S'pore's ministers pay "lags behind private sector benchmark
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Hopefully LKY dies before the next round.Originally posted by mistyblue:maybe the next round would not be 66, so milk it for all its worth... -
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Its funny actually.. when they ask the sinkaporeans not to be choosy about work or salary and that there are plenty of jobs out there for everyone but is taken because the FTs are less choosy? but then they as a 'servant' to the society of singapore are more interested in the high perk salaries and the things that come with it, because if it doesn;t, 'they' might end up with such 'talents' going into the private sector??
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I guess we're paying substantial economic rent for these pap poodles eh?Originally posted by 4getmenot:Its funny actually.. when they ask the sinkaporeans not to be choosy about work or salary and that there are plenty of jobs out there for everyone but is taken because the FTs are less choosy? but then they as a 'servant' to the society of singapore are more interested in the high perk salaries and the things that come with it, because if it doesn;t, 'they' might end up with such 'talents' going into the private sector?? -
maybe he's cloned himself...Originally posted by av98m:Hopefully LKY dies before the next round.
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please don't give him any sick ideas
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Maybe we should start pegging our salary to Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, etc.
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well, looks like the ministers are under the delusion that they are in those fellas' company?Originally posted by maurizio13:Maybe we should start pegging our salary to Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, George Soros, etc.
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A prophet is never welcomed in his own country. I dread the day of LKY's passing and I hope Singapore will continue to enjoy the support we are enjoying from foreign countries.
And when he does go, inevitably. I hope he'll keep to his promise to rise from his grave if Singapore runs into trouble. Maybe only then, through the baptism of fire, will Singaporeans truly realize how much we have benefited. -
proph¡Eet /ˈprɒfɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prof-it] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA PronunciationOriginally posted by ProGovt:A prophet is never welcomed in his own country. I dread the day of LKY's passing and I hope Singapore will continue to enjoy the support we are enjoying for foreign countries.
And when he does go, inevitably. I hope he'll keep to his promise to rise from his grave if Singapore runs into trouble. Maybe only then, through the baptism of fire, will Singapore truly realize how much we have benefited.
¡Vnoun 1. a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration.
2. (in the Old Testament) a. a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people of Israel: Moses was the greatest of Old Testament prophets.
b. (often initial capital letter) one of the Major or Minor Prophets.
c. one of a band of ecstatic visionaries claiming divine inspiration and, according to popular belief, possessing magical powers.
d. a person who practices divination.
3. one of a class of persons in the early church, next in order after the apostles, recognized as inspired to utter special revelations and predictions. 1 Cor. 12:28.
4. the Prophet, Muhammad, the founder of Islam.
5. a person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired teacher or leader.
6. a person who foretells or predicts what is to come: a weather prophet; prophets of doom.
7. a spokesperson of some doctrine, cause, or movement.
You claim he is a prophet? Has he changed occupation to religious leader?
Stop quoting Luke 4:24, I think it's blasphemous and sacrilege using something held sacred on a mere mortal.
Then the Lord said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. -
"A prophet is seldom welcome in his own country" is an expression. If I had meant it literally, then I would be blasphemous.
Since you are a fervent Christian as you seem to proclaim, didn't God ask that you subject yourself first to God; then to the laws of the world? Or do you need me to quote you the scriptures?
Remember that you are a living testimony and a beacon of God's teaching. Anything that you say or do will either praise or shame God. -
Since when is he ever a prophet?Originally posted by ProGovt:"A prophet is seldom welcome in his own country" is an expression. If I had meant it literally, then I would be blasphemous.
Since you are a fervent Christian as you seem to proclaim, didn't God ask that you subject yourself first to God; then to the laws of the world? Or do you need me to quote you the scriptures?
Remember that you are a living testimony and a beacon of God's teaching. Anything that you say or do will either praise or shame God.
I am no Christian.
I think it would be sacrilege for you to quote from the bible (if you don't even know that it originated from the bible).
Well, you expression has it's origins in the bible and you are comparing a mere mortal with a prophet. I don't think it's such a good thing to make a mockery of others religion. -
I guess it's alright for you to err in grandiose, afterall, many Germans thought that Hitler was the new messiah.Originally posted by ProGovt:"A prophet is seldom welcome in his own country" is an expression. If I had meant it literally, then I would be blasphemous.
Since you are a fervent Christian as you seem to proclaim, didn't God ask that you subject yourself first to God; then to the laws of the world? Or do you need me to quote you the scriptures?
Remember that you are a living testimony and a beacon of God's teaching. Anything that you say or do will either praise or shame God. -
what has a prophet got to do with LKY?Originally posted by ProGovt:A prophet is never welcomed in his own country. I dread the day of LKY's passing and I hope Singapore will continue to enjoy the support we are enjoying from foreign countries.
And when he does go, inevitably. I hope he'll keep to his promise to rise from his grave if Singapore runs into trouble. Maybe only then, through the baptism of fire, will Singaporeans truly realize how much we have benefited.
"Maybe only then, through the baptism of fire, will Singaporeans truly realize how much we have benefited."
- i wonder if you know what you are talking bout? what has the teachings of bible got to do with politics or the way a country is being run?
Please leave the bible out of this...
and that brings me to the final question..
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who's baptism of fire are you talking bout? isn't that blasphemy oredi?Originally posted by ProGovt:And when he does go, inevitably. I hope he'll keep to his promise to rise from his grave if Singapore runs into trouble. Maybe only then, through the baptism of fire, will Singaporeans truly realize how much we have benefited. -
Hmm... perhaps you should read up the bible more to truly understand what I was trying to say. I wasn't calling MM Lee a prophet as in definition than an expression.Originally posted by maurizio13:Well, you expression has it's origins in the bible and you are comparing a mere mortal with a prophet. I don't think it's such a good thing to make a mockery of others religion.
When Jesus was entering the city of Jerusalem, his home town, people questioned his authenticity as they knew him and his family. Jesus was there to deliver the Jews but yet they treated him with doubt and jealousy. Hence, Jesus made the comment that a prophet is seldom welcome in his own country.
I used the phrase to draw similarly between the way Singaporean are treating MM and the way the Jews treated Jesus and I'm sure fellow Christians will not be offended.
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not until you retract this statement -Originally posted by ProGovt:Hmm... perhaps you should read up the bible more to truly understand what I was trying to say. I wasn't calling MM Lee a prophet as in definition than an expression.
When Jesus was entering the city of Jerusalem, his home town, people questioned his authenticity as they knew him and his family. Jesus was there to deliver the Jews but yet they treated him with doubt and jealousy. Hence, Jesus made the comment that a prophet is seldom welcome in his own country.
I used the phrase to draw similarly between the way Singaporean are treating MM and the way the Jews treated Jesus and I'm sure fellow Christians will not be offended.
That being said, this discussion on religion should end here.
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Baptism of fire is a commonly used expression to describe trouble times and testings. Yes it is from the bible, again.Originally posted by 4getmenot:who's baptism of fire are you talking bout? isn't that blasphemy oredi?
Singaporeans are pampered, we have been placed in a position of advantage but we are too lazy to make full use of what we have. We have more opportunities to succeed but we expect success to be deliver to us.
Sometimes, people have to loose what they have to truly understand the value of it. That is what I was trying to say. -
You not only quote that passage from Luke 4:24.Originally posted by ProGovt:Hmm... perhaps you should read up the bible more to truly understand what I was trying to say. I wasn't calling MM Lee a prophet as in definition than an expression.
When Jesus was entering the city of Jerusalem, his home town, people questioned his authenticity as they knew him and his family. Jesus was there to deliver the Jews but yet they treated him with doubt and jealousy. Hence, Jesus made the comment that a prophet is seldom welcome in his own country.
I used the phrase to draw similarly between the way Singaporean are treating MM and the way the Jews treated Jesus and I'm sure fellow Christians will not be offended.
That being said, this discussion on religion should end here
And when he does go, inevitably. I hope he'll keep to his promise to rise from his grave if Singapore runs into trouble. Maybe only then, through the baptism of fire, will Singaporeans truly realize how much we have benefited. .
You compare him to Christ, "promise to rise from his grave", isn't that tantamount to comparing him to the resurrection of Christ.
What "baptism of fire"? -
Baptism of fire is a commonly used expression to describe trouble times and testings. Yes it is from the bible, again.
Yes - its from the bible
Wrong - its not commonly used expression to describe troubled times and testings especially when you are talking bout an individual or politics.
Singaporeans are pampered, we have been placed in a position of advantage but we are too lazy to make full use of what we have. We have more opportunities to succeed but we expect success to be deliver to us. - Thats your opinion
Sometimes, people have to loose what they have to truly understand the value of it. That is what I was trying to say. - so are you amounting that the loose of MM is equal to the Singaporeans as to the loose of Jesus to Jews?
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Out of topic.
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Originally posted by NUS_Superst@r:Out of topic.
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Wrong? How old are you, btw? I wouldn't be surprise if you have not heard of this expression if you are young but I would be very astonished to know if you are already a working adult and have not heard of this.Originally posted by 4getmenot:Wrong - its not commonly used expression to describe troubled times and testings especially when you are talking bout an individual or politics.
Even my niece who is just in secondary knows of this phrase. -
Woohoo, we have another mee siam mai hum guy.
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Firstly - if you want to talk about age, please open another thread with 'how old are you?" or better yet, make a search, i'm pretty sure there are one or two threads about it.Originally posted by ProGovt:Wrong? How old are you, btw? I wouldn't be surprise if you have not heard of this expression if you are young but I would be very astonished to know if you are already a working adult and have not heard of this.
Even my niece who is just in secondary knows of this phrase.
Secondly, - name me a few examples which the term "baptism of fire" was USED. Since you implied it was a commonly used term, i really would like to see some topics or articles relating to an individual or politics that said this very words? yes, maybe your niece can quote me some examples as well..
Enlighten me..