Is Australia a Racist Country?
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I get checked . My caucasian colleague gets checked ...Big W does check on everyone in Melbourne as long as the bag looks like it can hold a huge tin of biscuits.Originally posted by metalizechicken:i have been to australia once...
The shops themselves... well... i would say are racist!?
Me and my frens went into the shop with bagpacks...
then when we leaving that time right... tio bag check for nothing...
all the other groups of my travelling frens all like that
but they didnt check their own people's bag after some observations...
Most of the shops in the mall all like that... -
Why isnt there any yellow or black skin australians protesting against the Lebanese? Are they afraid that they will be beaten up like the middle eastern?Originally posted by fymk:Australian history is similar to American history. Go find out why.
Oh no not a cronulla example again ...anyways my friend's family is asian and living in Cronulla at that time and am still living there - they did not encounter problems during the riots.
Yes you have some neo nazis out there somewhere in the wide wide world. So what? -
Why should anyone protest against any one on the basis of race?Originally posted by Gazelle:Why isnt there any yellow or black skin australians protesting against the Lebanese? Are they afraid that they will be beaten up like the middle eastern?
I do not understand your question.
Middle easterns have their problems
The only time when the chinese community did something was to protest against the White Australia policy which was abolished later. -
Am I right to say that as an immigrant, you can only call yourself an Australian and not an Aussie?
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Is the white australian policy created by white man, targeting at the non white?Originally posted by fymk:Why should anyone protest against any one on the basis of race?
I do not understand your question.
Middle easterns have their problems
The only time when the chinese community did something was to protest against the White Australia policy which was abolished later. -
isn't the name self-explanatory enough?Originally posted by Gazelle:Is the white australian policy created by white man, targeting at the non white?
funny thing is i get mistaken for a local in the US but in singapore i've been thought to be a foreigner, IN MY OWN COUNTRY -
If you do not hold citizenship of Australia - you cannot call yourself aussie or australianOriginally posted by Gazelle:Am I right to say that as an immigrant, you can only call yourself an Australian and not an Aussie?
If you hold citizenship - australian or aussie is fine....got an australian born chinese friend who refers to himself aussie all the time. Never saw the caucasians correcting him at all . -
Almost the same as the bumiputra policy which was the fundamental reason for the split of Singapore from Malaysia except in Australia's history, the whites are colonialists not natives.Originally posted by Gazelle:Is the white australian policy created by white man, targeting at the non white?
White Australia Policy was effectively overturned in 1973 by amendments to the immigration legislation to end racial aspects . In 1975 the Racial Discrimination Act made the use of racial criteria for any official purpose illegal. In 1978, review of immigration law in 1978 that all selection of prospective migrants based on country of origin was entirely removed from official immigration policy.In 1982 , preference to british subjects are removed.
So what problem do you have with an abolished policy , Gazelle?
Before you say anything else, there are already 2 chinese senators who sat or am sitting in the Australian Federal Parliament Upper House. And there are a few MPs of chinese descent who sat or are currently sitting in the lower house of the federal parliament. -
go to any chinese restaurant in tokyo and they treat you like shit the moment you speak chinese. you're better off speaking english or japanese than chinese.
the problem is the staff are chinese too.
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Calling yourself aussie doesnt mean you are being recognized as one. what a shame isnt it?Originally posted by fymk:If you do not hold citizenship of Australia - you cannot call yourself aussie or australian
If you hold citizenship - australian or aussie is fine....got an australian born chinese friend who refers to himself aussie all the time. Never saw the caucasians correcting him at all .
In a multicultural context, Aussie is used by some in Australia as a specific term for Australians of the 'traditional' majority cultural group, that is, "Aussies" is sometimes understood to denote 'Anglo-Celtic' Australians. A parallel can be drawn between the usage of "Aussie" in Australia and Boer in South Africa, both referring to the descendants of early settlers, as opposed to later immigrants. Sometimes this can be interpreted as excluding Australians of a Mediterranean, Asian or Middle Eastern cultural background. The usage of "Aussie" in this context is regarded as offensive by some, as it can denote that some cultural groups are not equally Australian. It may also be used in a derogatory sense by those who do not consider themselves Australian to label those who do. While attempts by schools, politicians and the media to use the term as an all encompassing label for those with Australian citizenship, it has continued to retain common usage as an ethnic descriptor, especially among youth. The terminology received international attention as a result of the 2005 Cronulla riots [1], where tattoos, t-shirts and scrawlings on the beach reading "100% Aussie Pride" were largely seen as a display of ethnic identification.
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There is a big difference between a policy that protects the native than a policy that protect their skin colors in a foreign land.Originally posted by fymk:Almost the same as the bumiputra policy which was the fundamental reason for the split of Singapore from Malaysia except in Australia's history, the whites are colonialists not natives.
White Australia Policy was effectively overturned in 1973 by amendments to the immigration legislation to end racial aspects . In 1975 the Racial Discrimination Act made the use of racial criteria for any official purpose illegal. In 1978, review of immigration law in 1978 that all selection of prospective migrants based on country of origin was entirely removed from official immigration policy.In 1982 , preference to british subjects are removed.
So what problem do you have with an abolished policy , Gazelle?
Before you say anything else, there are already 2 chinese senators who sat or am sitting in the Australian Federal Parliament Upper House. And there are a few MPs of chinese descent who sat or are currently sitting in the lower house of the federal parliament.
Do you actually believe that a change in government policy will immediately change the mindset of the people who strongly believe in and supported that policy? Or you prefer to live in denial? -
I suspect that you speak with too much american slang.Originally posted by vito_corleone:isn't the name self-explanatory enough? funny thing is i get mistaken for a local in the US but in singapore i've been thought to be a foreigner, IN MY OWN COUNTRY 
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The only difference is that some Singaporeans dont mind racism remarks in a foreign land as long it is coming from a white man.Originally posted by fymk:I get checked . My caucasian colleague gets checked ...Big W does check on everyone in Melbourne as long as the bag looks like it can hold a huge tin of biscuits. -
Gazelle, you can also choose to remain in denial about SingaporeÂ’s historical past too. Did 1964Â’s racial riot not exist? In total, the violence killed 36 people and injured another 556. About 3,000 people were arrested. In response to 1964, Singapore implemented policies that made racial discrimination and riots punishable by law including enforcing the ISA.Originally posted by Gazelle:There is a big difference between a policy that protects the native than a policy that protect their skin colors in a foreign land.
Do you actually believe that a change in government policy will immediately change the mindset of the people who strongly believe in and supported that policy? Or you prefer to live in denial?
Though Singapore now is at peace, we must know that underneath this seemingly calm surface, there are under-currents too. We must not deny this, but instead act on it to prevent a repeat of the 1964Â’s incident.
I hope this answer your senseless question of whether a change in government policy will immediately change the mindset of the people who strongly believe in and supported that policy. Of course nothing is immediate! People takes time to change, but a change is better than no change at all my dear friend!
Perhaps under you, GazelleÂ’s governance, nothing would have been done and you will still pretend that the world is a beautiful and lovely place while your citizens are suffering away.
Please stop your senseless questioning. You are making a fool of yourself. -
Perhaps you prefer acts of racism from a fellow Singaporean? And what is your issue with Australians? Are you a racist? If not, why white Australians? Why not include Singaporeans, Nazis, Iraqis, Americans, Malaysians, Thai, Eskimos too? Just what is your problem with Australia?Originally posted by Gazelle:The only difference is that some Singaporeans dont mind racism remarks in a foreign land as long it is coming from a white man.
If your aim is to discuss racism in Australia, I suggest including other countries into it because racism is a global illness, if not you are just practising racism, racism against the white Australians. -
Originally posted by Gazelle:
Who in the world told you the entire Australia agrees?
Calling yourself aussie doesnt mean you are being recognized as one. what a shame isnt it?
In a multicultural context, Aussie is used by some in Australia as a specific term for Australians of the 'traditional' majority cultural group, that is, "Aussies" is sometimes understood to denote 'Anglo-Celtic' Australians. A parallel can be drawn between the usage of "Aussie" in Australia and Boer in South Africa, both referring to the descendants of early settlers, as opposed to later immigrants. Sometimes this can be interpreted as excluding Australians of a Mediterranean, Asian or Middle Eastern cultural background. The usage of "Aussie" in this context is regarded as offensive by some, as it can denote that some cultural groups are not equally Australian. It may also be used in a derogatory sense by those who do not consider themselves Australian to label those who do. While attempts by schools, politicians and the media to use the term as an all encompassing label for those with Australian citizenship, it has continued to retain common usage as an ethnic descriptor, especially among youth. The terminology received international attention as a result of the 2005 Cronulla riots [1], where tattoos, t-shirts and scrawlings on the beach reading "100% Aussie Pride" were largely seen as a display of ethnic identification. -
Do you understand why they call it WHITE Australia Policy, and not just Australia Policy?Originally posted by bangkokboy:Gazelle, you can also choose to remain in denial about SingaporeÂ’s historical past too. Did 1964Â’s racial riot not exist? In total, the violence killed 36 people and injured another 556. About 3,000 people were arrested. In response to 1964, Singapore implemented policies that made racial discrimination and riots punishable by law including enforcing the ISA.
Though Singapore now is at peace, we must know that underneath this seemingly calm surface, there are under-currents too. We must not deny this, but instead act on it to prevent a repeat of the 1964Â’s incident.
I hope this answer your senseless question of whether a change in government policy will immediately change the mindset of the people who strongly believe in and supported that policy. Of course nothing is immediate! People takes time to change, but a change is better than no change at all my dear friend!
Perhaps under you, GazelleÂ’s governance, nothing would have been done and you will still pretend that the world is a beautiful and lovely place while your citizens are suffering away.
Please stop your senseless questioning. You are making a fool of yourself.
The purpose of this thread is not about which country is better or worst, but rather to touch on the racial situation in Australia.
**Honestly if you prefer to start a flaming war with your nonsense personal attack, I would prefer that you start a seperate thread** -
Why Australia in particular? Are you moving there?Originally posted by Gazelle:Do you understand why they call it WHITE Australia Policy, and not just Australia Policy?
The purpose of this thread is not about which country is better or worst, but rather to touch on the racial situation in Australia.
**Honestly if you prefer to start a flaming war with your nonsense personal attack, I would prefer that you start a seperate thread** -
And by the way, did you even know about Singapore's racial riots?
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Initially born out of anti-Chinese racism during the gold rush, the Royal Commission appointed by Governor Hotham, on the 16 November, and labour union protests of the 1880's, the key legislative enactment of the White Australia Policy was the Immigration Restriction Act of 1901. Discriminatory immigration policies were gradually removed between the end of World War II and 1982 with racially discriminatory aspects of the Migration Act officially overturned in 1973.Originally posted by Gazelle:Do you understand why they call it WHITE Australia Policy, and not just Australia Policy?
The purpose of this thread is not about which country is better or worst, but rather to touch on the racial situation in Australia.
**Honestly if you prefer to start a flaming war with your nonsense personal attack, I would prefer that you start a seperate thread**
In contemporary Australian public and academic discourses, the term 'White Australia Policy' is commonly used to refer to the conception of Australia in ethno-nationalistic terms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy -
How Australian react to Sep11.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/sep2001/musl-s20.shtml -
Why is it WHITE?Originally posted by bangkokboy:Initially born out of anti-Chinese racism during the gold rush, the Royal Commission appointed by Governor Hotham, on the 16 November, and labour union protests of the 1880's, the key legislative enactment of the White Australia Policy was the Immigration Restriction Act of 1901. Discriminatory immigration policies were gradually removed between the end of World War II and 1982 with racially discriminatory aspects of the Migration Act officially overturned in 1973.
In contemporary Australian public and academic discourses, the term 'White Australia Policy' is commonly used to refer to the conception of Australia in ethno-nationalistic terms.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy -
Wouldn't comparisan help on accessing whether the racism level is high, medium or low?Originally posted by Gazelle:Do you understand why they call it WHITE Australia Policy, and not just Australia Policy?
The purpose of this thread is not about which country is better or worst, but rather to touch on the racial situation in Australia.
**Honestly if you prefer to start a flaming war with your nonsense personal attack, I would prefer that you start a seperate thread**
OMG how can I give you an accurate evaluation without proper feedback about what other countries are facing? -
Hello, it was named way before I was born... it even ended before I was born so how was I to know? I suggest you ask your grandfather about it. Maybe they may know why it is White and not Maroon, Pink, Navy blue...Originally posted by Gazelle:Why is it WHITE? -
The effective end of the White Australia policy is usually dated to 1973, when the Whitlam Labor government implemented a series of amendments preventing the enforcement of racial aspects of the immigration law. These amendments legislated that: blah blah blah...Originally posted by Gazelle:Why is it WHITE?
It was not until the Fraser government's review of immigration law in 1978 that all selection of prospective migrants based on country of origin was entirely removed from official policy. Currently, a large number of Australia's immigrants are from countries such as China and India, though the United Kingdom and New Zealand respectively remain the two largest single sources of immigrants.
The last selective immigration policy, offering relocation assistance to British nationals, was finally removed in 1982
It ended effectively in 1982. If you wish to bring up racist government policies please do find a more current one thank you.