Mandarin speaking people sucks!!!
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Like I said, she's just a kid.Originally posted by Hogzilla:In response to the potato's article, I think he / she only saw how teenagers behave and it should never be any way connected to a language superority. Btw, the issue of language superority is outdated. If you talk about language superority with those into lingulistic, I think you are going to be a laughing stock.
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Singlish is cool. Cooler than English and Mandarin.
Singaporeans, don't you feel comfortable speaking with the "lah"s and "lor"s? Of course, Singlish isn't just not about "lah"s and "lor"s, it's the identity and uniquely Singaporean signature.
The "invention" of Singlish as a dialect shows the world the integration of the multi-racial society in Singapore. Any attempt to diminish it shall be seen as an attempt to undermine the unity of SIngapore's multi-racial society.
So we should speak proper English to those who wants us to speak proper English. When we are talking among Singaporean, Singlish, please.
And have you noticed that Singlish is something that sprung up naturally amongst ourselves? It's not a government-run national unity campaign or program.
Let's think further, why would they want to limit Singlish, but at the same time, try to impose their own brand of national campaigns? The conspiracy theorist inside me thinks "Aiyah, gahment want to control everything, because they scared of what they cannot control mah" -
Next time, someone blasts their music from their phones, you should go up to them and say:
Poor thing, cannot afford to buy yourself earphones? Tsk Tsk. -
Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:
hong kongers speak mandrin? hai mai ah? yao moh gao chor?
Go Chinese cities like Taipei,HK,Beijing etc observe the eloquence of the language.
Chinese languages are a really beautiful language, be it official ones or dialects.
Although i am a Singaporean, english educated and grew up in english speaking family. I am definately proud to be a Chinese and i would never do anything to degrade Chinese langauge or culture. taipei = eloquent mandrin? one look at president "ah baaaaan" and you know somewhere along the way the taiwanese competency in proper mandrin screwed up big time -
I think the ban dialect is lan lan one. When Singaporeans are divided by race, I'm sure that no one hopes to divide the Chinese population by differentiate it with dialect groups.Originally posted by dragg:not just chinese, many cant even speak their own dialects.
knn, what stupid speak english champaign. the banning of dialect programs on tv should be lifted.
it is obviously not working.
But I would love to see more actions bt civilian organizatiion to promote dialect. -
I bet the letter writing kid is someone who would fail to understand the richness of Singapore Theatre, where language and patois are equally promoted and mixed.
This is the era of cross-disciplines, she could very well be an anachronism if she doesn't change her ways. -
ah biannn speaks with a strong hokkien accent, nothing wrong his standard of mandarin i am sure.Originally posted by vito_corleone:hong kongers speak mandrin? hai mai ah? yao moh gao chor? taipei = eloquent mandrin? one look at president "ah baaaaan" and you know somewhere along the way the taiwanese messed up their competency of proper mandrin -
In our Singaporean money loving environment, money speaks.
If I were a millionaire, and i speak Singlish, people will still lick my boots regardless.
Has Singaporeans value langauges like dollars and cents?
I just could'nt understand why a formal language like cantonese, official language of HK could be banned in Singapore? What rule is this? 80 million people worldwide are cantonese speaking, mainly the chinese diaspora.
If one day cantonese or malay language would become an economic power, would PAPpies lead a speak-malay campaign and butter-up to malaysia or indonesia? -
chinese is made up of many different dialects like mandarin,cantonese,hokkien,teocheow...etc.Originally posted by vito_corleone:hong kongers speak mandrin? hai mai ah? yao moh gao chor? taipei = eloquent mandrin? one look at president "ah baaaaan" and you know somewhere along the way the taiwanese competency in proper mandrin screwed up big time
and yes hongkongers are now picking up mandarin and some are indeed pretty good
as for taiwan...i have nothing to say as i know nothing about that place... -
You can't expect Taiwanese to be native speakers of Mandarin, considering that they are Hokkien by descent and their native language is Minnanese.Originally posted by dragg:ah biannn speaks with a strong hokkien accent, nothing wrong his standard of mandarin i am sure.
Mandarin as a common language, is a product of the Commies when they unified China in 1949. -
You're right. The Chinese diaspora is mainly Cantonese and Hokkien speaking.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:In our Singaporean money loving environment, money speaks.
If I were a millionaire, and i speak Singlish, people will still lick my boots regardless.
Has Singaporeans value langauges like dollars and cents?
I just could'nt understand why a formal language like cantonese, official language of HK could be banned in Singapore? What rule is this? 80 million people worldwide are cantonese speaking, mainly the chinese diaspora.
If one day cantonese or malay language would become an economic power, would PAPpies lead a speak-malay campaign and butter-up to malaysia or indonesia?
Somewhere along the line, pragmatism made our officials lazy, therefore they stuck to Mandarin.
Did you know that in Australia, government departments have helplines in Cantonese, Vietnamese and what not.. besides Mandarin.
When I was staying there for a while, the level of dialects being spoken was much higher, and people actually bother to spend CNY together for longer periods of time, not like SG where more and more people choose to just take a holiday. -
i wonder who came up with the great idea to ban cantonese on local tvs.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:In our Singaporean money loving environment, money speaks.
If I were a millionaire, and i speak Singlish, people will still lick my boots regardless.
Has Singaporeans value langauges like dollars and cents?
I just could'nt understand why a formal language like cantonese, official language of HK could be banned in Singapore? What rule is this? 80 million people worldwide are cantonese speaking, mainly the chinese diaspora.
If one day cantonese or malay language would become an economic power, would PAPpies lead a speak-malay campaign and butter-up to malaysia or indonesia? -
Of course.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:In our Singaporean money loving environment, money speaks.
If I were a millionaire, and i speak Singlish, people will still lick my boots regardless.
Has Singaporeans value langauges like dollars and cents?
I just could'nt understand why a formal language like cantonese, official language of HK could be banned in Singapore? What rule is this? 80 million people worldwide are cantonese speaking, mainly the chinese diaspora.
If one day cantonese or malay language would become an economic power, would PAPpies lead a speak-malay campaign and butter-up to malaysia or indonesia? -
there is still cable channel 48...Originally posted by dragg:i wonder who came up with the great idea to ban cantonese on local tvs.
or....this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPUMgHHTnYc -
dun liddat lehOriginally posted by dragg:not just chinese, many cant even speak their own dialects.
knn, what stupid speak english champaign. the banning of dialect programs on tv should be lifted.
it is obviously not working.
i'm tryin very hard to learn hokkien teochew n cantonese liao -
ch 48 is in cantonese?Originally posted by udontknowme:
arent the programs all dubbed? -
I still regret not being able to speak Cantonese, which is my dialect. Although I can speak Hokkien pretty well.
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its a hongkong channel...how on earth can they dub EVERYTHING????Originally posted by dragg:ch 48 is in cantonese?
arent the programs all dubbed?
i dont think they can dub EVERYTHING...
~~~TVB~~~
if they really dubbed it...
i have nothing to say -
so is it dubbed or not?Originally posted by udontknowme:its a hongkong channel...how on earth can they dub EVERYTHING????
i dont think they can dub EVERYTHING...
~~~TVB~~~
if they really dubbed it... i have nothing to say -
Dear, i would prefer in govt encouraging chinese language, but its banning dialects on media we are talking about. Isn't banning a bit extreme?Originally posted by Hogzilla:I think the ban dialect is lan lan one. When Singaporeans are divided by race, I'm sure that no one hopes to divide the Chinese population by differentiate it with dialect groups.
But I would love to see more actions bt civilian organizatiion to promote dialect.
I went to shanghai 2yrs ago, yeah, china, communist and stuff... then i on the TV to watch their boring TV shows,
omg! i saw this drama show with chinese speaking in a language i think is shanghainese.. although dialects are not encouraged, they are certainly not banned. -
i dont know cos im not in singapore...Originally posted by dragg:so is it dubbed or not?
but i asked someone the other day....according to that person...its not....
and for those who understand canto...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yrh8SeRv6Bc&mode=related&search=
(sorry i cant find one with eng/chi subtitles...and since the only dialect i can understand properly is canto...thats what i can provide...)kekeke... -
will dialects really divide the chinese population? i seriously doubt so.Originally posted by Hogzilla:I think the ban dialect is lan lan one. When Singaporeans are divided by race, I'm sure that no one hopes to divide the Chinese population by differentiate it with dialect groups.
But I would love to see more actions bt civilian organizatiion to promote dialect.
as far as i remember there were cantonese dramas on TVs and singaporeans of all dialects enjoyed it. everytime a cantonese drama was running most people would be home. of course i dont expect people to be as enthusiatic now.
that was how i started to learn cantonese and i love it!!!
i am a hokkien btw. -
True, for the first statement. Partially true about the latter.Originally posted by LazerLordz:You can't expect Taiwanese to be native speakers of Mandarin, considering that they are Hokkien by descent and their native language is Minnanese.
Mandarin as a common language, is a product of the Commies when they unified China in 1949.
They actually want to use Cantonese as the offical dialect one, but the Mandarin-dialect (yes, mandarin is a dialect. Mandarin is also a phrase used to call the Manchurian officals. You can check the dictionary, I'm sure it can provide more insights) speaking population is too big liao. Then they use mandarin as offical dialect lor. In this case, (population) size does matters. -
And when i MAJOR castatrophy like SARS came too Singapore,
Govt would use dialects to communicate in main-stream media to reach out to all Singaporeans, then after SARS fiasco ended,
Dialects are dumped aside again.
Just what is the meaning of these? Can someone tell me? -
Meaning they know that some people cannot understand mandarin and english, and they dont want these people to get sars and run around doctor hopping because to be unable to understand both mandarin and english you must have been living under a rock your whole life.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:And when i MAJOR castatrophy like SARS came too Singapore,
Govt would use dialects to communicate in main-stream media to reach out to all Singaporeans, then after SARS fiasco ended,
Dialects are dumped aside again.
Just what is the meaning of these? Can someone tell me? -
Well, the founding father of China, Mr Sun Yat Sun was a cantonese. Much of the chinese diaspora overseas were rich and were cantonese too. they were much involved in donations and war efforts.Originally posted by Hogzilla:True, for the first statement. Partially true about the latter.
They actually want to use Cantonese as the offical dialect one, but the Mandarin-dialect (yes, mandarin is a dialect. Mandarin is also a phrase used to call the Manchurian officals. You can check the dictionary, I'm sure it can provide more insights) speaking population is too big liao. Then they use mandarin as offical dialect lor. In this case, (population) size does matters.
Definately cantonese was taken into consideration. But at last mandarin won over because mandarin was the "guan hua" in Beijing up north.
Cantonese is known as "yue" language. Many eras ago, GuangDong, GuanXi and Vietnam was an independent kingdom, the "Yue" State.
Han Chinese came and conquered these lands, subsequently, through much sinicsation. Thats why cantonese is known as "yue yu" and vietnam is known as "yue nan". If u were to disect and observe this 2 languages, cantonese and vietnamese, u will find similarities. like chinese and japanese.