Mahathir does it again, BIG TIME ! ...
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I've always thought he wasn't the brightest bulb in the box ... but I never imagined he's a lunatic ....
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) -- Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad urged Iraqi insurgents on Wednesday to make the United States "pay a very high price" for its occupation of Iraq.
In his most provocative public remarks on the Iraq war yet, Mahathir said he wanted to "congratulate the Iraqi resistance" for successfully turning public opinion against U.S. President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
"Make sure that the Americans will pay a very high price for their adventure," Mahathir said at an international anti-war conference in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia's largest city.
"Unfortunately, you may have to kill a lot of Americans. When the coffins go back, when the body bags are carried back to America, it will help the Americans to change their minds," Mahathir said to loud applause from 1,500 activists.
Mahathir, long known for his strident criticism of Western countries, said American soldiers will go to Iraq "and many of them are going to die. They are going to go back in their coffins."
Mahathir remains a respected figure in the Islamic world following his retirement in October 2003 after 22 years in power. He criticized Bush for sending troops to Iraq while remaining safely behind in Washington.
"If President Bush is willing to lead his army, but from the front, then by all means let's all go to war," he said. "But since he's not going to do that, I think we should strive with all our might to spread the new faith, the new belief that war is not an option, war is not a way of settling any dispute."
Mahathir spoke after launching a tribunal that plans to hold trials based on complaints by Iraqis and Palestinians against world leaders including Bush, Blair, Australian Prime Minister John Howard and Israeli ex-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, which opened with a preliminary meeting, does not have the legal authority of an international organization and cannot impose penalties, but its main aim is to condemn leaders in history books, Mahathir said.
"We would like to hang them the way they hanged Saddam Hussein, but I'm afraid we're not going to have that pleasure," Mahathir said. "But there are other ways of making life miserable for them."
The nine-member tribunal is tasked with hearing cases recommended to it by a separate commission chaired by Mahathir. On Wednesday, the commission received its first petition signed by 10 people who said they were victims of crimes against humanity in Iraq and the Palestinian territories.
Most of the tribunal's members are Malaysian legal experts and former judges, but it plans to add more foreign members. It is not clear how long the commission will investigate the petition before the tribunal starts working.
for a head of state, even a former one, to say these kind of drivel goes way beyond embarrassing ...
it just goes to show that despite the petronas towers, despite proton and all that, our friendly neighbour up north remains a banana republic ... it's just a facade of first world modernity, underneath all that the village politicians still hold sway ....
now I can really appreciate why I've never met a Malaysian student overseas that wants to return to their home country ... -
hmm.. he's advocating violence in another country..
doesn't that make him as bad as those he railed against, or even worse?
they are paying with their blood for the violence, while he is sitting a million miles away, egging them on...
maybe he needs a lobotomy
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My god! He's getting more and more senile...
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Please don't judge the people of msia as the whole just based on one megalomaniac's views. I think the msian students you met, probably you can count the number just using one hand. You are not msian, so you don know, full stop.Originally posted by Fatum:I've always thought he wasn't the brightest bulb in the box ... but I never imagined he's a lunatic ....
for a head of state, even a former one, to say these kind of drivel goes way beyond embarrassing ...
it just goes to show that despite the petronas towers, despite proton and all that, our friendly neighbour up north remains a banana republic ... it's just a facade of first world modernity, underneath all that the village politicians still hold sway ....
now I can really appreciate why I've never met a Malaysian student overseas that wants to return to their home country ... -
perhaps you'd like to take a closer reading of what I have written, I said the country is screwed because of the politicians that they have ... if you have a chip on your shoulder because you're one that wants to go home, fine, but you don't know me either, so don't be so presumptous about things ...Originally posted by saffron60:Please don't judge the people of msia as the whole just based on one megalomaniac's views. I think the msian students you met, probably you can count the number just using one hand. You are not msian, so you don know, full stop. -
Eh..hello, excuse me, you said:Originally posted by Fatum:perhaps you'd like to take a closer reading of what I have written, I said the country is screwed because of the politicians that they have ... if you have a chip on your shoulder because you're one that wants to go home, fine, but you don't know me either, so don't be so presumptous about things ...
our friendly neighbour up north remains a banana republic ... it's just a facade of first world modernity,
and you also said:
now I can really appreciate why I've never met a Malaysian student overseas that wants to return to their home country ...
I don't think all msian students are that easily intimidated by 'village politicians'. So, you are making assumptions about msians as well. So am i right? You can count the number of msian students that you know personally using one hand, or at the most, two hands? -
Anyway, your topic is redundant; already got two threads with the same topic. Please choose more carefully next time.
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Originally posted by saffron60:
if you're speaking for yourself, fine, good for you, if you're not one who's "easily intimidated " by village politicians, bravo ! .. good for you too ! ... if your chip on your shoulder doesn't like what I've said, well, that's too bad ! ...
Eh..hello, excuse me, you said:
[b]our friendly neighbour up north remains a banana republic ... it's just a facade of first world modernity,
and you also said:
now I can really appreciate why I've never met a Malaysian student overseas that wants to return to their home country ...
I don't think all msian students are that easily intimidated by 'village politicians'. So, you are making assumptions about msians as well. So am i right? You can count the number of msian students that you know personally using one hand, or at the most, two hands?
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am I making assumptions, perhaps I am, based on the people I know here, but give me the magic number then, ... a hundred, a thousand, or do I have to know everyone in malaysia before I can make my own judgement ? ... what you've said starting to sound silly to you ? ...
if you don't like what you read here kid, then learn to suck it up, you're entitled to your ideas, so am I ... -
The pot calling the kettle black. Or should I say charcoal?
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do u actually think that the current malaysian politician thinks or cares about wat mahatir says or do?
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oh well ... may as well let that chip on shoulders chap have a field day ...Originally posted by 4getmenot:do u actually think that the current malaysian politician thinks or cares about wat mahatir says or do?
take a look here ...
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=223520
ironic isn't it ? ..... and those are "current" politicians there ... -
i am a malaysian scholar overseas, and I still come back lehhh...
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I know rainee, I thought about you before I wrote what I did ... but you were on bond weren't you ? ... I remember you asking for opinions of what to do before you came back, eh ...Originally posted by rainee:i am a malaysian scholar overseas, and I still come back lehhh... 
nothing against you people, really ... whatever that chip on shoulders chap may think ... -
Well, George Bush himself is a village idiot. Doesn't the TS know it?
Those insurgents don't need a Mahathir to egg them on. They already have an Ahmedinejad on their doorstep. -
Well, Mahathir knows he cannot say all those things whilst in office. Thats how angry he feels against the west. And since he is out of office, let him say what he thinks its the truth.
At least he is not a "yes man" guy... -
That's the only good point he has. Very few people have backbones.Originally posted by mhcampboy:At least he is not a "yes man" guy...
Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroder did, but they one has gone into the history books whie another may follow suit. -
perhaps .... while he tries to make an adik of the little red dot to his south ....Originally posted by mhcampboy:Well, Mahathir knows he cannot say all those things whilst in office. Thats how angry he feels against the west. And since he is out of office, let him say what he thinks its the truth.
At least he is not a "yes man" guy... -
Actually I wouldnt agree to the that part about him being not a yes man would be something to applaud for
Standing up to somebody and being simply barking mad is two different thing
I would rather, refer that to likes of the French and German leadership, who foresee the trouble in Iraq and refused to participate in that war -
What about Jose Zapatero of Spain who recalled his troops from the Middle East after winning the elections? That is brave of him to admit his predecessor was wrong in supporting legalised terror.Originally posted by laurence82:Actually I wouldnt agree to the that part about him being not a yes man would be something to applaud for
Standing up to somebody and being simply barking mad is two different thing
I would rather, refer that to likes of the French and German leadership, who foresee the trouble in Iraq and refused to participate in that war -
That's the protential nobel peace prize winner for you.
Will there be peace if he win the prize? -
nope! he will get few million dollars though.Originally posted by Hogzilla:That's the protential nobel peace prize winner for you.
Will there be peace if he win the prize? -
EhhhhhOriginally posted by mhcampboy:nope! he will get few million dollars though.
Mmmmm
You sure a few millions? I thought only like USD400,000?
I can't remember where I saw it. I'm pretty positive that the winner gets that amount of $$. -
Mahathir is very crafty.
He makes such rethorics to protect his country.
Malaysia is wide open, and an unprepared target.
The global terrorists will not target Malaysia.
Terrorists the world over like Mahathir. -
My, my, you seem to be obsessed with the chip on your shoulder, just 'cos you have one, you don't have to accuse everyone else on having one. What a lame excuse.Originally posted by Fatum:if you're speaking for yourself, fine, good for you, if you're not one who's "easily intimidated " by village politicians, bravo ! .. good for you too ! ... if your chip on your shoulder doesn't like what I've said, well, that's too bad ! ...
am I making assumptions, perhaps I am, based on the people I know here, but give me the magic number then, ... a hundred, a thousand, or do I have to know everyone in malaysia before I can make my own judgement ? ... what you've said starting to sound silly to you ? ...
if you don't like what you read here kid, then learn to suck it up, you're entitled to your ideas, so am I ...
The magic no? Well, why don't you tell me, you can count with both hands right? Your judgement is based on probably a teeny tiny no of people, so it is a very skewed judgement; a highly debatable and easily refuted one. -
Oh he may be a rabid ass, but I must admit he has some success in deflecting the attention of the Hanbalists and Wahhabis away from his government and nation, which these die-hard adherents may deem as unIslamic, or worse still, dar-al-HarbOriginally posted by mancha:Mahathir is very crafty.
He makes such rethorics to protect his country.
Malaysia is wide open, and an unprepared target.
The global terrorists will not target Malaysia.
Terrorists the world over like Mahathir.