir Ward.Originally posted by BillyBong:While the purpose of this visit has been to meet the residents, the likely reason behind the visit is the possible fact that almost the entire area voted against the ruling party at the last elections and Lee junior's aim is to walk the ground and cajole votes back in his favour.
Took a drive recently around the springleaf estate park where they're holding the session this coming Sunday. A lot of expensive white tentages were set up and the place seemed to have been vastly cleaned. I really wonder where the money to set up the tentages and spotlights are coming from, not to mention the food and drinks that are likely to be catered on the day itself.
I really hope it isn't govt funding since it classified more as a political meet-the-people's session.
My guess is that the voting statistics from this part of Nee Soon must have been badly skewed against the ruling party.Originally posted by Atobe:Springlead Estate is largely a Upper Middle Income area - similar to Senett Estate in CST's Potong Pasir Ward.
The Upper Middle Income Group are better educated and politically concious, but are prudent enough to be on the "right side of the divide".
Many will not risk their place to be actively involved in politics, but will have their own reservations and positions to the exisitng politics in Singapore.
It is only in keeping with the Upper Middle Income surrounding that the 'higher quality' tentage is preferred.
Perhaps, the Ruling Party has hit rock bottom with their attempts to harvest talents to join their team, and that it is time to venture into 'less hospitable' territories to test the ground - which may prove to be more fertile in talents ?
It is the stretch of Upper thomson road along the junction of Sembawang road, bordering Nee Soon Camp, with a row of shophouses and the famous Ang Pang Yong Tao Fu.Originally posted by ah-soh:Nee Soon South is the area around Khatib MRT right?
Actually, the nearest MRT will be at the new Circle Line Station at Marymount Road-Jalan Pemimpin.Originally posted by BillyBong:It is the stretch of Upper thomson road along the junction of Sembawang road, bordering Nee Soon Camp, with a row of shophouses and the famous Ang Pang Yong Tao Fu.
It's in the middle of nowhere. Bus services that pass through are SMRT: 980, 167, 169
SBS Transit: 138 (zoo)
There is NO MRT in the area.
Whether you have the MRT in Sengkang or Nee Soon or anywhere, one thing will remain the same.Originally posted by Atobe:Actually, the nearest MRT will be at the new Circle Line Station at Marymount Road-Jalan Pemimpin.
Regretably, SMRT or LTA claims that the population density feeding this station is too low to justify its opening when completed.
I wonder what kind of density is needed before it is opened, when the next station is to be built at the junction of Bukit Timah-Farrer Road, at the corner where Serene House is; and the other one will be at Holland Village.
Are the population densities anywhere more than that at Marymount Station?
The second half of the Circle Line will be passing through many areas where the Upper Middle Income and Upper Income Communities reside, and the mass heartlander densities will be non-existent.
The next station after Holland Village will be at the Alexander Hospital location, where the population density is even lower than in the Thomson-Sin Min Road-Jalan Pemimpin area.
Why bother to spend billions of dollars and keep the station closed after completion, and after inconveniencing the neighborhood and tempting them with the prospect of MRT convenience ?
This is a sure way of riling up the grieviances of the Upper Middle Income.
Actually, the current nearest MRT station is a fight between Khatib and Yio Chu Kang. Pemimpin is already classified as Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC and not even under the care of Lee junior.Originally posted by Atobe:Actually, the nearest MRT will be at the new Circle Line Station at Marymount Road-Jalan Pemimpin.
Regretably, SMRT or LTA claims that the population density feeding this station is too low to justify its opening when completed.
I wonder what kind of density is needed before it is opened, when the next station is to be built at the junction of Bukit Timah-Farrer Road, at the corner where Serene House is; and the other one will be at Holland Village.
Are the population densities anywhere more than that at Marymount Station?
The second half of the Circle Line will be passing through many areas where the Upper Middle Income and Upper Income Communities reside, and the mass heartlander densities will be non-existent.
The next station after Holland Village will be at the Alexander Hospital location, where the population density is even lower than in the Thomson-Sin Min Road-Jalan Pemimpin area.
Why bother to spend billions of dollars and keep the station closed after completion, and after inconveniencing the neighborhood and tempting them with the prospect of MRT convenience ?
This is a sure way of riling up the grieviances of the Upper Middle Income.
Originally posted by BillyBong:If you observe the route in which the MRT lines take, it naturally takes the shape of a corridor that run through the thickest HDB Heartlands with the highest population densities.
Actually, the current nearest MRT station is a fight between Khatib and Yio Chu Kang. Pemimpin is already classified as Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC and not even under the care of Lee junior.
There used to be a service 825 (run by the now defunct TIBS) which operated to Springleaf garden and took commuters direct to Yio Chu Kang. It was an interesting route, but the frequency was a letdown and they provided only a minibus. Ultimately, after a 2-3 years, the service was cancelled.
Latest update: They just put up a stage at the park. All the residents are 'admiring' it on their morning walks...especially the old ladies and their dogs.
I'm not sure whether residents will push the boundaries concerning MRT access within the neighbourhood.Originally posted by Atobe:If you observe the route in which the MRT lines take, it naturally takes the shape of a corridor that run through the thickest HDB Heartlands with the highest population densities.
Most of the main corridors with significant Private Housing development, as along Thomson-Upper Thomson-Sembawang corridor, Bukit Timah-Upper Bukit Timah-Bukit Panjang corridors remains unserviced by the MRT.
The Circle Line will probably address this issue in an indirect way, compared to the North East Line that serviced the large private population living along the Serangoon-Upper Serangoon-Pongol Corridor.
Springleaf Estate located off Upper Thomson Road - and exiting directly into it - will naturally follow the flow towards the new Circle Line Station at Marymount-Jalan Pemimpin; with sufficient and close-by carparks at the Shunfu HDB Estate for park and ride into the City.
Prior to this Circle Line being built, Springleaf had to be connected to the nearest stations at Yio Chu Kang and Ang Mo Kio - (while Khatib will have to be a bad choice if a Springleaf resident intend to head into the City).
For all those living along the Upper Thomson-Sembawang Corridor, the journey towards (lower) Thomson Road and Lornie-Adam Road has been a nightmare for the last forty years.
The CTE - that was supposed to alleviate the heavy traffic flow - did not service the large number of Private Estates that sprang up along this corridor, and with nearly every household owning two or three cars parked within their landed compound or along the estate roads.
Is the CTE taking a "CENTRAL" route on Singapore Island, or would it be more accurate to have called it simply a North-South Expressway ?
The CTE is actually "Off Center" - as the Center Route would have been more accurate if it had run along a route that is between Bukit Timah and Thomson Corridor, unfortunately it will cut a longitudinal scar deep into the water catchment area of Seletar, Pierce and MacRitchie Resevoirs.
Both the corridors along BukitPanjang-Bukit Timah and Sembawang-Thomson are slap with a ridiculour speed limit of 70kmh, even when most parts of these corridors are 3-lanes in each direction.
Many private cars are caught by this speed restriction even at the off-peak hours late into the night when traffic is minimal.
Forty years of slow improvement is surely too long, when compared to the number of flyovers constructed along Bukit Timah - where several Cabinet Ministers reside (including SM GCT).
Perhaps the residents of Springleaf Estate can push these views to LHL, and make his visit more eventful and worthwhile ?
How did you know the "fact that almost the entire area voted against the ruling party at the last elections"?Originally posted by BillyBong:While the purpose of this visit has been to meet the residents, the likely reason behind the visit is the possible fact that almost the entire area voted against the ruling party at the last elections and Lee junior's aim is to walk the ground and cajole votes back in his favour.
Took a drive recently around the springleaf estate park where they're holding the session this coming Sunday. A lot of expensive white tentages were set up and the place seemed to have been vastly cleaned. I really wonder where the money to set up the tentages and spotlights are coming from, not to mention the food and drinks that are likely to be catered on the day itself.
I really hope it isn't govt funding since it classified more as a political meet-the-people's session.
Does it take much to show some interest?Originally posted by Jinpa:How did you know the "fact that almost the entire area voted against the ruling party at the last elections"?
Why did you intentionally took a drive RECENTLY around Springleaf Estate Park?
How do you know that they are going to hold the Session there, where the
tentages and spotlights are?
Are you an insider?
Who's going to volunteer to assasinate him on that visit?Originally posted by BillyBong:While the purpose of this visit has been to meet the residents, the likely reason behind the visit is the possible fact that almost the entire area voted against the ruling party at the last elections and Lee junior's aim is to walk the ground and cajole votes back in his favour.
Took a drive recently around the springleaf estate park where they're holding the session this coming Sunday. A lot of expensive white tentages were set up and the place seemed to have been vastly cleaned. I really wonder where the money to set up the tentages and spotlights are coming from, not to mention the food and drinks that are likely to be catered on the day itself.
I really hope it isn't govt funding since it classified more as a political meet-the-people's session.
The Residents of Springlead Estate could prepare a list of issues to be brought up for LHL to address; and these could include the following :Originally posted by BillyBong:I'm not sure whether residents will push the boundaries concerning MRT access within the neighbourhood.
That being said, even if they were to push, i wonder what the response from the dragon baby will be, considering that it took the residents of Buangkok the use of unorthodox tactics of 'white cardboard elephants' which were even deemed 'illegal' by our paranod govt to force the eventual opening of Buangkok station.
The fact that LTA planning may have somewhat alleviated the problem by making the SLE and CTE accessible to this section only works in favour of those who own a car, as the number of buses servicing the area has not changed for the last 15 years, and their frequency has not improved either.
Giving the alternatives the silent vote was probably the only way to nudge this ill-informed govt that these residents were being neglected, and considering that Lee Junior himself is making a personal appearance, gives the sordid impression that the statistics must have left him red-faced.
As it is, even with the CTE made easily accessible, it must have come as a double-hit combo the moment Raymond Lim approved the audacious increase in ERP gantry prices. The implications are that the entire northern sector who need to use the CTE are literally being held to blackmail and doubly taxed, without a viable alternative route to choose, other than to give up driving and take public transport; which will ripple-effect and jam-pack the already overcrowded peak hour human tide.
There is no need to be an 'insider' to learn FACTS when they are at your doorstep.Originally posted by Jinpa:How did you know the "fact that almost the entire area voted against the ruling party at the last elections"?
Why did you intentionally took a drive RECENTLY around Springleaf Estate Park?
How do you know that they are going to hold the Session there, where the
tentages and spotlights are?
Are you an insider?
i shall now lock the evidence for a criminal organisation to "assasinate" a senior official of the government of singapore.Originally posted by ölala:Who's going to volunteer to assasinate him on that visit?
Maybe pack a car full of explosives and ram him.