Singaporeans, please say NO to dual citizenship!
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We already have Malaysians who are PRs in Singapore being called up for National Service by both countries.
If there is a war, not only with Malaysia, but with any other country, whose side should he be on?
It defeat the whole purpose of National Service.
If there is going to be dual citizenship, then let's scrap NS!! -
Is PR dual citizenship?
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of cos is support the 1st country ur in la.
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Why not? If i have opportunity to be a PR in another country, i wouldn't miss the deal.
Because i don't intend to live in Singapore for the rest of my life.
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this is interesting I never knew malaysia with singapore PR being call up from both end.
so I guess at the end of the day it fall on racial line. -
When PRs dun need to serve NS
Kao peh unfair, enjoy the benefits but no need to serve NS
When PRs need to serve NS Still kao peh -
dual citizenship has never been allowed in singapore. if you hold a singapore passport you must give up your foreign one and if u take up citizenship in another country you're no longer allowed to keep your singapore passport.
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Third time I come across this .Originally posted by laurence82:Is PR dual citizenship?
PR is a visa on your country of citizenship passport. Surrender your Singaporean passport - you immediately become stateless and an illegal immigrant .
You have to take up citizenship of the country to acquire their passport . -
It is recognised for the purpose of extracting NS men though. That is to prevent those who are males above 18 and wants to escape NS from totally escaping it by acquiring another citizenship.Originally posted by vito_corleone:dual citizenship has never been allowed in singapore. if you hold a singapore passport you must give up your foreign one and if u take up citizenship in another country you're no longer allowed to keep your singapore passport. -
Dual citizenship is good . Gives you an advantage over the foreign talents.Originally posted by PoRen:We already have Malaysians who are PRs in Singapore being called up for National Service by both countries.
If there is a war, not only with Malaysia, but with any other country, whose side should he be on?
It defeat the whole purpose of National Service.
If there is going to be dual citizenship, then let's scrap NS!!
The way I see it :Singapore is already having a wage war and a job war between locals and foreigners. Casualties already happened. -
As long as everyone is keeping their silence and suffering in silence, this place will continue its gradual rot under PAP's bright idea policies, which are Money Centric, and not People Centric.
As for myself, I couldn't care less anymore... I'm moving out.
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they will all go to the demilitarized zone.
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singapore government does not allow people to have dual citizenship, only one type of citizenship, either u become singaporean or malaysian.
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1.Is your real topics is SCRAP NS?Originally posted by PoRen:We already have Malaysians who are PRs in Singapore being called up for National Service by both countries.
If there is a war, not only with Malaysia, but with any other country, whose side should he be on?
It defeat the whole purpose of National Service.
If there is going to be dual citizenship, then let's scrap NS!!
U say NO to dual citizenship and say''If there is going to be dual citizenship, then let's scrap NS!!''.
I dunt understand.
No worry if u want scrap NS.
u wont be detained in Whitely Rd and guarded by Gurka!!
2.Tell us which country is People Centric and the good and bad of it!!Originally posted by ShutterBug:As long as everyone is keeping their silence and suffering in silence, this place will continue its gradual rot under PAP's bright idea policies, which are Money Centric, and not People Centric.
As for myself, I couldn't care less anymore... I'm moving out. -
dunch have la. where got dual? PR is not.
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In Korea, the transport system is owned by the government not for profit. Their transport system is way more advance than Singapore's.Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.Tell us which country is People Centric and the good and bad of it!!
In Taiwan, their Electric company are also government owned and has not raised prices for 26 years. The cost of electricity is half of Singapore -
here, everything is 'subsidised'.......singapore style........here, all things are govt-centric.......Originally posted by kilua:In Korea, the transport system is owned by the government not for profit. Their transport system is way more advance than Singapore's.
In Taiwan, their Electric company are also government owned and has not raised prices for 26 years. The cost of electricity is half of Singapore -
They allowed but only so far one group onlyOriginally posted by allentyb:singapore government does not allow people to have dual citizenship, only one type of citizenship, either u become singaporean or malaysian.
the 1997 HK holder UK passport and same time Singapore passport.
quite a handfull of them, do nnot know hohw many hundred -
I won't say which country, but I believe as is quite avident that we lack basic Rights here..Originally posted by lionnoisy:2.Tell us which country is People Centric and the good and bad of it!!
..a certain 'Freedom' many of us yearn for - espcecially among the young and those who still hold dreams... -
They allowed but only so far one group only
hmmmmm
the 1997 HK holder UK passport and same time Singapore passport.
quite a handfull of them, do nnot know hohw many hundred -
Din you guys read this?
Singapore's birth trend outlook remains dismal: sociologist
By Julia Ng, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 07 February 2007 2200 hrs
SINGAPORE: About 600 more babies were born last year.
Preliminary birth figures from the birth registry at Immigration and Checkpoints Authority put the number of babies born in 2006 at 38,232.
But a sociologist said the marginal increase in newborns would do little to lift Singapore's total fertility rate from its record low of 1.24 in 2004.
Besides aggressive immigration policies, bolder changes in family policies are needed to help Singapore replace its rapidly ageing and dwindling population.
Even with 600 more babies born in 2006 than the previous year, Singapore's total fertility rate, which has hovered around the all-time low of 1.24 for the last two years, is likely to remain one of the world's lowest.
The Total Fertility Rate is the lowest among Singapore Chinese women, just 1.08 babies per resident female in 2005.
To grow the Singapore population, the government ramped up its foreign talent programme last year to encourage talented people to migrate to Singapore.
Dr Angelique Chan, Sociologist, National University of Singapore, said: "I think dual citizenship is something we should consider in the Singapore context, particularly if we're interested in maintaining the numbers in the Singapore population."
But she added that immigration is only a short-term solution. And in the long run, Singapore needs to look at policies that enable families to grow and policies which help families to better balance work with family life.
Countries like France have shown that family-friendly policies like a 40-week paid maternity leave for the third child, cheap childcare and free nurseries go a long way in reversing falling birth rates.
On top of free public transport, grants, allowances and tax breaks – which increase substantially after the third child – the French government recently raised its special allowance to pay mothers 1,000 euros a month if they give up work that year to have their third child.
French women now have an average of two children each, compared with the European average of 1.5.
Since its introduction in 2001 and enhancement in 2004, Singapore's Baby Bonus scheme has had very modest success.
"I think Singapore has reached a point where it has a lot of economic success and now it has some surplus, and it's time to start thinking about the more human element," said Dr Chan.
So will the Year of the Pig bring on fatter Baby Bonuses?
Singapore couples will not have to wait long to find out as Budget Day, February 15, approaches. - CNA/so -
Sooner or later the foreign talent will also face the same problems that Singaporeans face, not have kids and soon they will also contribute to the raising aging population...
The government is not tackling the problem at the roots.
Its just like a farmer who plants more crops when his crops are withering instead of finding out why the crops are dying and how future crops can avoid the same fate... -
Do they really think they deserve the kind of pay they get to come up with schemes like the FT schemes?
It's like they are getting paid to come up with more problems. ie. the locals versus FT in job vacancies. -
When this happens they can sell their property here in Singapore and live a better life in their home country.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Sooner or later the foreign talent will also face the same problems that Singaporeans face, not have kids and soon they will also contribute to the raising aging population...
The government is not tackling the problem at the roots.
Its just like a farmer who plants more crops when his crops are withering instead of finding out why the crops are dying and how future crops can avoid the same fate...
This does not happen to the old folks who have lost their jobs to these "Talents" -
Originally posted by NotFromVenus:When this happens they can sell their property here in Singapore and live a better life in their home country.
This does not happen to the old folks who have lost their jobs to these "Talents"
And these old folks might need to pick up cardboards and pay 2% more GST because they don't know how to apply for government aids...