Singapore Vs Malaysia
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Singapore is stable, clean and green, well defended and politically very stable.
Malaysia is politically unstable, crime is rampant, cops are corrupt and the list goes on...
Instead i am so facinated that the malaysian media can play on us 'bad boys down south'. I mean as a singaporean i feel very offended by the very racially targeted remarks made by Dr M. He says malays in singapore are underated. What about the chinese in malaysia...? ain't they underated too?
Look at our SM...he has handed his power to PM Goh and has taken the back seat. However...the old man in malaysia continues to cling stubbornly to his little mock throne and throws his DPM into prison for a butt fucking saga(fabricated?)
Any day i be happier being a singaporean
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Every country's got it's pro and cons. It all depends on how you see it. Since when is Malaysia politically unstable? At least their Umno got a PAS to worry about. How about us? only a single dictated PAP....is this democracy?
Singapore is stable? In wat sense? As of now, I think we are economcally unstable due the recession and many other factor.
Malaysia crime rampant? Are the streets in ruins? Are there frequent riots? I don't think so.
Singapore clean and green? Wat's there to be proud of if our area are maintain why foreign cleaners while we our own people keep littering and throw cigratte bud around?
I can rattle all thing but wat I'm trying to say is that every country got it's ups and downs. You cannot condemn a country just becoz of some of it's bad side ..... JUst as you cannot judge that a country is best just by words of mouth.
Singapore may be clean,well defended and politically stable.....but it's not a paradise (high living standards, no welfare, a developed country too fast while people's mindset are still of a developing country, etc....)
Malaysia may have a higher crime rate, politics and blunt media, but it's still have many good stuff that singapore dun have (the varsity of land, the low cost in living, the laxing of the law, etc...)
Wat we may persive on other country may not always be true. Some goes for those who pervice our country as evil....they are wrong too.
Anyway, Singaporean? Not very proud but always wanted to give it a good name.
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I agree that in every nation there are its ups and downs. and Pros and cons.
As a chinese singaporean. I am facinated and proud to be a singaporean. I dont feel marginalized and i have been given every opportunity to improve myself and my quality of life.
We dont have underwear gangs and M16 gangs robbing our banks. Our ladies dont have to worry about getting raped by some perverts...and later finding out they need 4 muslim men of good character to testify for them.
Even In JB my malaysian friends are strongly aware of the gangsterism activities and the muggings.
People can say watever they want...but i am happy and proud to be living on this side of the causeway. And i feel obligated to defend singapore should she be threatened.
Everyone knows that Malaysia is years behind singapore. Just ask any cabbie or man on the street and they will tell u anytime singapore is the better place to be. Why do you think PAS is so jealous of singapore? theres absolutely nothing to hide...its so obvious.
Even in recession our economy is strong. Confidence is strong. And people begin to take this time to educate themselves and train themselves for future employment. Singaporeans dont blame the recession on God and start spending time in dark rooms training to blow up planes. We dont strap bombs on our bodies and kill bus loads of children. We dont cheer and be hypocritical when we see towers burning...we are geniunly shocked.
We want progress. We want economic confidence. And we want our pride. Being able to look up and tell the world we are singaporean. However our soverignty must never be compromised by our neighbours bad mouthing us, or trying to hunk us.
If successful countries gives us some friendly advise...i be happy to see the country learn from them. However if 'certain' neighbours who already change presidents umpteen times in the past five years...or countries that have terrorist walk right into their army camps and ship off loads of guns...come telling singapore that we suck...i can only roll my eye balls up and sip my morning coffee...
Btw if you have only bad things to say about singapore...pls you are not welcomed in this forums...as this is SG FORUMS. Not 'malay' siaForums
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i like this topic
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Thailand_Hero for GE2007 !!!Originally posted by pocketpig II:i like this topic -
let's form a party
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I would agreed with SilentHunter on his opinion.He is just trying to be more open and voice out hisOriginally posted by Thailand_Hero:Btw if you have only bad things to say about singapore...pls you are not welcomed in this forums...as this is SG FORUMS. Not 'malay' siaForums
view, I dun think he deserve the sarcastic remark Thailand_Hero comment.
As a Singaporean, I do feel proud to be one. But there are areas which we need to think about.
Higher standard of living means higher quality of life? There is also a price to pay for a Safer place and cleaner place to live in, nothing comes free. Can you survive in Singapore for a year without a job? or can earning 2k/month feed a family? I know you can in Malaysia but i doubt that in Singapore. In times like these, when the government urge the people to expect pay cut, lower bonus, lower pay...how come the government themselve expect a profit from busines their in, aren't we suppose to go inline? Why increase in the standard of living like "Public" transport, GST and even more ERP gantry? becos the PROFIT is not good enough? Can we say no? For things like PR, i have came across many foreigner easily getting one within a year, maybe you could try to get one in Malaysia, you may not even get one if you stay there for 10 years. Why? becos, the government protect the interest of their own citizen. (I am sorry if i offend any PR).
Well, do not ask me to migrate, I do have the right to voice my view. Yes, the government of Singapore
have also done alot of good work for people and i really hope we can be a even better country as a whole.
So let's not compare.
Btw, if you (Thailand_Hero) wish to post a subjective thread please allow for all type of comments. Unless you already have a answer for yourself then there is no point posting. We are living in a stressful world already, by commenting SgForum for Singaporean only and not allowing negative view dun make life easier for both party. -
Couldn't agreed more with you, MusicPls.
We toil like a dog everyday just to pay taxes and to feed our family. Nothing much left for us to enjoy ourselves for the hard work. 
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I will always be behind u in whatever u do, thailand_hero!!!!!!!!!! you have my support!!!!!!!!!!!
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wow score is 1-1
1 for THP(thailand hero party)
1 for MPP(musicPls party)
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Originally posted by Silenthunter:
it is stupid to comment on the varsity of land. it is something like comparing singapore with japan on earthquakes, active volcanoes and tidal waves(tsunamis). all this factors are natural geological calamities and land formations.(vasitry of land). u cant take them into considerations as they are within our grasp and control whether you are singaporeans or malaysians or even americans.
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Malaysia may have a higher crime rate, politics and blunt media, but it's still have many good stuff that singapore dun have (the varsity of land, the low cost in living, the laxing of the law, etc...)
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but to all foreigners, i will make this point lucid... if singapore government were to take control of malaysia fundamentally, meaning to bring the whole malaysia into our federal constitutencies and governing, malaysia will become better than she is today, political and economical wise. -
to clarify what i had written earlier:
they are NOT within our grasp and conntrol...
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why are so many malaysian crossing the strait of malacca everyday just to earn a living and get a full stomach if malaysia is as great as what you guys mentioned? -
Because they get paid in SGD. And that's more than double in RM.Originally posted by StQwerty:why are so many malaysian crossing the strait of malacca everyday just to earn a living and get a full stomach if malaysia is as great as what you guys mentioned? -
THEY ALWAY SEE US WITH RED EYES.
BIG BULLIES
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just adding a poem (NOT WRITTEN BY ME) from zaobao (i think) few years ago:
Little Red Dot
We are just a little red dot,
Treated by Malaysia like a dog.
Becuase no cargoes go to their dock,
They make us close down the CLOB,
And refuse to stamp passport.
Everyday their ministers talk and talk,
And we get knock and knock,
Fortunately they are only good in talking rot,
Singaporeans are smart enough not to get caught.
They built a bigger airport.
Instead of more planes big rats they got!
Singapore's success is not favoured by GOD,
We work hard to get what we have got.
Continue to strive better otherwise life will be like bittergourd!They boo us in front of the whole world without a thought,
Their deeds make the whole world cough,
And make our little red dot more adorable by our folks.
(Copied word for word, even punctutation and grammer and all)
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why dont you take it like this
a number of singaporeans just cant treat success and failure on equal terms
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Thats wat Former indonesia president said about Singapore.. a small red dot.
Aniway....wanna comment out the so called "lax of laws in malaysia" .. are u sure its LAX? i dun think so....dun u know u'll get stoned to death by committing some not so heinous crimes..... a gd e.g. is adultery -
this is afterall, a very sensitive topic.
malaysia itself, it's economy is still rather unstable, and its country also face instability because of the religious fanatism. i wouldn't want to comment too much about them simply because i don't exactly know much about malaysia's economy and its economic system.
singapore.. oh well, one thing proud to say is that we have indeed a prudent and efficient government where you find no corruptions or anything, and though yes, we might not allow free flow of ideas, but i believe that this is quite inevitable in singapore's society. besides, singaporeans are so complacent that they find this no difficulty to comply to.
malaysia actually developed way before singapore, but it's because of the policies and the way singapore governs herself, it has exceeded malaysia in many aspects. we must never fail to see malaysia and other countries as competitors, but malaysia still has a long way to go. although malaysia has started to teach english in their schools, however, this is a long process, and may not advance that fast in the near future. they must first find teachers, and wait for the current students to grow up.
singapore indeed has a rather high standard of living qualitatively and quantitatively, and yes, there is a price to pay. of course, nothing in this world is free isn't it? there's a price to pay for any country in the world to enjoy your high living standards. tax and all that, is inevitable as well. maybe you could think it when you are all aged and old, that money can come in useful. -
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I think that it is pretty pointless to go into Singapore/Malaysia bashing. Both sides are equally guilty of using the other as a bogeyman when it suits the respective political parties.
Is Singapore the poor helpless victim being slimed by her larger neighbours? Just take the little red dot comment by Habibie. Our papers happily reported his insults, just as they had focused on his comments about the Malays being marginalised in the SAF.
But nothing is mentioned about the fact that prior to the 'Malays in the SAF' comments, our dear SM had shot his mouth off predicting publicly that Habibie cannot last; and prior to the little red dot comment, Teo Chee Hean have insulted Habibie by handing over Singapore's food aid package to Indonesia to Wiranto instead of the then president Habibie.
There's always two sides to the story, and Singapore have done its fair share of rhethorics as compared to her SEA neighbours.... -
SM Lee didn't quote that Habibie will not last, he quote that it's Gus Dur (Indonesia Ex-president) will not last, or at least that's what Gus Dur claimed.....well, he is right though. Habibie isn't happy wif us cos we were late to congraduate him when he's appointed as president.....DUH???Originally posted by Reggi:I think that it is pretty pointless to go into Singapore/Malaysia bashing. Both sides are equally guilty of using the other as a bogeyman when it suits the respective political parties.
Is Singapore the poor helpless victim being slimed by her larger neighbours? Just take the little red dot comment by Habibie. Our papers happily reported his insults, just as they had focused on his comments about the Malays being marginalised in the SAF.
But nothing is mentioned about the fact that prior to the 'Malays in the SAF' comments, our dear SM had shot his mouth off predicting publicly that Habibie cannot last; and prior to the little red dot comment, Teo Chee Hean have insulted Habibie by handing over Singapore's food aid package to Indonesia to Wiranto instead of the then president Habibie.
There's always two sides to the story, and Singapore have done its fair share of rhethorics as compared to her SEA neighbours....
And Habibie? He's happily living in UK.....away from the land he's once from. habibie abandon his own country and still talk big about us....HA!