Singapore scores well in global corruption perception index
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Unfortunately, those societies you deem to be unsuitable for the message of universal values like freedom and human rights belong in an increasingly small minority.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:And in a similar vein, so is the understanding of what constitutes human rights to groups such as Amnesty International. Their narrow perception of freedom and human rights is not suitable for all societies and is targeted carefully for a leftist audience.
There's an ideological battle out there, which is still going on. Economics is just one of the players in the whole game.
Amnesty International and Transparency International both have agendas, but they provide a lesser evil in enabling a framework for everyone from laymen to lobbyists to gauge against.
To have a bigger picture, we must look at the holistic spread provided by all elements and all organisations. To deny the authenticity or comparative effectiveness of AI's influence, is to commit the same mistake as believing wholesale what TI might want to say.
Anyway, Spinsugar brings up a valid point. Micromanagement is easy when you have a small population to legislator ratio. -
Whilst big nations may have advantages of greater natural resources and abundant cheap labour, small nations like Singapore are easier to manage. That is an advantage we should exploit.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Anyway, Spinsugar brings up a valid point. Micromanagement is easy when you have a small population to legislator ratio.
The differences between those on the left and the right of the political divide will never be resolved and some might say, are absolutely necessary for a vibrant democracy. Obviously I stand to the right of you. Between freedom and prosperity, I choose prosperity. Rather than having the right to speak my mind, I would rather have the right to education, jobs and to live in safety without fear of crime. To me, the most important human right is not freeedom of speech, but happiness, prosperity and progress.
The government has brought Singapore 40 years of prosperity and progress. Despite a vocal opposing minority, the fact that the people of Singapore have chosen the same government in free elections all these years indicate that the majority are happy with it.
The Chinese government is just as authoritarian as ever, but it has lifted millions out of poverty (though many more still remain deeply impoverished). The Philippines has democracy for many years, but its citizens are no better economically.
Why does the Opposition not do better at the polls? Why is CSJ never successful with his talk about freedom of speech and democracy? Because they have missed the plot. To borrow the words of a successful politician, what matters MOST is not freedom of speech, IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID! -
Of course they scored well, they legalized it.
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I remember about corruption in Indonesia preventing foreign investors from planting their projects in Indonesia.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Whilst big nations may have advantages of greater natural resources and abundant cheap labour, small nations like Singapore are easier to manage. That is an advantage we should exploit.
The differences between those on the left and the right of the political divide will never be resolved and some might say, are absolutely necessary for a vibrant democracy. Obviously I stand to the right of you. Between freedom and prosperity, I choose prosperity. Rather than having the right to speak my mind, I would rather have the right to education, jobs and to live in safety without fear of crime. To me, the most important human right is not freeedom of speech, but happiness, prosperity and progress.
The government has brought Singapore 40 years of prosperity and progress. Despite a vocal opposing minority, the fact that the people of Singapore have chosen the same government in free elections all these years indicate that the majority are happy with it.
The Chinese government is just as authoritarian as ever, but it has lifted millions out of poverty (though many more still remain deeply impoverished). The Philippines has democracy for many years, but its citizens are no better economically.
Why does the Opposition not do better at the polls? Why is CSJ never successful with his talk about freedom of speech and democracy? Because they have missed the plot. To borrow the words of a successful politician, what matters MOST is not freedom of speech, IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID! -
Those are essentials. However, there is a need for a balanced form of democracy as well.Originally posted by oxford mushroom:Whilst big nations may have advantages of greater natural resources and abundant cheap labour, small nations like Singapore are easier to manage. That is an advantage we should exploit.
The differences between those on the left and the right of the political divide will never be resolved and some might say, are absolutely necessary for a vibrant democracy. Obviously I stand to the right of you. Between freedom and prosperity, I choose prosperity. Rather than having the right to speak my mind, I would rather have the right to education, jobs and to live in safety without fear of crime. To me, the most important human right is not freeedom of speech, but happiness, prosperity and progress.
The government has brought Singapore 40 years of prosperity and progress. Despite a vocal opposing minority, the fact that the people of Singapore have chosen the same government in free elections all these years indicate that the majority are happy with it.
The Chinese government is just as authoritarian as ever, but it has lifted millions out of poverty (though many more still remain deeply impoverished). The Philippines has democracy for many years, but its citizens are no better economically.
Why does the Opposition not do better at the polls? Why is CSJ never successful with his talk about freedom of speech and democracy? Because they have missed the plot. To borrow the words of a successful politician, what matters MOST is not freedom of speech, IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
When people are clothed, housed, educated and fed, self-actualisation is the next natural progression. The shift of focus from a fat wallet to a full set of principles that each individual has more than just a passing awareness of, will set in.
A real strong nation has space for both sides of the coin. And as you stand on the right of the spectrum, there must be someone standing on the left to balance things out. -
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=224692Originally posted by oxford mushroom:... Why does the Opposition not do better at the polls? Why is CSJ never successful with his talk about freedom of speech and democracy? Because they have missed the plot. To borrow the words of a successful politician, what matters MOST is not freedom of speech, IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID! -
Do u know wat is legalised corruption?
JUst like brought Optus at S$ 7 bill we pay S$14 billion?
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Originally posted by oxford mushroom:
You have now exposed yourself totally as a Government lackey - despite your initial cowardly claim of objecting to the methods and policies of the Singapore Government - and after all the whipping received have decided to stand clearly in the spotlight on the side of the Singapore Government, and give up all forms of devious deception.
Whilst big nations may have advantages of greater natural resources and abundant cheap labour, small nations like Singapore are easier to manage. That is an advantage we should exploit.
Yes, Singapore is a small nation and easier to manage - by draconian means - and you will take advantage of this to further exploit it.
What kind of education have your received to qualify a PhD ? And of all place from Oxford to believe that Democracy and human rights are not the way forward ?
Now we can probably understand the reasons for a dearth of talent in Singapore, when an educated person will prefer to sacrifice the soul of idealism in exchange for material gains.
The differences between those on the left and the right of the political divide will never be resolved and some might say, are absolutely necessary for a vibrant democracy. Obviously I stand to the right of you. Between freedom and prosperity, I choose prosperity. Rather than having the right to speak my mind, I would rather have the right to education, jobs and to live in safety without fear of crime. To me, the most important human right is not freeedom of speech, but happiness, prosperity and progress.
Why should the Singapore Government complain about a dearth of creative talent in 4.5 million Singaporeans, when none seems to be a problem in any other similar size cities in Europe and USA ?
Even Tel Aviv with a smaller population can boast more artistic, cultural and scientific creativity and intelligence than Singapore - despite the ever imminent threats of sudden death and destruction.
What majority are you talking about when more then half the population do not get to vote, and the incumbent ruling political party will unashamedly declare a "Walk-over" ?
The government has brought Singapore 40 years of prosperity and progress. Despite a vocal opposing minority, the fact that the people of Singapore have chosen the same government in free elections all these years indicate that the majority are happy with it.
The actual numbers of Singaporeans participating in the last general election had amounted to 1,222,884 persons from a population of 4.5 million - this can hardly form the majority of Singaporeans casting their votes in support of this Government ?
Even the recent Thai General Election was declared null-and-void by the revered King of Thailand, when the opposition parties boycotted the election, and most Thais in the urban areas declined to participate.
40 years of progress and prosperity ?
Who is the biggest beneficiary of this progress and properity - and able to legislate laws that pay out million dollar salaries ?
Surely not the Singapore Citizens, who have paid a high price over the years, only to face retirement with a shrunken CPF that has largely been sucked dry by the artificially overpriced public housing.
Why does the Korean economy remained vibrant despite its liberal democracy and tolerance towards public demonstrations ?
The Chinese government is just as authoritarian as ever, but it has lifted millions out of poverty (though many more still remain deeply impoverished). The Philippines has democracy for many years, but its citizens are no better economically.
Why are most of the ex-Soviet satellites states now prospering after abandoning harsh rule of State Apparatus Control ?
Why was there total economic collapse in the Soviet Group despite decades of firm authoritarian rule under te Communist System ?
Why are the economies of the African Continent continue to be abject failures despite authoritarianism and international fundings ?
Is economic vibrancy the product of ethnic genetic talents and abilities, or a product of political systems ?
It is plain foolish to believe that the continued authoritarianism will continue to allow prosperity and progress to exist, when the future is to be dictated by the clash of competing creativities and intelligence.
The Koreans have abandoned their old way of firm authority under a single leadership figure, and they are none the worse.
Their economy has blossomed and their industries are able to produce more world beating products and renown household brand names.
Can Singapore ever hope to be industrially innovative that can be comparable to the Koreans ?
Are you stupid, or simply blind to the way politics have been conducted in Singapore ?
Why does the Opposition not do better at the polls? Why is CSJ never successful with his talk about freedom of speech and democracy? Because they have missed the plot. To borrow the words of a successful politician, what matters MOST is not freedom of speech, IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
If the Conservative Party had adopted the same manner in conducting politics as the Singapore Ruling Party, it would not have lost the election that allowed the Labour Party to entrenched PM Blair through the last ten years.
If the Conservative Party had been able to have total control of the British press and broadcast media, it would have starved the Labor and Liberal Parties of any means of reaching out to the UK population.
PM Blair would have remained as obscure as CSJ, and the other political personalities from the Alternative Political Parties in Singapore.
Is it merely the economy that kept the incumbent Ruling Political Party to continue as the Singapore Government, or plain gutter politics and sly political gerrymeandering with population ratios adjustments to election boundaries, and total monopoly of all communication media ?
Can mushrooms hope to know anything about politics ?
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Has the learned mush-head from Oxford been floored by a chimpanzee and prefer to remain voiceless ?
What happened to the conceited and opinionated mush-head ?
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Oxhead has opinions? You gotta be kidding, all he ever does is cut and paste news report, when confronted by forumners with superior logic, he just side track and beat around the bush. Frankly, he does not have any brains to think for himself, he just takes what the monarchy dish out to him and place it on a pedestal to worship. He thinks that since they are all smart elites, he is not equivalent to them in IQ, so he will take anything from them.Originally posted by Atobe:Has the learned mush-head from Oxford been floored by a chimpanzee and prefer to remain voiceless ?
What happened to the conceited and opinionated mush-head ?
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+1Originally posted by maurizio13:Oxhead has opinions? You gotta be kidding, all he ever does is cut and paste news report, when confronted by forumners with superior logic, he just side track and beat around the bush. Frankly, he does not have any brains to think for himself, he just takes what the monarchy dish out to him and place it on a pedestal to worship. He thinks that since they are all smart elites, he is not equivalent to them in IQ, so he will take anything from them.