CSJ been drugged?
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go to babes forum, you might suffer from nose bleed..but still its cheaper than heart treatment..Originally posted by buses_galore:I don't like all this it turns me off...must not think too much later get heart attack hospital bill very high...
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singapore's intelligence services certainly dont have the expertise and connections to carry out such an assasination operation even if it wanted to, unlike the KGB. and this little nation of ours certainly tries to seem and punch above its actual weight on the international arena.Originally posted by walesa:Have you any idea how the outside world responded to Francis Seow's detention in 1988? Little coverage was given to that issue by the state-controlled media, but coverage elsewhere was certainly far more extensive.
For a start, the Philippines(prior to Seow's detention) had already offered him asylum(when things first started to go wrong) if he wanted and had mooted a plan to boycott tourism to Singapore. In addition, Seow stood for the '88 elections as an opposition candidate partly because he had the support of the US ambassador to Singapore at that point in time and needless to say, asylum in the US was never an issue should he ever take up that option(which proved the case eventually as he's officially - by the fascist media anyway - considered to be on self-imposed exile for some bogus tax evasion charges. In light of that, can LKY, the tough-talking but gutless fascist masked in the facade of a democrat, really afford to pursue a course of action that would incur the wrath of catalysts pivotal to Singapore's economy?
In that context, Francis Seow is certainly a far more reputable figure and has a much-higher profile than CSJ which this regime didn't dare mess with that lightly.
Tough-talking as the fascists may be, LKY certainly hasn't got the balls - even if he had the ambition - of Hitler.
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Originally posted by 4getmenot:go to babes forum, you might suffer from nose bleed..but still its cheaper than heart treatment..
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Well.. this tread seems to suggest CSJ was 'drugged'. Its unlikly he will be 'Killed' and make a Matyr simply by 'drugging'.Originally posted by Hogzilla:I examine my post a few times, I couldn't find the word, "poison". back to you.
I dunno what gave you the idea that I mentioned poison and being uncreative. back to you again.
Since in your post, u mention 'Kill' and 'matyr', I would assume you are refering 'Poison'.. as in recent 'KGB' case.
But of coz, even in 'poisioning', you do not need to kill him outright and make him a 'matyr'. Such an act will be extrememly 'uncreative'.
Hope the above clears the air..
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Actually, what we're famed for is being the bootlickers of the big boys on the global stage - yes, that's what the world's best paid politicians are paid to do : bootlick!Originally posted by vito_corleone:singapore's intelligence services certainly dont have the expertise and connections to carry out such an assasination operation even if it wanted to, unlike the KGB. and this little nation of ours certainly tries to seem and punch above its actual weight on the international arena.
Only difference, the state-controlled media paints a rosy picture of their "work" which gives the masses(for most folks who do not know the existence of print media besides the Straits Times) a colourful insightful into the efforts of the fascists. -
Frog"S" in a well
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Originally posted by kopikid:
You are spot on with your statement : "Frog"S" in a well"
Frog"S" in a well
Is it not already a fact that all that Singaporeans are like frogs living in a small well built by this Singapore Government; and that the small opening at the top of the well can only allow Singaporeans to see that amount of light that are allowed to be seen by this Government ?
With the control of all media and publications allowed to be heard and read by Singaporeans - Singaporeans are frogs living in a well.
Those Singaporeans able to get out of this small well, will be in a better position to appreciate the wide sky with the vast liberties and opportunities that is far bigger - which Singaporeans could share; except that this Singapore Government prefer to have the cake and eat it for themselves; leavng the crumbs for the Frogs in the Well. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
What do you expect from prison cell, a VIP suit? VIP treatment? VIP food?
Has CSJ been drugged??
[b]Urgent: Dr Chee Soon Juan's health deteriorates in prison,28 Nov 06
2.Can i say this article implied CSJ has been drugged?
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Why are we all avoid going to jail?
If you can find comfort in prison cell, then all Singaporean will rush into it.
After this discomforting experience, may be Dr Chee will learn and will try to avoid getting into trouble and into jail. -
Why should a man be jailed for speaking in public when pasar malams are everywhere and people gather at voiddecks to chit chat.
It's political, that's why. Scrap this law and we will have much more common sense. -
Maybe he is just sick la....too early to say anything.
Meat Pao.
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Because its uniquely singapore..Originally posted by LazerLordz:Why should a man be jailed for speaking in public when pasar malams are everywhere and people gather at voiddecks to chit chat.
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DO you think that CSJ will quit because of that? On the other hand...do you have the courage to be as brave as him?Originally posted by pisces8:What do you expect from prison cell, a VIP suit? VIP treatment? VIP food?
Why are we all avoid going to jail?
If you can find comfort in prison cell, then all Singaporean will rush into it.
After this discomforting experience, may be Dr Chee will learn and will try to avoid getting into trouble and into jail. -
From the article in opening thread,do u think they are
openly and indirectly accussing spore govt drugging CSJ?
Since CSJ or his parties suspect CSJ had been drugged,
they should do all the followings now without and delay and excuses.
If they dunt,it means they are frameing up Spore government .
1.Make a written complaint to Prisons Services.
2.Complain to Justice of Peace (JP) who visit Prison.
3.Complain to
WONG KAN SENG who,ironically,the MP of CSJ and who also oversee Prisons.
4.Hold a press conference in Foreign Correspondents Asso to
air their evidences and views.Foreign medias are badly hungry
for this news
How is CSJ now??
28 Nov 06 For immediate release:
Dr Chee Soon Juan's health deteriorates in prison.
5.Ha??If so serious of CSJ,why no update?No press briefing?
Black out of news cant happen nowadays.
A e mail can draw hundred of foreign medias to Queenstown Remand Prison !!
2.Lets re read what they wrote:During the brief half an hour meeting, Dr Chee revealed that he had not eaten since the morning of Monday 27 November. This was because every time he ate what was served to him, he would feel nauseous and dizzy and then throw up...
...The above cases give real cause for concern and suspicion for the enormous discomfort that Dr Chee is presently experiencing. -
I am not Dr Chee and therefore I am not able to comment when he will quit.Originally posted by Lowclassman:DO you think that CSJ will quit because of that? On the other hand...do you have the courage to be as brave as him?
Is Dr Chee courageous? In which way is he brave? By bringing out domestic issues to International Court of Justice? By the hunger strike stun he had performed (no solid food but juice)? By calling then PM names and acting like hooligan in the market when he met with GCT?
Sorry I will never be as brave as Dr Chee in the way he acted. -
Why do you think Devan Nair left the country before speaking out against LKY? How about Francis Seow? Please challenge yourself intellectually before posting in the future.Originally posted by lionnoisy:From the article in opening thread,do u think they are
openly and indirectly accussing spore govt drugging CSJ?
Since CSJ or his parties suspect CSJ had been drugged,
they should do all the followings now without and delay and excuses.
If they dunt,it means they are frameing up Spore government .
1.Make a written complaint to Prisons Services.
2.Complain to Justice of Peace (JP) who visit Prison.
3.Complain to
[b]WONG KAN SENG who,ironically,the MP of CSJ and who also oversee Prisons.
4.Hold a press conference in Foreign Correspondents Asso to
air their evidences and views.Foreign medias are badly hungry
for this news
How is CSJ now??
28 Nov 06 For immediate release:
Dr Chee Soon Juan's health deteriorates in prison.
5.Ha??If so serious of CSJ,why no update?No press briefing?
Black out of news cant happen nowadays.
A e mail can draw hundred of foreign medias to Queenstown Remand Prison !!
2.Lets re read what they wrote: -
I want to say this;
Even if THEY manage to physically KILL CSJ in prison, it will not stop their loss of supporters.
Simply because the FAITH of a country's people, is like sand - the tighter you squeeze, the more sand will leak out between the fingers of your imperfect hands... -
Maybe the prison officer asked 10 women to rape him.Originally posted by lionnoisy:From the article in opening thread,do u think they are
openly and indirectly accussing spore govt drugging CSJ?
Since CSJ or his parties suspect CSJ had been drugged,
they should do all the followings now without and delay and excuses.
If they dunt,it means they are frameing up Spore government .
1.Make a written complaint to Prisons Services.
2.Complain to Justice of Peace (JP) who visit Prison.
3.Complain to
[b]WONG KAN SENG who,ironically,the MP of CSJ and who also oversee Prisons.
4.Hold a press conference in Foreign Correspondents Asso to
air their evidences and views.Foreign medias are badly hungry
for this news
How is CSJ now??
28 Nov 06 For immediate release:
Dr Chee Soon Juan's health deteriorates in prison.
5.Ha??If so serious of CSJ,why no update?No press briefing?
Black out of news cant happen nowadays.
A e mail can draw hundred of foreign medias to Queenstown Remand Prison !!
2.Lets re read what they wrote: -
After so much has been discussed, has anyone actually appreciated the drug valium, the reasons for its use, and its side effects ?
Some of the published side-effects are exactly the complaints made by CSJ.
While the Constitution has allowed for Free Speech and the gathering of Singaporeans - which CSJ is demanding its entire implementation - the Ruling Party has seen it to their advantage to place limitations and curtail such opportunities to others who dare to challenge them in POLITICS.
Should the Politicians from the Ruling Party be allowed the full liberties guaranted by the Constitution in conducting public speeches on ad hoc basis and without Police Permits, while Politicians from the Alternative Parties are subjected to all kinds of impediments to exercise the same ?
What is Valium (diazepam) ?
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• Valium (diazepam) is used to relieve anxiety, nervousness, and tension associated with anxiety disorders. It is also used to treat certain types of seizure disorders and muscle spasms.
• Valium (diazepam) may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide
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• If you experience any of the following serious side effects, stop taking Valium (diazepam) and seek emergency medical attention or contact your doctor immediately:
· an allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing of your throat; swelling of your lips, face, or tongue; or hives);
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· hallucinations or severe confusion; or
· changes in your vision.
• Other, less serious side effects may be more likely to occur. Continue to take Valium (diazepam) and talk to your doctor if you experience
· drowsiness, dizziness, or clumsiness;
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1. IF this happens in Singapore Prison.. you actually think it will help writing to prisons dept itself?? THINK!Originally posted by lionnoisy:From the article in opening thread,do u think they are
openly and indirectly accussing spore govt drugging CSJ?
Since CSJ or his parties suspect CSJ had been drugged,
they should do all the followings now without and delay and excuses.
If they dunt,it means they are frameing up Spore government .
1.Make a written complaint to Prisons Services.
2.Complain to Justice of Peace (JP) who visit Prison.
3.Complain to
[b]WONG KAN SENG who,ironically,the MP of CSJ and who also oversee Prisons.
4.Hold a press conference in Foreign Correspondents Asso to
air their evidences and views.Foreign medias are badly hungry
for this news
How is CSJ now??
28 Nov 06 For immediate release:
Dr Chee Soon Juan's health deteriorates in prison.
5.Ha??If so serious of CSJ,why no update?No press briefing?
Black out of news cant happen nowadays.
A e mail can draw hundred of foreign medias to Queenstown Remand Prison !!
2.Lets re read what they wrote:
2. Chief Justice also wun do anything.. u think Justice of Peace will, or can do anything? THINK!
3. Its MIW, Wong's department that manages prison.. IF the suspected act is allowed in prison.. u think who give the permission is the 1st place? THINK!
4. Publish that and wait to be sued and ban from Singapore? THINK!
5. Who owns Singaporean media? THINK!
6. Without carrying out any independent test, how can SDP be sure Chee is drugged? SO, its only a suspicion! THINK!
No one is sure if CHEE is actually being drugged at all! This tread only discuss what was reported on SDP's website.
I know you are Pro PAP.. but please THINK b4 posting. -
opposition parties have to make use of current sys to
fight.
If u dunt lodge formal complaint,there will be no case to fight.
Just as CSJ failed to submit defense on time and let the Court
make summary judgement. -
That's quite naive. The current system is heavily skewed towards the ruling party.Originally posted by lionnoisy:opposition parties have to make use of current sys to
fight.
If u dunt lodge formal complaint,there will be no case to fight.
Just as CSJ failed to submit defense on time and let the Court
make summary judgement.
And who's to say that this system is the best for Singapore? Times change, maybe systems have to evolve as well. -
i never say current sys is the best and no need to be improved.
how CSJ can grow opposition and his party if he always in jail
and cant run for election?He should ,like other 2 long life oppositions,
play the game wisely and stay with the game.Not out of the game.
2.Foreign medias cant be controlled by PAP so easily.If
SDP has hard or indirect evidences that CSJ had been drugged,
foreign medias can make them public without fear of being
sued.If they are afraid sued,they should quit the jobs.
3.I saw the claim being drugged as another James Gomez's style
''You lost my application form'' claim.
If there is no CCTV,PAP would be blamed.
So CSJ should be taped,like in WB meeting stand off,24 hours
inside prison.Should somethings happen,ha ha,the tapes
are the evidences!!
4.Why PAP do not hit back?1000 lies become fact!! -
I'll say that he's confirmed to be a second Suharto!
quote:Originally posted by Skibi:
What are you insinuating about LKY?[/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by walesa:He's a crook who is better dressed than a gentleman... In other words, a legitimate version of the Mafia. -
pl read sat 02 Dec Strait times for CSJ ''drugging''!!
The response from MHA is so so late!!
i am sick of SDP posting so many foreign orgs appeals and comments
on spore internal affairs.
2.The role of opposition leaders is keep out of jail to promote democracy!! -
and you think the local media will highlight what SDP has to say?Originally posted by lionnoisy:pl read sat 02 Dec Strait times for CSJ ''drugging''!!
The response from MHA is so so late!!
i am sick of SDP posting so many foreign orgs appeals and comments
on spore internal affairs.
2.The role of opposition leaders is keep out of jail to promote democracy!!
And Mandala was jailed before..so was Suu Kyi who is still under tight house arrest...so was Kim Dae Jueng the former president of South Korea.. all the above were jailed for promoting and fighting for in the Name of Democracy and Human Rights..
DO you see any resemblances?