You need chair? I don't care!
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6 months pregnant mum-to-be Fen received a rude shock when she was travelling on board the MRT on 8 January 2007, and this man in the picture simply ignored her even though she went "excuse me", and carried on reading his book.
The male commuter, recounted Fen, actually looked up at her, then turned away, refusing to remove his plastic bag on the seat next to his.
Said Fen, in her MMS to STOMP:
"He was such an inconsiderate man. I am a pregnant woman and I was standing right in front of this Uncle for two stations. hoping he will remove his plastic bag. But he lowered his head and ignored my presence. Other passengers in the train did not offer me a seat.
I think the authorities should emphasize in greater detail train courtesy and consideration!"
seriously we should let up seats to older pple and pregant woman especially no matter how tired we are unless fainting -
As stated in that Comments there on that page:Originally posted by ghimpheng:[img]
6 months pregnant mum-to-be Fen received a rude shock when she was travelling on board the MRT on 8 January 2007, and this man in the picture simply ignored her even though she went "excuse me", and carried on reading his book.
The male commuter, recounted Fen, actually looked up at her, then turned away, refusing to remove his plastic bag on the seat next to his.
Said Fen, in her MMS to STOMP:
"He was such an inconsiderate man. I am a pregnant woman and I was standing right in front of this Uncle for two stations. hoping he will remove his plastic bag. But he lowered his head and ignored my presence. Other passengers in the train did not offer me a seat.
I think the authorities should emphasize in greater detail train courtesy and consideration!"
seriously we should let up seats to older pple and pregant woman especially no matter how tired we are unless fainting
1) It was unclear whether the Uncle heard the Lady the one time she said something. (But it was obvious that he's wrong by not Offering a seat automatically)
2) This Lady did not try to ask again "Uncle, can i sit down here?"(Some people thick skin must loudly ask to embarrass them then would they do something)
3) Asking the Authorities to emphasize greater courtesy@blah is like asking the teacher to potty train your own children. (Do it yourself) -
just bcos he's old doesent entitle him to 2 seats
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Alot of old folks here very jaded
They have that "I'm old so i don't give a F**k" mentality
But then again the other people around the pregnant lady should have gotten up.
I would
Goes to show alot of Singaporeans are quite assholes -
trains should have seats reserved for pregnant/ elderly people.
sg is a FINE city, so why not set a law & fine fine fine
off topic:
on brisbane trains, there are signages that read:"Students on concession are not allowed to sit while adults on full-fares is standing." i know NPNT but i dont have a camera with me that time.
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then in this case pregnant pple and old pple must pay more to be offered seats on priority?
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someone should throw his book on the floor and give his face a good smack
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pple should offer their seats to the person that is in need rather than the person requesting for it
when u see someone who is in need of your help and u are able to help why don't you offer your help instead of the person requesting it -
This is true but I didn't give a fcuk about it when I was in Oz unless the person is pregnant, invalid or agedOriginally posted by menoob:trains should have seats reserved for pregnant/ elderly people.
sg is a FINE city, so why not set a law & fine fine fine
off topic:
on brisbane trains, there are signages that read:"Students on concession are not allowed to sit while adults on full-fares is standing." i know NPNT but i dont have a camera with me that time. -
she should have asked again if the package belonged to the man, if he doesn't respond, call 999 as adviced by the public announcement...the reason, unclaimed package, could be a bomb....
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welcome to sinkapore!
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This shows a failure of policies from the government.
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Can't blame everything on the gov, it just the up bringing
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Stop finding excuses for the government.Originally posted by justcooler:Can't blame everything on the gov, it just the up bringing
If every part of your life is controlled by them since birth to death, I would say they would be responsible.
The policies and examples set by our leaders would lead us to certain paths. -
if hes old.. i guess hes entitled.. but i'm not sure about his book though..Originally posted by used:just bcos he's old doesent entitle him to 2 seats -
Stop finding excuses for yourself! You choose not to give up a seat for someone else who needs it. It's not because "CME neber teach me lehz, eets de teecher, the skool, the moe, the gahment faults that i never give up seat for preg woman/old person"Originally posted by maurizio13:Stop finding excuses for the government.
If every part of your life is controlled by them since birth to death, I would say they would be responsible.
The policies and examples set by our leaders would lead us to certain paths.
It's your own CHOICE to move your butt or not for a person in need.
I dont think the "gahment" teach you to write with your right/left hand either.
Our government has its shortcomings...but courtesy, ethics and morality are all personal choices to make. Dont be a gorilla.
By the way.. there's something called learning the right and wrong of the actions of someone else. If you just choose to blindly follow "policies and examples set by our leaders" without thinking whether it's good/bad you are just like them. -
if i put myself into the old man shoes. the woman say 'excuse me' to me and the package doesnt belong to me. i will "huh? smlj?.. *continue reading*"
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Skarly it was one of those bombs left by that cap wearing handphone bomber we see in the MRT terrorist warning vids. But he forgot to top up his hi card and his mission failed.
Come to think of it, it is more likely that singaporeans will start arguing over seats then notice bombs. -
Don't the blame the government when your parents didn't bother to teach you....your father should do the spanking, it's not the government's jobOriginally posted by maurizio13:Stop finding excuses for the government.
If every part of your life is controlled by them since birth to death, I would say they would be responsible.
The policies and examples set by our leaders would lead us to certain paths.
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If a baby when given birth to, is isolated from all human contact. When that boy grows up to be a teenager or adult. Do you think he will have any concept of morality, courtesy or even ethics? It is the interaction of society that defines his concept of morality, courtesy and ethics. Who determines how our society acts or behave? Perhaps you are a rare case, whereby during delivery, you would utter vulgarities at the doctor for smacking you on the butt to clear surfactant.Originally posted by CM06:Stop finding excuses for yourself! You choose not to give up a seat for someone else who needs it. It's not because "CME neber teach me lehz, eets de teecher, the skool, the moe, the gahment faults that i never give up seat for preg woman/old person"
It's your own CHOICE to move your butt or not for a person in need.
I dont think the "gahment" teach you to write with your right/left hand either.
Our government has its shortcomings...but courtesy, ethics and morality are all personal choices to make. Dont be a gorilla.
By the way.. there's something called learning the right and wrong of the actions of someone else. If you just choose to blindly follow "policies and examples set by our leaders" without thinking whether it's good/bad you are just like them.
Hehehe
Personal choice is an acquired state of mind.
There was a case known as "Wild Boy of Aveyron".
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Hark!
I hear the sound of dog barking.
Hehehe
WHO LET THE DOGS OUT?!?!?!
WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF!!!
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Someone needs a spanking
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Waaah So SMART! Such subtle and succint language usage! Bring in wiki as "proof" somemore.Originally posted by maurizio13:If a baby when given birth to, is isolated from all human contact. When that boy grows up to be a teenager or adult. Do you think he will have any concept of morality, courtesy or even ethics? It is the interaction of society that defines his concept of morality, courtesy and ethics. Who determines how our society acts or behave? Perhaps you are a rare case, whereby during delivery, you would utter vulgarities at the doctor for smacking you on the butt to clear surfactant.
Hehehe
Personal choice is an acquired state of mind.
There was a case known as "Wild Boy of Aveyron".
A man without culture and social interaction would be an animal.
Your "if" case is simply extreme with regards to this matter. Why drag tarzen into the picture? Drag Kingkong in an well!
The point of my argument is YOU arent "Tarzen" You have a brain and are already taught how to think for yourself. Dont blame the circumstances when you are able to assess the situation.
Sheesh. My point is: i disagree with you blaming the Gov if you dont give up a seat for someone who needs it. If you are willing to give up your seat on public transport, then our argument here is moot. -
They have a "I'm old so I deserve this and that, it must go to ME" kind of attitude.Originally posted by Ignatiaus:Alot of old folks here very jaded
They have that "I'm old so i don't give a F**k" mentality
But then again the other people around the pregnant lady should have gotten up.
I would
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Cool it people.
In my opinion, the blame cannot be placed all on the government. The government policies may be linked (and disliked by me) but it does not present a direct causal effect on the outcome. It can also be argued that there were courtesy campaigns during my time ( anyone remember that smile campaign with that silly looking lion?)
It is the society's fault and the failure of parents to bring up a civil minded person. Societal norms dictate that if it is not your business, you just turn and look the other way - so people don't bother unless it is an accident and they want to buy 4D numbers off the carplate then it becomes their business to be busy bodies. Another norm involves expecting someone to take the initiative instead of asking directly for something because the person did not want to seem rude. But if they expect and their expectations fall short even though THEY NEVER BOTHER TO ASK-- they will whine like this woman did.
However the fault cannot be laid totally on the society because you still have considerate Singaporeans around who would gladly do the right thing when it happens in front of them.
So we can only conclude that it is more of the result of the upbringing and societal norms. People who don't ask and expect to be given something ,as well as People who just look the other way.