Downsides of Down under
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U stay in any country and if find it happy.Pl share here.
U have to call ur fren and relatives so they can excited by ur voices.
Not by e mail.
2.Do u think my target readers are people staying in Aussie?
Of course not.So i just want to tell little facts to people
not staying there/not familiar Aussie.
But trust me,u may not know where u stay very well.
3.I opened a thread to ask u guys how good is Aussie.
Until it was closed few days later,no good points raised.
4.I am telling facts here.Not anti--Aussie.
U guys welcome to expose the other side of SG here.
Again,If i am anti--Aussie,CSJ must be anti--Spore!!
5.I dunt mind if foreigners discuss SG in their forums.
6.Dunt weigh any country just by demonstartion,freedom of expression.
It come with price ,like Witness dare not testfy in open court.
The benefits of secret witness in SG are no serious gangsters
here for long time....
Water,Water,every where.But not now!!
MELBOURNE move to an unprecedented stage 4 restriction very soon.
Key dam 'dry in a year',John Elder,March 18, 2007MELBOURNE'S main drinking water source, the Thomson dam, could be dry in a year. Without heavy rain, it will reach its "dead water" level in just 12 weeks — not next year as Melbourne Water claims.
Thomson Dam will be 'bone dry in a year'John Elder
Worse, equipment needed to pump the dead water from the dam is not ready, meaning Melbourne could face a water crisis in quality and quantity — with an immediate step up from stage 4 restrictions (set for next month) to stage 5. Meanwhile, nearly half the water coming out of the dam every day washes down the Thomson River to satisfy irrigation contracts.
The claims are made by former Melbourne Water hydrologist Geoff Crapper and engineer Ron Sutherland. Their latest predictions follow their forecasts about the Thomson dam last year, which contradicted Melbourne Water's projections but were later proven true.
"The Government is taking a punt on the weather to solve the crisis Â… while an outrageous amount of water is being wasted every day," Mr Crapper said.
March 18, 2007
Historic station drained of life, * Stuart Rintoul, * March 17, 2007
MELBOURNE's main source of drinking water, the Thomson Dam, could be bone dry in a year. And with the dam's capacity decreasing about 1 per cent a fortnight, it will reach a "dead water" level in 12 weeks, not at the start of next year as Melbourne Water claims.
The multimillion-dollar equipment needed to pump dead water from the dam is not yet in place, meaning Melburnians could have delivery and quality problems, and an immediate move from stage 4 restrictions (set to come in next month) to an unprecedented stage 5.
..."You don't have to be a rocket scientist. The arithmetic is simple. The Thomson was at 42.6 per cent this time last year. At the moment it's 19.4 per cent (as of yesterday). If the weather pattern stays the same, or only slightly improves, the dam that was meant to drought-proof the city will be empty in 12 months' time. This is a worse-case scenario, but it doesn't appear to be in the Government's reckoning," Mr Crapper said.
His claim that the dam will soon hit dead water, or minimum operating level at 13 per cent capacity, is even more compelling: in the past week the average loss rate from the dam has been 734 megalitres a day as storage went from 20 per cent to 19.5 per cent. If this loss rate continues, the dam will be at dead water by late June.
"Even if the loss rate from Thomson Dam is reduced by 200 megalitres per day by cutting back on the gross wastage of flow releases, an average loss rate of 534 megalitres per day would still see pumping from Thomson Dam required before the end of July," he said.
Last week in State Parliament, shadow water minister Louise Asher asked Water Minister John Thwaites if pumps were in place at the Thomson. Mr Thwaites did not answer, but accused Ms Asher of running a scare campaign......."As of today, after a long hot summer and worsening drought, what's left of the creek is a blot on the landcape; rotting fish and water rats for as far as the nose can smell and 70 kilometres of a denuded watercourse," he says...The company has also had to spend $6 million in new infrastructure, including 100km of fencing, where previously the creek provided a natural barrier, and 300km of PVC pipe to pump water from Billabong Creek to tanks and troughs....
The biggest threat to Aussie is not terrorists,but water shortage.
15 March 2007
Melbourne's water storages have dropped a further 0.6% (10,686 million litres) this week to 33.0% (584,435 million litres) full today. Storages are at a level 19.5% lower than at the same time last year when they were 52.5% (930,517 million litres) full.
2006 is the lowest storage in 10 years.2007 in yellow.
Tips for X'mas present for ur Melbourne fren and relatives---water bag. -
Nobody is interested in your tasteless and disgusting comments on water bags as gifts... frankly I think you are a disgrace to your own family. Did they raise you to be such a person?
Frankly, you should can this act and move on...
Moving on, there is no need to even consider what lionnoisy has posted (i myself simply scrolled to the bottom before I caught his useless statement)... there's one thing worth doing:
+1
and another downside of lionnoisy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_biasIn psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias is a tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions and to avoid "counter-attitudinal" new information. It is a type of cognitive bias and represents an error of inductive inference toward confirmation of the hypothesis under study. It refers to the tendency for people to extend critical scrutiny to information which contradicts their prior beliefs and uncritically accept information that is congruent with their prior beliefs.
Finally, I think the best thing to do is simply to ignore him and let him play in here by himself... since he enjoys talking to himself. -
I dunno, man.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Finally, I think the best thing to do is simply to ignore him and let him play in here by himself... since he enjoys talking to himself.
I kinda enjoy laughing at him. -
So far, the Australian-based members here have been able to address all of your rubbish in short order. That in itself should tell you that whatever you're posting here is nothing new to them, and they've come back with points that you've either failed to mention or chosen to hide because they don't support your one-eyed view of Australia. The people who stay here know more about Australia than you do or ever will. Pardon me if I don't *ahem* "trust" you.Originally posted by lionnoisy:But trust me,u may not know where u stay very well. -
ST, you forgot one thing. Our friend states:
The following link may be appropriate:Originally posted by lionnoisy:4.I am telling facts here.Not anti--Aussie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial
The more we go along, the more likely it seems that when lion handed in his application to migrate, the DIMIA clerk took a look, laughed hysterically and said, "You want to WHAT?". -
I think we can recommend him for this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Stupidity_AwardsThe World Stupidity Awards was founded in 2003 and recognizes achievement in ignorance and stupidity during the past year.
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Oh, puh-leeze. Right at the start of this thread I already addressed your initial gripe about Australia, and what did you do? You conveniently ignored my response and went on to post links on other crap, obviously knowing that your first attempt at sh*t-slinging failed miserably. It was obvious that people would be wasting their time telling you anything that didn't fit your "Australia rejected me because I'm too good for it" world view, so don't go being a hypocrite and saying that you invited positive comments now - we all know it's a crock, and you're the only one stupid enough to think that what you say is believable.Originally posted by lionnoisy:3.I opened a thread to ask u guys how good is Aussie.
Until it was closed few days later,no good points raised.
Whew. I'm sure all foreigners will sleep a lot better knowing they have your approval.Originally posted by lionnoisy:5.I dunt mind if foreigners discuss SG in their forums.
Is that a fact, now? Shows how much you know about where you live. Tell you what, I can immediately think of a number of Singaporeans who will disagree with you on this point. Why don't we set up a meeting so you can tell them how un-serious they are as gangsters? I'm certain it will be a lively debate.Originally posted by lionnoisy:6.The benefits of secret witness in SG are no serious gangsters
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I'm hoping that some day, we might be able to nominate him for this:Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:
http://www.darwinawards.com/
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Melbourne's water storages are currently 32.7% full.Water storage data as at 18/3/2007
As a rule of thumb,storage drop 1 % point biweekly.
2.I must apology for the water bag as Xmas gift.
I do hope it is not practical.But I think they really need,
unless The Almight show mercy. -
Ooooh, we're all dying of thirst - it looks like Ethiopia over here.
Excuse me while I go take a shower. -
Originally posted by Gedanken:Ooooh, we're all dying of thirst - it looks like Ethiopia over here.
Excuse me while I go take a shower. -
Last time ( which was last week) I went to melbourne , it didn't look like drought stricken africa to me.
Water 4 restrictions are just telling melbournians to conserve water as much as they really can do so and not to waste it on lawns or cars.
They are negotiating the water sharing policies now on the national level because totally unlike Singapore with a single authoritarian government - Australia is ran by a federal government at a national level ,and the State and Territory governments at jurisdictional levels.
If you do not understand how things are ran in Australia, you don't have a right to comment on the issues of a jurisdictional level or a national level because you would NOT be even able to understand them. -
Originally posted by fymk:
Last time ( which was last week) I went to melbourne , it didn't look like drought stricken africa to me.
Water 4 restrictions are just telling melbournians to conserve water as much as they really can do so and not to waste it on lawns or cars.
They are negotiating the water sharing policies now on the national level because totally unlike Singapore with a single authoritarian government - Australia is ran by a federal government at a national level ,and the State and Territory governments at jurisdictional levels.
[b] If you do not understand how things are ran in Australia, you don't have a right to comment on the issues of a jurisdictional level or a national level because you would NOT be even able to understand them. [/b]
hey brisbane is also in level 4.
A doc on ABC indicate that this the play of El Nino but effect strengthen by global warming.
It is not something that the gov can forcast or prepare for. But Aussie are adhering to gov advise and conserving water. -
Hey TS, no hard feeling. But dont really trust the aussie media, some really blow up the news. Some people used to media to personal gain... (just as in singapore) nothing new after staying here for 3 years.
But if you have the chance, go and look at programmes such as today tonight, current's affair, 60minutes, flashpoint, etc, etc. If i had the chance i will always watch them.
Selective filtering will be the key to pick up real news.
Why dont you review some thing about their centrelink, job market, society structure, activities during free time, places of interest, property market, etc, and understand about the your choices of migrating to Australia. These are more specific to yr needs right. -
2.101% agree with u.Do more home work before migrating,includingOriginally posted by justcooler:Hey TS, no hard feeling. But dont really trust the aussie media, some really blow up the news. Some people used to media to personal gain... (just as in singapore) nothing new after staying here for 3 years.
But if you have the chance, go and look at programmes such as today tonight, current's affair, 60minutes, flashpoint, etc, etc. If i had the chance i will always watch them.
Selective filtering will be the key to pick up real news.
Why dont you review some thing about their centrelink, job market, society structure, activities during free time, places of interest, property market, etc, and understand about the your choices of migrating to Australia. These are more specific to yr needs right.
coming to SG!!
3.All the news i quote may be the bullets fired from opposition party to ruling
party or vice versa.So we have to think...
4.Water storage below 40% is not serious?
Pl tell me how other first world countries react if the water level
drop below 40%.
Water storage drop 1 % biweekly.With lower %,it will drop
faster and come with poor water quality.
Lucky
Auusie already hold a summit meeting on drought of worst in 1000 years!!But what have been concluded and done?
Ths situaion looks not so good for Aussie many cities.
Water storage levels(in % of full capacity)
5.Plan B of Queensland:shipping water from far north Queensland and interstate, and the use of mobile desalination plants.
Location.Dec05.Sep 06.Oct 06.Nov 06.Dec 06.Jan 07.Feb 07
Adelaide 89 57.5 58 57 55.9 56.5 55
Brisbane 35 26.9 25.9 24.87 24.3 22.7 21.7
Canberra 67 47.8 45.9 42.56 40.4 36.7 34.7
Darwin 56 85 ?? 77 ?? 79
Hobart ?? 81 81 ?? 87 85 79
Melbourne 58.1 46 44.1 46 39.8 38.7 36.5
Perth 39 32.3 31.8 29.53 28.7 26 23.6
Sydney 40.5 42.6 40.6 38.6 37.1 34.8 37.1
Melbourne 34.1 in March
6.The level five water restrictions(in Brisbane) were announced as rain fell into south-east Queensland's dam catchment area.
But it's not enough, and the Queensland Water Commission is already talking about level six restrictions, saying they could take effect in September.
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Black line:Storage level of water in state capitals of Aussie as at
Feb 2007.
ACT=Aussie Capital Terrority(Canberra)
Tas=Tasmania
Rule of thumb:Level 5 restriction shall be implemented when storage
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Originally posted by lionnoisy:
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lionnoisy is certianly trying to paint a grimer picture then it really is... we have forumites here who actually live where he says there is a water shortage... and last I checked, none of them asked for a water bag as a gift.
Frankly, I didn't even bother to read his latest posts. And am glad nobody intends to as well.
Just here to:
+1
Don't bother replying to him, except to highlight his DOWNSIDES.
I know one BIG downside of Singapore.
It has people like lionnoisy! a paper lion that makes a lot of useless noise. -
Originally posted by lionnoisy:blah blah blah blah blah
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my English is so poor that with words and figures cant
send the messages out.
Right now about 1,000 farmers in this region(the New South Wales Murray Valley) are out of water and sheep are dying as farm dams empty.--http://www.jennifermarohasy.com/blog/archives/001849.htmlThese farmers began the season with a zero water allocation. This means they knew they would get no water from the licenses they held; from the entitlements they owned...This is the first year since the late 1930s, when the irrigation channels were first dug, that there has been no water for stock.
--January 21, 2007
2.Queensland is prepared to let the dams level drop to 5%,yes five %!!Queensland Premier Peter Beattie:"All the figures we have... show that with only half of the inflows of 2004-05, which was the worst year on record, there will be still more than five per cent water in the dams in December 2008, when the recycled water pipeline will be in full operation. So we're not going to have a problem."
How is the quality of water then in so low level of dams?
Queensland also prepare to ship water from north.So well planned!!
Read it lah.I cant imagne it will happen in first world country.
May Be Aussie can consider ,like London,tow iceberg to drink. -
Huh sorry what did you say in your last post? We didn't quite catch you. Yes, please take some english lessons.Originally posted by lionnoisy:my English is so poor that with words and figures cant
send the messages out- blahblahblahblah
And Mr. Sheep seems fine in Australia:
+1
Also, we've discovered lionnoisy's picture, this is what he looks like!:
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It's pretty clear that lionnoisy doesn't have the slightest idea what goes on down under. It's good to have opinions, but it's not good to spread false, shoddily-researched views.
I didn't even feel the water shortage while living in Melby. This "water shortage" isn't quite as disastrous as lionnoisy makes it out to be. He speaks as if people are dying of dehydration on the streets.
Maybe he's too used to the Singapore media, where such "disgraceful" problems would never have been given such extensive coverage? -
Well said...
As I said, lionnoisy is more akin to a local version of this guy:
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Ah, so he's Comical Wally, is he? Explains it all.
Even if you count Willem Janszoon's foray, Australia's recorded history only goes back 401 years. I suppose that lion's going to claim he personally saw the drought of 1000 years ago. Hey, it's no less credible than any of the piffle he posts here.
*ack* *ack* Need ..... water.......
Excuse me while I go chuck some bubble bath in the tub.
God, I'd hate to be lion - the world must look positively terrifying from his armchair. -
indeed, I just feel kind of sad seeing a person such as him...
I stay in Singapore because I believe in this nation problems and all, and that my calling to make my life and difference is currently still in this place... we don't stay in here because we are terrified of what is taking place around here.
And we certainly don't need people like lionnoisy around to do cyberpoision penning just to prove that Singapore is worth staying in. His style of scaremongering in any case is the wrong way to inform people who think that Australia is heaven, and frankly he's doing it at the Aussie's expense which I find quite discusting.
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Melbourne water storage level in%RHS.2007 in yellow line.
Dec05.Sep 06.Oct 06.Nov 06.Dec 06.Jan 07.Feb 07.. Mar 19 2007
58.1%.... 46.......44.1.... 46...... 39.8.... 38.7....36.5 ..32.7
If the drop in storage follow the past 15 months(1.49% point pm),
Melbourne water will run out in 17 months.
The lower the water level,the faster drop in % and poorer of water quality.
Of course,there may be sudden heavy rain fall like happen in the past.
But how about drought drags?How about warm weather make
water in dams evaporate faster?Some reservoirs polluated?
Aussie 1.2 Annual rainfall - 1985 to 2005
2.Only 60 days' water left, Baillieu warns, * Natasha Robinson, * March 20, 2007MELBOURNE'S main reservoir only holds enough water to supply the city for another 60 days, the Victorian Opposition has claimed as it accused the Government of deceiving the public on the city's water crisis.
Liberal leader Ted Baillieu said yesterday that pumps would be needed within months to reach water in the Thompson reservoir, which is at a record low of 19.6 per cent capacity.
Mr Baillieu accused Water Minister John Thwaites of misleading parliament last week on the minimum operating level of the dam. ...The Government says it has pumps ready at the Thompson dam but the Opposition claims the Government does not have "the most fundamental contingency plan to provide pumps"....
Stage four water restrictions - which prohibit watering lawns and gardens, hosing paved areas and washing cars - are expected to be introduced in May......
