Downsides of Down under
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Ooh, so there is a chance that lionnoisy is an Aussiephile after all
Here's another one of his downsides:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamer
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2.Sorry.Pl read carefully.ALL i quote are from 3 main paper.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:...
Given your behaviour You have proven yourself to be the most unreliable source on Australia, and the LAST person to ask if one wants to migrate. The people to logically ask would obviously be Singaporeans who have already shifted there.
So,Pl tell me if any news is really bias.Pl show another side
of the story.Share with us here.
I dunt like talking.Pl show real action,facts,or materials.
NO point to accuss me this or that.
Here another story.
3.Decaying dental system 'needs funding', * March 17, 2007--http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21399102-1702,00.htmlA DENTAL health report shows one in five people are foregoing dental treatment because they can't afford it.
The 300-page report, called the National Survey of Adult Oral Health 2004-06, was released by federal Health Minister Tony Abbott at the Australian Dental Congress in Sydney today.
The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare survey concludes that children born after 1970, when fluoridated water became popular, have only half the level of decay the previous generation had developed by the time they were young adults.
The survey of more than 14,500 Australians aged 15-98 years found that just 16 per cent rated their oral health as fair or poor.
Overall, only six per cent had lost all their natural teeth, compared to 14 per cent in the first national oral health survey two decades ago.
And people born between 1970 and 1990 had an average of 4.5 teeth affected by decay, compared more than 24 teeth for those born before 1930.
But Ms Roxon said the report showed that more than a fifth (20.6 per cent) of Australians aged 15 or over "had foregone recommended dental treatment due to cost in the last 12 months".
"Over 40 per cent of the Australian population aged 15 and over had not visited a dentist within the last 12 months," she said.
She added that 11.8 per cent of Australians over 15 had not visited a dentist in five years.
"(And) uninsured people are 1.6 times more likely to have untreated dental decay than insured people, and they are three times more likely to have not visited their dentist in the last five years.
"Despite these worrying figures, all Tony Abbott did today when launching the report is look to the states to fix the problems.
"Once again, he made it clear the Howard Government would not establish a commonwealth dental scheme," Ms Roxon said.
The Australian Dental Association (ADA) said the report showed water fluoridation helped prevent dental decay.
But it said dental waiting lists were too long and commonwealth funding was needed to help the disadvantaged.
"There is a perception that dental treatment is beyond the means of many Australians," ADA president Dr John Matthews said.
"For low income and disadvantaged Australians, the elderly, indigenous and Torres Strait Islander Australians and people living in rural and remote areas, access to basic dental care is poor.
"The ADA is supportive of commonwealth funding for the delivery of care to those Australians in genuine need.
"Waiting lists for the financially disadvantaged are outrageously long - in some cases three years, and the ADA continues to lobby governments to redress this."
He added that there "is a clear link between oral and general health. The needs of all Australians have to be met in this area".
Researcher Professor Gary Slade said the report's results were hard proof fluoridation improved teeth for life.
"These results provide the first evidence within the Australian population that drinking fluoridated water during childhood translates into significantly better dental health in adulthood," Prof Slade said. -
Quoting stories from the papers is one thing.Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.Sorry.Pl read carefully.ALL i quote are from 3 main paper.
So,Pl tell me if any news is really bias.Pl show another side
of the story.Share with us here.
I dunt like talking.Pl show real action,facts,or materials.
NO point to accuss me this or that.
Here another story.
But quoting stories from the papers in pursuit of your clearly self-serving anti-Australian agenda is another.
Nice effort trying to toss sand in the faces of others.
Too bad it didn't work.
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x2.Originally posted by fudgester:Quoting stories from the papers is one thing.
But quoting stories from the papers in pursuit of your clearly self-serving anti-Australian agenda is another.
Nice effort trying to toss sand in the faces of others.
Too bad it didn't work.
+1 before close and ban.
in the words of many football managers, "I didn't see my player foul him in the box"
selective quoting, and self-serving agenda. -
2.Quote must be selective or else i repeat whole newspaper here.Originally posted by LazerLordz:x2.
in the words of many football managers, "I didn't see my player foul him in the box"
selective quoting, and self-serving agenda.
My agenda is open:Expose the little well known issues of Aussie,
the BAD one.
But I am not anti--Ausssie.
How do u assess CSJ,is he anti--SG?Tell me. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.Quote must be selective or else i repeat whole newspaper here.
My agenda is open:Expose the little well known issues of Aussie,
the BAD one.
But I am not anti--Ausssie.
How do u assess CSJ,is he anti--SG?Tell me.
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I just come back n c a lot of posts just 4 the sack of making $.
Pls close it!!!!very sick of it no substance at all!!! -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:
I live in Australia. Ged lives in Australia - Melbourne in fact . So does a couple of forumners . Do you hear us bitching about it?
Just to show other side of Aussie for those think
Aussie is heaven.May be it is ,but i have not appreciated ,yet.
I dunt want u uproot ur family and migrate to Aussie.
Then face various serious problems than the place u used to
,incl water not enough....
Most of us who stay in Australia already know that Australia has its ups and its downs- in fact more ups than downs. We make the best of it, which is a much better life than some of us staying in Singapore.
You never lived in Australia. You just lived in your own small bubble and you want to comment? HAHhaha Jokes on you. It's pathetic. -
If the people in Aus are not happy, they can always write in to the national newspapers and complain... and if it is serious, they can go down on the streets and protest about the government. They also have a choice which government they want.Originally posted by fymk:I live in Australia. Ged lives in Australia - Melbourne in fact . So does a couple of forumners . Do you hear us bitching about it?
Most of us who stay in Australia already know that Australia has its ups and its downs- in fact more ups than downs. We make the best of it, which is a much better life than some of us staying in Singapore.
You never lived in Australia. You just lived in your own small bubble and you want to comment? HAHhaha Jokes on you. It's pathetic.
So many in Singapore are living miserable lives because P*P takes as much of their money as possible and invest in SHIN CORPS and OPTUS but they can do nothing about it.
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Here's my suggestions, why dun u'll be the 1st one to do that??Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:If the people in Aus are not happy, they can always write in to the national newspapers and complain... and if it is serious, they can go down on the streets and protest about the government. They also have a choice which government they want.
So many in Singapore are living miserable lives due to P*P take as much of their money as possible but the can do nothing about it.
And if Aus ppl are not happy about it, they will know how to do it.. -
Right on. One who has only lived his life in Singapore is in no position to offer insight into life in Australia. Noisy lion with no teeth/mane. I lived in Melbourne for 3 years. It wasn't all roses there, but I still had a better life there as a foreigner than here as a citizen.Originally posted by fymk:I live in Australia. Ged lives in Australia - Melbourne in fact . So does a couple of forumners . Do you hear us bitching about it?
Most of us who stay in Australia already know that Australia has its ups and its downs- in fact more ups than downs. We make the best of it, which is a much better life than some of us staying in Singapore.
You never lived in Australia. You just lived in your own small bubble and you want to comment? HAHhaha Jokes on you. It's pathetic.
Food Chain (most advantageous to least advantageous) :
Aussie citizens -> PR/Foreigner in Singapore -> Aussie PR -> Foreigners in Aussie -> Singapore citizens
Needless to say, I aim to move back and be at top of the Food Chain someday. I've some friends who have experienced Aussie life and want to come along as well, and I'll definitely help them if I get there 1st. -
Actually I was bored one time .....and there was a demonstration against War in Iraq in Melbourne prior to Australia sending troops in ....so I join the contingent for fun ......Yelling NO WAR IN IRAQ! . Quite fun actually...I even got a free badge for protesting ....Originally posted by turbo_drift:Here's my suggestions, why dun u'll be the 1st one to do that??
And if Aus ppl are not happy about it, they will know how to do it..
The demonstration is quite noisy but organized. It was in Swanston Street , the police just look on to make sure it did not turn violent because they have a permit to protest. People signing petitions in the crowd and voicing their opinions. Some police officers even mingled with the crowd during the march.
Freedom of expression at its best.
In Singapore , do that and get arrested.... -
In Singapore, do anything funny, gets the arrest punishment.. In other countries like Australia, they obviously wouldn't mind about it..Originally posted by fymk:Actually I was bored one time .....and there was a demonstration against War in Iraq in Melbourne prior to Australia sending troops in ....so I join the contingent for fun ......Yelling NO WAR IN IRAQ! . Quite fun actually...I even got a free badge for protesting ....
The demonstration is quite noisy but organized. It was in Swanston Street , the police just look on to make sure it did not turn violent because they have a permit to protest. People signing petitions in the crowd and voicing their opinions. Some police officers even mingled with the crowd during the march.
In Singapore , do that and get arrested.... -
Good business for the food stores along Swanston Street. After the protests , all of them were filled up with hungry protesters .Originally posted by turbo_drift:In Singapore, do anything funny, gets the arrest punishment.. In other countries like Australia, they obviously wouldn't mind about it..
In Australia , even racists have the right to voice their opinions and the people who hate them have the right to yell at them. I see two sides of the story even though I don't agree with one.
Singapore....very one sided. Everything the government has a final and absolute say .And everything the newspaper tells you is what the government wants to them to tell you. -
surely i would be agreeing with you.. Singapore very one-sided type.. Racist?? Jail la..Originally posted by fymk:Good business for the food stores along Swanston Street. After the protests , all of them were filled up with hungry protesters .
In Australia , even racists have the right to voice their opinions and the people who hate them have the right to yell at them. I see two sides of the story even though I don't not agree with one.
Singapore....very one sided. Everything the government has a say and it is final .And everything the newspaper tells you is what the government wants to them to tell you. -
If they encourage violence , they ought to be jailed. There are laws protecting the rights of speech balanced with the rights of all as equals.Originally posted by turbo_drift:surely i would be agreeing with you.. Singapore very one-sided type.. Racist?? Jail la..
At least they dare state that they are one openly in Australia , just like Pauline Hanson . Bad politically but good in a way because I know that I don't want to be voting for her.
Racism exists everywhere ,even in Singapore. The views are more hidden through jokes, like the poor taste of a video about asking for pork , and degradatory remarks. It is almost underground by standards .
With the openess in Australia , they are well aware of the problems that float upwards in the open . The federal government and state government policies get criticised openly in every way. Things are improved or may just stay stagnant but people have the right of speech . Australia has the same concept with the american version of freedom of speech - don't let it go underground . Once underground, you cannot see the problems that it brings.
Hence they have policies against openly stated issues of potential racism which state that there can be no discrimination against you in employment , they cannot demand that you must be chinese/caucasian/indian/malay etc only to procure a job unless the reason ( and it must be a damn good one) is cleared with Equal Employment Opportunity Commissioner . -
Bringing CSJ into the picture merely makes me laugh.Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.Quote must be selective or else i repeat whole newspaper here.
My agenda is open:Expose the little well known issues of Aussie,
the BAD one.
But I am not anti--Ausssie.
How do u assess CSJ,is he anti--SG?Tell me.
Your agenda is twisted, and frankly, you seem like a person with a chip on your shoulder. The more you carry on, the less people will give two hoots about what you have to say.
You are trying to insult and denigrate a country which I have family in.
People do not make decisions based on a one-sided thread. They will do their own homework, and have no need for your Pol-like qualities.Go and read Ben Jonson if you do not know what a Pol is. -
if down under is full of 'Downside' why do singaporeans or others wanted to migrate to aus ??
I wander ??
Or is it that DIMA has rejected TC applications of 136 or other sub-classes, that's why this tread is started ...
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Sorry I am a perfectionist.I cant accept a first world country
come with serious corruptions,drugs/alochloic problems,gangsters,
killings on the street,poor management of public funds.
But it seems Aussie get them All!!
We all know the good of western first world countries.
I just try to understand the other sides of Aussie which is
the nearest western country and most popular nest stop of Sporeans .
My first target readers are would be emigrants,incl
myself.Life is very hard to tell,isnt it?
I am not planning to leave,yet.
But it take time to get the info and WHOLE PICTURE.
Not when u are rushing then u do your home work.
If so,you will make a mistake .
2.Overall benefits
We need to balance the overall benefits of each policy.
Education
Eg.Many say education in Aussie is good.
But how we assess the impact of 8000 teachers leaving Aussie annually?
Pl note they left the country ,not resign.
Why did they leave?Are there enough NEW techers to fill their posts?
How many return to Aussie?
3.CORRUPTION in Aussie--like 3rd world country?
U never think of this problem.Pl do some work.
Dunt trust me.Do u think the retired judge lied to promote his books?
IfVICTORIA'S police force is riddled with "deep-seated and continuing corruption"
,how do u think other civil servants in Aussie?
Confronting corruption,Thursday, January 11, 2007,Gotcha with Gary Hughes
CORRUPTION IS THE ROOT OF MOST PROBLEMS,IF NOT ALL.
It may be the opposition parties tactics to blacken the name of
ruling party.But it take some time of the culture of corruption
to be deep rooted!!
I think so many problems in Aussie defense caused by corruption.
4.Problems in Aussie Defense
Again ,I cant understand why there are so many problems.
RAN is so short of man power that if u join them,u will get PR!!
They paid high price for Vietnam heli but now have to scarp all!
It take 10 years to ungrade M113 APC and still in progress!!
The above are few examples.
5.Gangsters rule the streetstogether with corrupted polices
Witness were gunned down the night before testify
against CORRUPTED POLICE.Secret Witness betrayed by police.
Who dare to testify against police and secret socity??
Police confidentail file were possessed by gangsters.
End of witness couples who were given promises by police to change
identities but later police withdraw their promise.
Deadly game: The funeral of(Aussie) police informer Terrence Hodson and his wife Christine, who were murdered shortly before he was to give evidence in a police corruption case.
The worst is the Court help to kill the witness::Once the case is finished, court files are open to the public more often than not, even if the files contain the bank statements, financial records, medical information, birthdates and addresses that witnesses produced in court.
This is the price of freedom of information,democracy etc.
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Sorry, I am a realist.Originally posted by lionnoisy:Sorry I am a perfectionist.I cant accept a first world country
come with serious corruptions,drugs/alochloic problems,gangsters,
killings on the street,poor management of public funds.
But it seems Aussie get them All!!
I can't accept a fellow Singaporean who would choose to blatantly criticise the countries of others for the so-called purpose of enlightening his fellow countrymen. If Singapore is a first world country, then your behaviour is the exact antithesis of how a first-class citizen of the world should behave.
Before you start criticising the houses of others, it would do well for you to check whether your own house is in order. Before you start slugging Australia, it would do well for you to look carefully at our own country and ask yourself whether it is perfect.
After all, you call yourself a perfectionist. So until you have proven without any doubt that our homeland of Singapore is absolutely perfect, it is not within your right to be criticising the countries of others.
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What do you gain? Are you paid by those anti-immigration parties in Australia to ensure that foreign immigration stays low?Originally posted by lionnoisy:Sorry I am a perfectionist.I cant accept a first world country
come with serious corruptions,drugs/alochloic problems,gangsters,
killings on the street,poor management of public funds.
But it seems Aussie get them All!!
We all know the good of western first world countries.
I just try to understand the other sides of Aussie which is
the nearest western country and most popular nest stop of Sporeans .
Let me tell you, we are not perfect either, so don't bother staying on your high-horse. Since you say you are Singaporean, why don't you start a thread to tell potential migrants to think carefully before they come here to work or settle? Oh I forgot, you evidently are not well-travelled enough to realise that Singapore's reality IS NOT painted by that 80 cents of crap that is delivered to your doorstep. -
Now this is really fresh.Originally posted by lionnoisy:Sorry I am a perfectionist.I cant accept a first world country
come with serious corruptions,drugs/alochloic problems,gangsters,
killings on the street,poor management of public funds.
But it seems Aussie get them All!!
We all know the good of western first world countries.
I just try to understand the other sides of Aussie which is
the nearest western country and most popular nest stop of Sporeans .
My first target readers are would be emigrants,incl
myself.Life is very hard to tell,isnt it?
I am not planning to leave,yet.
But it take time to get the info and WHOLE PICTURE.
Not when u are rushing then u do your home work.
If so,you will make a mistake .
Yadda, yadda, yadda.......
He doesn't put spaces after commas, no double spaces after full stops, paragraphing's all over the place like a dog's breakfast, capitals in inappropripriate spots, but he's a perfectionist.
Our friend here should first learn to read before trying to play Uncle Walter. Maybe that's why he can't get into Oz. -
My, my, my. Are you supposed to be Woodward, or are you supposed to be Bernstein?Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.Quote must be selective or else i repeat whole newspaper here.
My agenda is open:Expose the little well known issues of Aussie,
the BAD one.
But I am not anti--Ausssie.
How do u assess CSJ,is he anti--SG?Tell me.
Tell me, little Mr. Aussiegate, where do these "little well known" (I assume you would have written "little-known" if you could write proper English) issues come from?
Oh, hold on - all your material's from the newspapers, isn't it? If it's there for everyone to read, how can it be "little well known"?
Don't go busting a gut trying to convince anybody of anything about Australia. The tripe you claim as "little well known" is being read by more than 100,000 people on a daily basis (and guess how many of them are worried by it? ), so that in itself leaves you looking pretty retarded. You'd best start by convincing people that you have the intellectial capacity to pick your nose without getting a nosebleed. -
I think with his sort of capacity to toot his trumpet, Leland would have left and upped a long while early.Originally posted by Gedanken:My, my, my. Are you supposed to be Woodward, or are you supposed to be Bernstein?
Tell me, little Mr. Aussiegate, where do these "little well known" (I assume you would have written "little-known" if you could write proper English) issues come from?
Oh, hold on - all your material's from the newspapers, isn't it? If it's there for everyone to read, how can it be "little well known"?
Don't go busting a gut trying to convince anybody of anything about Australia. The tripe you claim as "little well known" is being read by more than 100,000 people on a daily basis (and guess how many of them are worried by it? ), so that in itself leaves you looking pretty retarded. You'd best start by convincing people that you have the intellectial capacity to pick your nose without getting a nosebleed. -
on a personal note, i received the approval for my Aussie PR application early last week. i will actually get my `PR stamp' on my passport
at the high comm tomorrow.
i will `activate my PR' in the next 3 months since I am given till Dec to make my `maiden trip' as a PR. will spend abt 2 weeks there to check out melbourne and adelaide, my city of choice (any tips and guidance from mates out there like fmyk and others who's livng there already for newbie like me is appreciated. pls pm me)
i actually have mixed feeling abt the whole thing, but will give myself the next 6-12mths to `make my move permanently', if i decide to....
i agree with the remarks made in previous posts tt it's how best u want to make your life to be in any place...no place is perfect.
right now, i just have to make the best out of living in sinkapore
