Will USA disintegrate?
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lol. if that happen,
what will the term 'american' means??
will the term cease to exist?
i think the term will be change to texasian, floridian, alaskan, kentuckian.
Will u ppl rejoice or sad that the 'international police' is no more?
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it just may happen
just like the american civil war .. if some states begin to express their states rights. they could very well withdraw from the union -
If USA were to separate, chances of nation hood are below..
The Southern states were a confederacy during the American Civil War. even till now the southern states have a distinctive accent and are often since hoisting their blue,red,stars and cross flags, especially during nascar rallies. Jefferson was the President of The Confederate United States untill he died and the confederacy collapsed. California, if separated, its economy is the 10th Strongest economy in the world.California is the most populous state in USA with 33million. The sun may raise at the East but California is the last frontier of western civilisation. Much hollywood and pop music u see these days are Californian influence rather than USA influenced. A nice song to hear is Red Hot Chilli Peppers -(King of Californication) 
. In fact, California was known as the Bear State. Which actually got independence from USA before it was annexed again by USA. Texas, the 2nd largest american state. Republic of Texas was actually a mexican territory. Back then it broke from from Spainish Mexico and enjoyed 10 years of independence as a sovereign country before USA annexed it. Texas Republic later defected to join the Southern confederacy. Till now Texas and California is still very much under hispanic influnced. Hawaii. Half an ocean away. A non white indigenious island before white people came, rape, rob and plunder their holy grounds and graves. Now hawaii is a white man party island, much to the annoyance of the native people there. Alaska, the largest american state, bought by the USA from Russia. Not land connected to USA mainland. Inuits there ain't considered americans. Inuits are dispersed around Greenland,Siberia and Nordic countries American Natives. Situated in the most isolated areas in America. Mostly already an extinct human race mainly due to white man genocide. But pockets of native indians still live on in villages unaccessible by conventional methods.
But we all know, like China has signed the anti-seccession law. The Americans would go at all cost to prevent her territories from segregation. and we all know that Canada is USA's unofficial 51th state. -
Why would it disintegrate anyway?
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First point is factually inaccurate. The Confederacy collapsed because the Army of North Virginia simply couldn't prevent the Union from reannexing it. Jefferson Davis was alive when the CSA collapsed and survived a number of years after that.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:If USA were to separate, chances of nation hood are below.. The Southern states were a confederacy during the American Civil War. even till now the southern states have a distinctive accent and are often since hoisting their blue,red,stars and cross flags, especially during nascar rallies. Jefferson was the President of The Confederate United States untill he died and the confederacy collapsed. California, if separated, its economy is the 10th Strongest economy in the world.California is the most populous state in USA with 33million. The sun may raise at the East but California is the last frontier of western civilisation. Much hollywood and pop music u see these days are Californian influence rather than USA influenced. A nice song to hear is Red Hot Chilli Peppers -(King of Californication) . In fact, California was known as the Bear State. Which actually got independence from USA before it was annexed again by USA. Texas, the 2nd largest american state. Republic of Texas was actually a mexican territory. Back then it broke from from Spainish Mexico and enjoyed 10 years of independence as a sovereign country before USA annexed it. Texas Republic later defected to join the Southern confederacy. Till now Texas and California is still very much under hispanic influnced. Hawaii. Half an ocean away. A non white indigenious island before white people came, rape, rob and plunder their holy grounds and graves. Now hawaii is a white man party island, much to the annoyance of the native people there. Alaska, the largest american state, bought by the USA from Russia. Not land connected to USA mainland. Inuits there ain't considered americans. Inuits are dispersed around Greenland,Siberia and Nordic countries American Natives. Situated in the most isolated areas in America. Mostly already an extinct human race mainly due to white man genocide. But pockets of native indians still live on in villages unaccessible by conventional methods.
But we all know, like China has signed the anti-seccession law. The Americans would go at all cost to prevent her territories from segregation. and we all know that Canada is USA's unofficial 51th state.
Regarding Hawaii, I agree with you. Even right now theres a secessionist movement that flying the Hawaiian flag upside down. Some might say that the referendum bringing Hawaii into the Union was rather one-sided because most of the voters were white settlers and not native people. -
thks for commenting.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas:If USA were to separate, chances of nation hood are below.. The Southern states were a confederacy during the American Civil War. even till now the southern states have a distinctive accent and are often since hoisting their blue,red,stars and cross flags, especially during nascar rallies. Jefferson was the President of The Confederate United States untill he died and the confederacy collapsed. California, if separated, its economy is the 10th Strongest economy in the world.California is the most populous state in USA with 33million. The sun may raise at the East but California is the last frontier of western civilisation. Much hollywood and pop music u see these days are Californian influence rather than USA influenced. A nice song to hear is Red Hot Chilli Peppers -(King of Californication) . In fact, California was known as the Bear State. Which actually got independence from USA before it was annexed again by USA. Texas, the 2nd largest american state. Republic of Texas was actually a mexican territory. Back then it broke from from Spainish Mexico and enjoyed 10 years of independence as a sovereign country before USA annexed it. Texas Republic later defected to join the Southern confederacy. Till now Texas and California is still very much under hispanic influnced. Hawaii. Half an ocean away. A non white indigenious island before white people came, rape, rob and plunder their holy grounds and graves. Now hawaii is a white man party island, much to the annoyance of the native people there. Alaska, the largest american state, bought by the USA from Russia. Not land connected to USA mainland. Inuits there ain't considered americans. Inuits are dispersed around Greenland,Siberia and Nordic countries American Natives. Situated in the most isolated areas in America. Mostly already an extinct human race mainly due to white man genocide. But pockets of native indians still live on in villages unaccessible by conventional methods.
But we all know, like China has signed the anti-seccession law. The Americans would go at all cost to prevent her territories from segregation. and we all know that Canada is USA's unofficial 51th state.
Also to add, the pressure to disintegrate may be coming from external factor than internal.. -
ahh...thks for correcting me.Originally posted by fallin:First point is factually inaccurate. The Confederacy collapsed because the Army of North Virginia simply couldn't prevent the Union from reannexing it. Jefferson Davis was alive when the CSA collapsed and survived a number of years after that.
Regarding Hawaii, I agree with you. Even right now theres a secessionist movement that flying the Hawaiian flag upside down. Some might say that the referendum bringing Hawaii into the Union was rather one-sided because most of the voters were white settlers and not native people.
USA history for me has gone a little rusty -
Not quite true. The Native Americans who have not assimilated into mainstream American society, have established reservations which are recognized as sovereign territories by the US government. And these reservations are fully accessible by 'conventional' methods, especially the ones that have casinos that draw in tens of thousands of gamblers from outside the reservations.Originally posted by pinkish purple papayas: American Natives. Situated in the most isolated areas in America. Mostly already an extinct human race mainly due to white man genocide. But pockets of native indians still live on in villages unaccessible by conventional methods.
We have a number of such reservations here in Minnesota and over in Wisconsin. -
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even though the rednecks dont really like the yankees, most americans would simply identify with a united american identity. take 9-11 for example, people from every state took the side of their countrymen. chances of it disintegrating are probably next to none
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Yeah. USA is too strong to be disintegrated. Even if so, it would take a few hundred years.
Almost everyone is happy with their american identity. Cheers uncle sam! -
I think the balkanization of the US is unlikely but not totally improbably. As I've mentioned before, there are already secessionist movements in the US. There's a sentiment I've heard before on other forums saying that the states will move out of the Union when they find that the country is too big for one Federal government to handle. Besides, individual states already have their own state legislatures and governors. In event of a split, thats a premade government. No fighting for power and the sort. So I think thats one point clearly veering in favour of a secession situation.