Singaporeans are the luckiest people in the world
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Singapore's model of governance can only be applied to authoritarian regimes, it will never work in countries such as France, Germany, Britain, USA, Switzerland, etc. The citizens there value their lifestyle and freedom too much, if their government tries implementing such style of governance, riots will break out leading to the downfall of the government.
PAP's style of governance has worked well till now is because of Singaporean's kiasi (fear of consequences) attitude, since young we are brought up under their draconian laws, we don't even have the basic right to protest to our discontentment; how would such style of governance be right? If you dine in a fine restaurant, you find that the food is not up to your expectation, you would raise the issue with the manager, but in the Singapore context, such rights has been removed from you, you are not able to voice any objection to the food being served. -
Nothing we can do what. Say something wait kena jail or sue. But those stupid 66.6% very happy lah, so what to do.
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my smelly foot.Originally posted by Cystaire:We are the luckiest people in the SEA region, probably the world.
We have a government that is legendary for its efficiency and foresight.
At the same time, Singapore's government is the luckiest in SEA, likely the world.
They manage a hardworking people who are obedient, have a can-do attitude, and don't ask too many questions.
If you read the history of other countries you will realize just how lucky we are. Look at it both ways.
If we have an oppressive government, then no matter how good the people are, there will be widespread suffering. The only real vote that anyone has is her or his feet. In Singapore, people migrate as professionals, often living rich and happy lives elsewhere.
In other regional countries, they migrate as despised boat people or illegal labour.
If we have a violent, uncooperative people, then no matter how good the government is, there will be widespread bloodshed. In other countries where there is deep ethnic and religious or civil strife, everything is much much much harder for any government to handle.
Always count your blessings.
Things can't be much better, but they can sure be much much much worse.
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Well, the govt has faced a whole lot of stinging criticism, which is no doubt healthy. However, what viable alternative or alternatives can critiques offer to this government? I guess what we need viable solutions if we want to offer criticisms. For example, the gap between the rich and the poor. Many are calling for the government to do more. As such, the government has decided to push GST up to 7 per cent to offset it's proposed social policies. Many lement that this measure would in effect render the middle and lower incomed segments of our population worst off. In opposition, many are calling for a whole array of alternative measures, some suggest that we should use our reserves to plug the gap; others reason that we should tax the rich and embrace western socialism; others say that we have to cut down our spending on other sectors. These are reasonable solutions, but are they viable in our nation-state? Plugging the gap with our reserves which is effectively property of the citizenry. Certainly it sounds convenient, but in the long run, how long can the reserve be used to plug the gap? Income gaps are here to stay, it's just a causal effect of our globalized world. Even the United States is facing a debate of such on it's own. Of course, most western nations have socialism to turn to, but can socialism work in Singapore? Given the investor reliant economy we are?
I believe the plug gap measure of re-distributing our annual surpluses is a start, even though meagre the sum, it shows the administrations' readiness to utilize that option when need be. -
No need to discuss lah, the gahment don't care what you or me say. We just do what they say can liao, why waste our breath?
Talk so much in the end still need to pay 7% GST, i rather use this time to stare at the clouds.... at least more constructive haha. -
Quicey,Originally posted by Quincey:Well, the govt has faced a whole lot of stinging criticism, which is no doubt healthy. However, what viable alternative or alternatives can critiques offer to this government? I guess what we need viable solutions if we want to offer criticisms. For example, the gap between the rich and the poor. Many are calling for the government to do more. As such, the government has decided to push GST up to 7 per cent to offset it's proposed social policies. Many lement that this measure would in effect render the middle and lower incomed segments of our population worst off. In opposition, many are calling for a whole array of alternative measures, some suggest that we should use our reserves to plug the gap; others reason that we should tax the rich and embrace western socialism; others say that we have to cut down our spending on other sectors. These are reasonable solutions, but are they viable in our nation-state? Plugging the gap with our reserves which is effectively property of the citizenry. Certainly it sounds convenient, but in the long run, how long can the reserve be used to plug the gap? Income gaps are here to stay, it's just a causal effect of our globalized world. Even the United States is facing a debate of such on it's own. Of course, most western nations have socialism to turn to, but can socialism work in Singapore? Given the investor reliant economy we are?
I believe the plug gap measure of re-distributing our annual surpluses is a start, even though meagre the sum, it shows the administrations' readiness to utilize that option when need be.
U hve to understand that USA deficits are into billions of dollars for funding the Iraq war....whereas in Singapore, our reserves runs into hundreds of billions...
its a different picture altogether..
For the last 5 years, middleclass and the lowerclass nominal income is 1% increase..laughable but true...How come we are in this state in Singapore as one of the Asia dragon..think abt it...gahment open the door to any talents or untalents...to depress the salary...where else in the world where a elected gahment take care of foreigners interest first.
So god & the devil also gahment...
I dont think gahment will use annual surpluses..its not in their character...remember there is no free lunch unless you are a foreigner
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2.many xyz&%%4 PAP,LKY LHL in coffe shops and still appearOriginally posted by bigmouthjoe:Nothing we can do what. Say something wait kena jail or sue. But those stupid 66.6% very happy lah, so what to do.
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Haha....Originally posted by maurizio13:I got other suggestions.
Maybe we should:
1) ban people living in high-rise from hanging laundry out, so that my clothes won't get wet by their wet dripping clothes.
2) ban cigarettes because the smoke is hazardous to others and smokers litter butts all over the place
3) ban on alcohol, so that people won't be driving under the influence of alcohol, the roads will be safer, not to mention taxi drivers won't have to clean up the puke
4) ban the sale of permanent markers and spray paints, because alot of vandals use it to vandalise public walls and lifts
5) ban the sale of condoms, because couples litter ther park after using them
6) ban on speeding by putting a speed regulator in cars, so that cars can only travel at 50km/h, because speeding kills
7) ban the sale of knifes, because some people would use it to commit robbery and murder
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Nobody is asking the govt to use reserve to plug the gap between the rich and poor. You are the one.Originally posted by Quincey:Well, the govt has faced a whole lot of stinging criticism, which is no doubt healthy. However, what viable alternative or alternatives can critiques offer to this government? I guess what we need viable solutions if we want to offer criticisms. For example, the gap between the rich and the poor. Many are calling for the government to do more. As such, the government has decided to push GST up to 7 per cent to offset it's proposed social policies. Many lement that this measure would in effect render the middle and lower incomed segments of our population worst off. In opposition, many are calling for a whole array of alternative measures, some suggest that we should use our reserves to plug the gap; others reason that we should tax the rich and embrace western socialism; others say that we have to cut down our spending on other sectors. These are reasonable solutions, but are they viable in our nation-state? Plugging the gap with our reserves which is effectively property of the citizenry. Certainly it sounds convenient, but in the long run, how long can the reserve be used to plug the gap? Income gaps are here to stay, it's just a causal effect of our globalized world. Even the United States is facing a debate of such on it's own. Of course, most western nations have socialism to turn to, but can socialism work in Singapore? Given the investor reliant economy we are?
I believe the plug gap measure of re-distributing our annual surpluses is a start, even though meagre the sum, it shows the administrations' readiness to utilize that option when need be. -
*ROFLMAO*
I luv your satire! -
we are lucky till now....
can we still be lucky....hmmm.....
pap?? hmmm.....
*light bulb lits up*
*light bulb flickers and dies out*
praying ...praying...praying... -
PAP is lucky because singaporeans vote for them.
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I tell you, they are encouraging more migrants to come so that they will vote for them...because they're losing a lot of local supporters.Originally posted by bila_prem:PAP is lucky because singaporeans vote for them.
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Exactly. The PRs among my close circle of friends confided that they did not accept Singapore's invitation to become citizens because "Singapore citizenship is not worth very much".Originally posted by ShutterBug:I tell you, they are encouraging more migrants to come so that they will vote for them...because they're losing a lot of local supporters.
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U hve to understand that USA deficits are into billions of dollars for funding the Iraq war....whereas in Singapore, our reserves runs into hundreds of billions...
its a different picture altogether..
I think you have to consider though, that perhaps 90% of the cost of defence in SE Asia, and Europe, is footed by the USA. So we do not have to fund this through income tax.
(You didn't think all the visiting US navy ships coming into port, are calling in to do some shopping eh?
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Is this a code? I will not spend anytime trying to decode lah. Please speak in simple english lah... if you dunno english can use singlish also lah. I will try to understand what you are trying to say...Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.many xyz&%%4 PAP,LKY LHL in coffe shops and still appear
tmr?why?