Authoritarian governance - not the best way?
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When a things took a downturn, will you be boasting about "property and stock market are bullish, job market is recovering and inflation is under control."?Originally posted by Gazelle:Dont worry, Singapore is doing great and there will be load of new opportunities coming up in the service industry for both locals and foreigners. government is doing the right move to remove subsidize for PR and provide more financial assistant for the needy and old. property and stock market are bullish, job market is recovering and inflation is under control.
Haizzz~~
'You see things as they are and ask, "Why?" I dream things as they never were and ask, "Why not?"
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Typical elitist thought. You see the floats on the surface but you never see what is below it. Right, Gary?Originally posted by Gazelle:Dont worry, Singapore is doing great and there will be load of new opportunities coming up in the service industry for both locals and foreigners. government is doing the right move to remove subsidize for PR and provide more financial assistant for the needy and old. property and stock market are bullish, job market is recovering and inflation is under control.
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Whatever goes up will have to come down, that is the natural cycle of economic. What I am highlighting here is the at the moment Singapore economy is doing well and over the next 4 to 5 years we will be ok.Originally posted by Hogzilla:When a things took a downturn, will you be boasting about "property and stock market are bullish, job market is recovering and inflation is under control."?
Haizzz~~
'You see things as they are and ask, "Why?" I dream things as they never were and ask, "Why not?"
--George Bernard Shaw
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Is that some excepts from some government releases? Sounds kinda rosy there. Oops I forgot, you probably don't care how the rest of the populace is feeling. As long as you receive your own fat bonus. Suffering? What's that?Originally posted by Gazelle:Dont worry, Singapore is doing great and there will be load of new opportunities coming up in the service industry for both locals and foreigners. government is doing the right move to remove subsidize for PR and provide more financial assistant for the needy and old. property and stock market are bullish, job market is recovering and inflation is under control.
regards,
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Did Elindra told you that my name is gary? haha...she is such a bit.chOriginally posted by fymk:Typical elitist thought. You see the floats on the surface but you never see what is below it. Right, Gary? -
Hey, please wake up, there is nothing this or any government will do for you if you continue to be so pessimistic about the future. If you cant see what people are seeing right now you are just gonna miss the boat.Originally posted by bangkokboy:Is that some excepts from some government releases? Sounds kinda rosy there. Oops I forgot, you probably don't care how the rest of the populace is feeling. As long as you receive your own fat bonus. Suffering? What's that?
regards,
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She didn't tell me anything. Don't even presume to assume.Originally posted by Gazelle:Did Elindra told you that my name is gary? haha...she is such a bit.ch -
Originally posted by Gazelle:
Orh, nvm.
Whatever goes up will have to come down, that is the natural cycle of economic. What I am highlighting here is the at the moment Singapore economy is doing well and over the next 4 to 5 years we will be ok.
This is not dream!!
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig, you get dirty; and besides, the pig likes it."
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I wonder who said this?Originally posted by fymk:She didn't tell me anything. Don't even presume to assume.
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There is only 1 person here that knows my name, that is Elindra.Originally posted by fymk:She didn't tell me anything. Don't even presume to assume. -
We will see you sing a different tune when you lose everything and end up at the bottom of the garbage heap - ignored and uncared for . Right now you can sing a pretty tune but when you lose everything - you will realise how others feel.Originally posted by Gazelle:Hey, please wake up, there is nothing this or any government will do for you if you continue to be so pessimistic about the future. If you cant see what people are seeing right now you are just gonna miss the boat. -
Hey please wake up yourself. I am not going to ask the damn government to help me. If I am I will continue staying in Singapore ok? I will help myself. You can continue living in your own anti-social world and start condemning and making enemies out of everyone. But truth is you probably don't even give a damn.Originally posted by Gazelle:Hey, please wake up, there is nothing this or any government will do for you if you continue to be so pessimistic about the future. If you cant see what people are seeing right now you are just gonna miss the boat.
I suggest that you scroll through this topic and see for yourself the points that I have raised that you have NOT answered me.
AGAIN. The government does not need to do anything for me, infact I wish they will release my CPF right here right now so I can help plan my own future! -
You can ask her . She didn't tell me anything.Originally posted by Gazelle:There is only 1 person here that knows my name, that is Elindra.
There are more than one way to float a rat up in the water.
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1)Ermmm....Since when I make comparison between interest rate and inflation rate? Don't be duff!!! You make the comparison then draw me into it. You made a challenge to all your post as being accurate, you claimed that inflation is less than 2.5% a year, I just pointed out to you that inflation was 2.64% a year.Originally posted by Gazelle:1) Please do some reading on how singapore government determine the CPF interest rate and its relation to bank interest rate and inflation.
2) For CPF, if you are out of job, you dont have to pay. They will not come after you. For saving insurance policy, you need to continue your monthly pay regardless if you have money or job. If you terminate before maturity, BANG!! you pay penalty.
3) To invest or not, that is up to individual. Even if you do nothing, you are still get the 2.5%.
2)Since you say job is applenty if you are willing to work. There should be no problems with getting a job to make payments to the insurance policy. So insurance works alot like our CPF. Then they should pay insurance rates instead of 2.5% p.a.
3)Yes to invest or not to invest is up to the individual, the less educated who don't know how to use the funds will be exploited by the CPF board. The CPF board will profit the difference between 3.75% and 2.5%, a profit margin of 50%, I would say it's good business. -
Numerous points you have shot yourself in the foot. I will not point them out now, but please read my post carefully and answer only when you have the answers. Please do not use some rosier-than-real world excerpts from the government releases ok?Originally posted by bangkokboy:2) LOL so you do know about the threats. I am not anti-foreign talent, but that does not make me pro-foreign talent.
3) They have been long gone. I am not comparing wages in such superficial manner my dear friend!! I am asking once again, if a SKILLED, I stress again SKILLED engineer from XYZ country come to singapore asking for <1.6k, how do you think locals can compete!??!?!?!? Any tom, dick or harry manager will know the cheaper the labor the better!
Highly skilled for God's sake! SKILLED LABOR YOU UNDERSTAND? Who ever mentioned about low value added job? Does an IT engineer from India make it a low value added job? -
Nah ...he does it all the time. Don't expect him to answer you logically without those rosy reports. He just doesn't know that a rose bed has thorns beneath it.Originally posted by bangkokboy:Numerous points you have shot yourself in the foot. I will not point them out now, but please read my post carefully and answer only when you have the answers. Please do not use some rosier-than-real world excerpts from the government releases ok? -
Well, it seems that my bed is more thorny than others....Originally posted by fymk:Nah ...he does it all the time. Don't expect him to answer you logically without those rosy reports. He just doesn't know that a rose bed has thorns beneath it. -
Lol, reminds me of that Bon Jovi song, "Bed of Roses" or something like that. Anyway you guys who are coming to Bangkok can just give me a PM about your itinerary, haha I can help you eliminate the boring places.Originally posted by Hogzilla:Well, it seems that my bed is more thorny than others....
Regards,
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Trading within oneself in a service industry is the shifting of wealth from one hand to the other, no new wealth is created.Originally posted by Gazelle:Dont worry, Singapore is doing great and there will be load of new opportunities coming up in the service industry for both locals and foreigners. government is doing the right move to remove subsidize for PR and provide more financial assistant for the needy and old. property and stock market are bullish, job market is recovering and inflation is under control.
A, B, C, D, in a partially closed domestic service economy, A provides manicure, B provides Haircut, C provides massage, D provides cooked food; they didn't produce any goods to trade with external economies, at the end of the day, D still has to buy imported food from external economy.
Economy has still not recovered, look at the COE rates, it has dropped from highs of above $30,000 to lows of below $10,000. Goes to show that most people don't have money to buy cars anymore, especially during december where alot of families want to get new car for the new year.
Stock market bullish doesn't mean anything, what percentage of our stock market funds belong to locals, most probably they belong to people in the USA, because of the recent depreciation in the USD, they are trying to invest in other economies so as to reduce their exposure to USD.
Property market bullish? Do you want to buy any property for the price it cost in 1999?
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Originally posted by Gazelle:
In 4 to 5 years we will be zhong guo cheng, we will be Chinapore!!!
Whatever goes up will have to come down, that is the natural cycle of economic. What I am highlighting here is the [b]at the moment Singapore economy is doing well and over the next 4 to 5 years we will be ok.
This is not dream!! [/b]
Delusion is not a dream!!! -
Yup, he made alot of assumptions about my post, which I didn't even say.Originally posted by Hogzilla:I wonder who said this?
"Assumption is the mother of all fu.ckers"
I think he is delusional. -
Let's leave it as it is. He only answers what he is confident of answering (and winning? Not like we are treating it as a contest)...Originally posted by maurizio13:Yup, he made alot of assumptions about my post, which I didn't even say.
I think he is delusional. -
Well, congratulations to you on your lovely life, because most Singaporeans aren't as lucky.Originally posted by Gazelle:Hey, please wake up, there is nothing this or any government will do for you if you continue to be so pessimistic about the future. If you cant see what people are seeing right now you are just gonna miss the boat.
I wouldn't want to be in your shoes even if someone paid me a million bucks, though.
But once again, grats on your lovely life. Enjoy the view from your well inside a well.
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You are talking about the vocal minority, not the silent 66% majority who voted for the government during the last electionOriginally posted by bangkokboy:Is that some excepts from some government releases? Sounds kinda rosy there. Oops I forgot, you probably don't care how the rest of the populace is feeling. As long as you receive your own fat bonus. Suffering? What's that?
regards,
BKKboy
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Do some reading before you rant...Go read about the 1 millionth tourist from China in today's Straits Times..the opening of the IRs will create lots of jobs for low-skilled citizens. It will be wealthy foreigners who will be paying for them. If locals want to throw their money away at the casinos as well, it's their prerogative. After all, this is a free country..Originally posted by maurizio13:Trading within oneself in a service industry is the shifting of wealth from one hand to the other, no new wealth is created.
A, B, C, D, in a partially closed domestic service economy, A provides manicure, B provides Haircut, C provides massage, D provides cooked food; they didn't produce any goods to trade with external economies, at the end of the day, D still has to buy imported food from external economy.
Economy has still not recovered, look at the COE rates, it has dropped from highs of above $30,000 to lows of below $10,000. Goes to show that most people don't have money to buy cars anymore, especially during december where alot of families want to get new car for the new year.
Stock market bullish doesn't mean anything, what percentage of our stock market funds belong to locals, most probably they belong to people in the USA, because of the recent depreciation in the USD, they are trying to invest in other economies so as to reduce their exposure to USD.
Property market bullish? Do you want to buy any property for the price it cost in 1999?
Job market recovering for FTs, not local Singaporeans.