Online Confession Box for ex-PAP supporters
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aiya no matter who you vote for PAP sure win one...
I believe PAP use their authority as the ruling paty( note that they are the ruling party not the government.) and displace the different estates far apart from each other into the same GRC or what...
I think they count the number of voters from the previous election and join the lesser votes for the PAP to the area that have a majority support. Hence, no matter what, its a win win for PAP.
e.g. A part of Hougang belongs to Aljunied GRC when Aljunied is like miles away. Reason: Hougang GRC is being dominated by the workers party thus they cannot afford to lose. Thats why they combine this two areas together. -
Next GE then we will see the results. Now tok no use
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you see, singaporeans are too kia-see....
if people are unhappy about the policy in overseas, you will see them parading in large group.
In singapore, we deemed ourselves too educated to be doing such stuffs, and we are all afraid that our future will be ruined if we join in such activities and get caught by the police.
The govt obviously know that, and since they know no rioting or any big scale demonstration will take place, they can happily and peacefully do whatever they want/like.
Who dare to stand up and organise a demonstration? And even if there is one, will you dare to join??? Who dare?
frankly speaking, i will not dare to join..The useless union we have here, are all "govt" agencies..no use at all..
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Yes agree. We are different from the Hong Konger, Taiwanese and the Korean. They are good at expressing themselves. I salute to them.Originally posted by darknessfall:you see, singaporeans are too kia-see....
if people are unhappy about the policy in overseas, you will see them parading in large group.
In singapore, we deemed ourselves too educated to be doing such stuffs, and we are all afraid that our future will be ruined if we join in such activities and get caught by the police.
The govt obviously know that, and since they know no rioting or any big scale demonstration will take place, they can happily and peacefully do whatever they want/like.
Who dare to stand up and organise a demonstration? And even if there is one, will you dare to join??? Who dare?
frankly speaking, i will not dare to join..The useless union we have here, are all "govt" agencies..no use at all..
sigh..
I think it will be harder for the younger generation to "express" themselves, probably to the textbook which brainwash them.
I hate studying social studies in secondary school. -
I am living there nowOriginally posted by TYING:e.g. A part of Hougang belongs to Aljunied GRC when Aljunied is like miles away. Reason: Hougang GRC is being dominated by the workers party thus they cannot afford to lose. Thats why they combine this two areas together.
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Infact, a large part of Hougang is now under PAP...only a small part is WP. Oh ya, its Hougang SMC not GRC. Loool
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I really hope i am in Taiwan, Hong Kong, where i can walk out to the streets to demostrate my anger!Originally posted by Meilin86:Yes agree. We are different from the Hong Konger, Taiwanese and the Korean. They are good at expressing themselves. I salute to them.
I think it will be harder for the younger generation to "express" themselves, probably to the textbook which brainwash them.
I hate studying social studies in secondary school.
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Let's start a Brown Sunday campaign. Let's all wear brown on every Sunday. It'll be fun to see the papers report this and the government facing a brown Singapore.
In support for Mr. Brown and telling saying that the government they shouldn't wear white to symbolize purity. They should wear brown because their policies are like s.h.i.t. -
Dr Chee on GST increase:-
14 Nov 06
Could there be anything worse than the Government raising the GST to 7 percent when Singaporeans are hurting economically, especially those in the lower income groups?
Yes, the spin that raising the GST would benefit those in the lower income groups.
Ignoring all the data showing that the poorest households continue to see their incomes fall, the Government makes bald assertions that its latest move to increase the GST would in fact benefit these people.
PM Lee Hsien Loong tells Parliament that it is good to increase the GST while the economy is good. This begs the question: Good for whom?
While the rich continue to get richer, many of whom are not Singaporeans, poor Singaporeans are left with nothing but desperation. The number of suicides, mental illnesses, crimes and divorces has mushroomed in recent years and is a result of the GovernmentmentÂ’s heartless economic policies.
All this while PAP Ministers live the good life by paying themselves millions of dollars in salaries, oblivious to the hardship and toil of the average Singaporean.
Yet the elite of society remains unrepentant. It even derides the working class for not having the wherewithal to make a success of life. Worse, PAP MPs continue to chide Singaporeans for “complaining” and not taking enough responsibility.
In the meantime, Government entities like Temasek Holdings make reckless decisions that cost Singaporeans billions of dollars in questionable business ventures.
Is the GST hike, set to rake in almost $1.5 billion for the Government over two years, an attempt to recoup the losses made over the Temasek-Shin Corp and Singtel-Optus deals?
The horrendously careless acquisition of Shin Corp may incur losses of up to $3 billion while the much-criticised ownership of Optus stands to face a write-down of up to $8 billion.
In addition, has the Government been transferring our reserves to state-owned enterprises to prop these companies up since the Constitution was amended in 2004 to allow this?
Sadly, however, no answers will be forthcoming. Worse, the PAP is thumbing its nose at Singaporeans and saying: “So what if we increase the GST? What are you going to do about it?”
This is because the system manipulated by the PAP shields it from having to account to the people. It does not allow Singaporeans to speak and vote freely which means that we will continue to live under the thumb of the ruling elite.
Depending on their mood, ministers will from time to time encourage citizens to speak up. But make no mistake: this is not a change of heart. It is just a ploy to mollify the electorate and give them a chance to let off steam.
The Singapore Democrats feel the frustration and the anguish of the people. But without our rights to free speech and peaceful assembly, citizens are powerless to make the Government more responsive to our needs.
Without citizen power, the Government will not have to consult the people and it can do as it wishes, when it wishes.
The SDP will continue to raise issues concerning the welfare of our fellow citizens. This remains our priority. But in order to help the people to improve their quality of life and welfare, we need to work to take back our democratic rights without which we will continue to be at the mercy of the PAP.
Chee Soon Juan
Secretary-General
Singapore Democratic Party
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The problem is that the opposition does not put forward their own solution or their own plan. Maybe they do but people are not aware. So people perceive that they can't seem to stand on their own without the PAP. They have to leverage on PAP's mistakes and unpopularity instead of their own ability. They have to do better than that if they really wanna beat the PAP.
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The opposition parties.... They "shoot" the PAP.... They criticize PAP's policies and style of governing.... Everything they say feels so close to the hearts of the average Singaporean... but why aren't they getting the majority of the votes?
Because they failed to win over the hearts of Singaporeans who paused a while to think... "So what if you raised all the problems and difficulties of Singapore citizens? We also know what we are going through now... What we want is solutions! Credible and feasible solutions! No blabbering of nonsense.... No promises that are simply impossible to achieve!"
The opposition has touched the hearts of many by raising out the current problems that we face... but they lack the solutions to win over the majority of the votes...
**Will you vote for a movie critic to become a movie director just because he is good at criticizing movies?**
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Wow!Originally posted by Y_Shun:I am living there now ...
Infact, a large part of Hougang is now under PAP...only a small part is WP. Oh ya, its Hougang SMC not GRC. Loool
Same for me too
Which part of Hougang SMC do you live in ?
Eric Low chiku is still not ripe after contesting there for 2 times
Wonder his chiku is imported from where -
I also voted PAP, in Sembawang GRC. Not much choice there, considering the quality, or lack of it, which the SDP put forth.
I think that the PAP has done well in the past to help Singapore get to where we are now. However, I'm beginning to have some doubts about the current leadership and its policies to cope with the challenges of the future. On the other hand, the opposition parties have yet to come up with any viable and credible alternatives. Hence my outlook for the future is somewhat pessimistic. -
Wanted to cast my vote for opposition but my area walkover. It is not a matter of not grateful, but to balance the power in the politic arena. As can be seem, Singapore is slowly being transformed into ancient Emperor system, the people are slave to the ruling party and not the other way around.
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i will vote against PAP in the future just to balance up the votes a little to show let PAP know that they have to treat us better in the long run
instead of offering us free/cheap abalone and shark fin or free breakfast and gifts when the voting period come
singaporeans are too kiasu they voted pap just because of all these freebies
and opposition parties need a louder voice why not vote for them -
I admit that i regretted voting for PAP.....but then, i have no choice....I am from Sembawang GRC and the votes can be traced...Yes...I am HAM CHEE....
I will defnitely try to migrate to Taiwan if i have the chance....
The way the PAP control the media and telecomunication network, it will be hard for anyone to organise anything without being traced...I doubt even using flash mob concept to organise guerilla warfare type of protest will be easy since everywhere in spore got security cameras....
The only way i can see is that either LKY dies and LHL also dies...then maybe we have some hope of overturning the system...
Else, pray that our neighbours will INVADE us....cos by then all of us will be required to draw arms and fight away the invaders... if invaders are successful in conquering us...we will get to change over govt....if we manage to repel invaders, we can easily organise a coup to displace our govt cos we already have the firearms with us....
Till that day arrive, I will just be like a factory operator working in this PAP made factory island of system, devoid of speech freedom and slog till i die, turning my sweat and hard work into nourishment for the assholes MPs who have no idea wat the mid and lower income people needs.... -
Yes, I did vote for the PAP and will continue to do so simply because the callibre of the opposition is very much poorer........ Ok, so they may have made a major boo-boo by wanting to increase GST but is the opposition capable of anything except kpkb? Any idiot can identify where and what the problems are but is there anyone capable of coming up with a credible alternative?
We don't need opposition candidates to be scholars and professors. Juz look at the behavior of the opposition members. They look like thugs and gangsters to me and nary give me any confidence in entrusting the fate of the nation in their hands!!!
So long as the opposition members are composed of such low life, I will continue to vote for the PAP, as will many others............!
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Its quite true kids from young has been brainwashed. Look at the Kindergarden...PAP oso. Luckily I attended Private ones.
In Parliment now is like 2 against 80?? how to fight. Majority overrule everything.
Lucky my area is WP. lolz.. I have always dun like he way PAP do things already. But too bad, most of the voter who support PAP are either bo chap, moneky see monkey do, because things which happen din affect them or din think hard enough.
2011 election would be kinda interesting but only if the old man is 6 ft under.
Oppss.. better dun say much.. later ISA people are also surfing the net and I become the next MR Brown. lolz... -
In general, I agree that the opposition lacks quality. A few more Slyvia Lim, Low Thia Khiang and Chiam See Tong would be extremely helpful in their case.
However, taking a look from their position. Are they incapable of putting forward their solutions? I think if we forumers here can think of solutions, surely they could too.
So that leaves us with why are they not putting for their solutions? Before we condemn them as NATO, let's put ourselves in their position as examine these.
Let ask ourselves why CST did not promise 80million upgrade package to PP residents? Could he not thought of this? Or is it because they know they do not have the power/ authority to change this and so; instead of making empty promises, the best they can do is to highlight the flaws in PAP's policies and hopefully, the citizens will become aware and the PAP might decide not to implement these unpopular policies.
Take the "means testing" policy proposed by our health minister. Had the opposition put forth so many questions that he cannot answer, I believe means testing would be fully in place right now.
Then we move on to why did the opposition not have power to change things? Well, this is simple. It is because there are idiots who would constantly choose to be blinded and continues to hand absolute power to the ruling party.
Imagine a parliament where there are 20 or even 30 opposition. The ruling party would think thrice or four times before implementing any policies that might hurt the general population; instead of simply announcing new policy, roll them out and give the public crap excuse for doing it; expecting no retaliation in return. -
Originally posted by freakass:
Actually, LHL claimed that by increasing GST, it is to help the poor, to close up the gap of the rich and poor. As many have said, raising GST is across the board, everyone suffer from it, so at the end of the day, it is still the same.
The opposition parties.... They "shoot" the PAP.... They criticize PAP's policies and style of governing.... Everything they say feels so close to the hearts of the average Singaporean... but why aren't they getting the majority of the votes?
Because they failed to win over the hearts of Singaporeans who paused a while to think... "So what if you raised all the problems and difficulties of Singapore citizens? We also know what we are going through now... What we want is solutions! Credible and feasible solutions! No blabbering of nonsense.... No promises that are simply impossible to achieve!"
The opposition has touched the hearts of many by raising out the current problems that we face... but they lack the solutions to win over the majority of the votes...
[b]**Will you vote for a movie critic to become a movie director just because he is good at criticizing movies?**
Think about it... [/b]
The SOLUTION is simple, raise tax on the high income, distribute them to the low income.
However, this will not be done.. u know why?
Simply becos, our dear Ministers, MPs etc belong to the super rich category, u think they will raise their tax of the rich and decrease their income? -
slowly? we are already in the system!Originally posted by adven7:Wanted to cast my vote for opposition but my area walkover. It is not a matter of not grateful, but to balance the power in the politic arena. As can be seem, Singapore is slowly being transformed into ancient Emperor system, the people are slave to the ruling party and not the other way around.
We need a Sun Yat Sen for revolution! -
My fren.. for a start, we do not need opposition to put forward any solutions.. what we urgently need now is 'Check and balance'. Without the necessary opposition to 'check' our government, the power of one has absolute authority to implement any policies they want! (GST, GLCs, Fat pays etc..)Originally posted by kheldorin:The problem is that the opposition does not put forward their own solution or their own plan. Maybe they do but people are not aware. So people perceive that they can't seem to stand on their own without the PAP. They have to leverage on PAP's mistakes and unpopularity instead of their own ability. They have to do better than that if they really wanna beat the PAP.
I will not say they depended on PAP's mistakes and unpopularity, they are actually doing their job by exposing PAP's mistakes and their unpopular policies. True, we can do the same on forums, but without anyone in parliament, our posts will stay as just, internet posting. -
Originally posted by freakass:
Well.. 'shooting' out at PAP's mistakes and lousy policies is every opposition's job! We dun need a yes sir opposition!
The opposition parties.... They "shoot" the PAP.... They criticize PAP's policies and style of governing.... Everything they say feels so close to the hearts of the average Singaporean... but why aren't they getting the majority of the votes?
Because they failed to win over the hearts of Singaporeans who paused a while to think... "So what if you raised all the problems and difficulties of Singapore citizens? We also know what we are going through now... What we want is solutions! Credible and feasible solutions! No blabbering of nonsense.... No promises that are simply impossible to achieve!"
The opposition has touched the hearts of many by raising out the current problems that we face... but they lack the solutions to win over the majority of the votes...
[b]**Will you vote for a movie critic to become a movie director just because he is good at criticizing movies?**
Think about it... [/b]
Solutions? If we have a powerful opposition force in parliament, GST increase will be debated and possibly cancelled or even decrease! I see this as solution.
Due to our 146th ranking press.. many have bought into PAP's plans to discrediting oppositions.. especially good ones. -
We need far more checks than the current 3 opposition figures.Originally posted by siaokao:My fren.. for a start, we do not need opposition to put forward any solutions.. what we urgently need now is 'Check and balance'. Without the necessary opposition to 'check' our government, the power of one has absolute authority to implement any policies they want! (GST, GLCs, Fat pays etc..)
I will not say they depends on PAP's mistakes and unpopularity, they are actually doing their job by exposing PAP's mistakes and their unpopular policies. True, we can do the same on forums, but without anyone in parliament, our posts will say as just, internet posting.
http://www.parliament.gov.sg/reports/public/hansard/full/20060227/20060227_HR.html
Search for Mr Low Thia Khiang and read his speech. You can follow up by reading Seng Han Thong's (PAP AMK) rebutting speech.
Best part of Mr. Low's speech:
"But according to the survey conducted by the Department of Statistics, the monthly income of families in the lowest 20 percentile dropped from $933 in 1998 to $795 in 2003, but the cost of living was $1,259 - a serious shortfall. The gini coefficient, which measures the disparity between the poor and the rich, is getting worse, year by year. It is, in fact, worse than that in the United States, Europe, Japan and Korea. This is indeed worrying!"
Best part of Seah's speech:
"I would like to praise the Finance Minister for introducing this Workfare Bonus, a bonus that encourages the people to work. Now, everybody is talking of how much he or she is getting - a small ang pow, a big ang pow, or a medium-sized ang pow. Of course, those who get a big ang pow will have to work harder, and because they are older, they need to work harder. According to the newspaper report, this is a something that very few other countries can emulate. "
Scanning through that budget debate gave me a bitter-sweet feeling.
I cry for fellow Singaporeans when I read the oppositions' speeches.
I laugh at the funny interesting arguements made by the PAPPIES. -
Guys guys..
OPPOSITION CANNOT PUT FORWARD SOLUTIONS..
is a PAP story..
Looks like our 146th ranking media is doing a great job. -
Can.. protest here lo..Originally posted by goaler:I really hope i am in Taiwan, Hong Kong, where i can walk out to the streets to demostrate my anger!
is there something we can do to show our displeasure?!
Anyway to say so much is no use.. we voted for PaP.. live with it..